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Posted: 10/9/2007 10:48:11 AM EDT

Want to see one more way that Hillary will screw us??

www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8S5R35O0&show_article=1

Clinton Proposes 401(k)s, Matching Funds

Oct 9 12:49 PM US/Eastern
By NEDRA PICKLER
Associated Press Writer

WEBSTER CITY, Iowa (AP) - Every citizen could get a 401(k) retirement account and up to $1,000 in annual matching funds from the government under a plan offered Tuesday by Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton.

At a cost of $20 billion-$25 billion a year, the plan is Clinton's largest domestic proposal other than her plan for universal health insurance. The New York senator said it would be paid for by taxing estates worth more than $7 million per couple and would help narrow the gap between the rich and those who don't have enough savings for retirement.

At the same time, Clinton said she has given up another idea for a savings incentive—giving every baby born in the United States a $5,000 account to one day pay for college or a first home.

She made that suggestion last month before the Congressional Black Caucus, saying it was just an idea and not a policy proposal. The idea was criticized by Republicans, and she told The Wall Street Journal in an interview published Tuesday that it's off the table.

The campaign of her Democratic rival John Edwards suggested it was an example of Clinton setting her positions by polls. "Apparently, new polling data seems to have pressured the Clinton campaign to throw out the baby bond with the bathwater," said Edwards spokesman Chris Kofinis.

As for the retirement accounts, Clinton said during a campaign stop in small-town central Iowa, "They will begin to bring down this inequality that is eating away at our social contract." She said, "This is a major commitment to how I believe we can begin to right the balance again."

She said that for every $7 million estate that gets taxed, at least 5,000 families would receive the matching funds.

Clinton said she wants to create "American Retirement Accounts" in which everyone could put up to $5,000 annually in a 401(k) plan. The federal government would provide a tax cut to match 100 percent of the first $1,000 for anyone who makes less than $60,000 a year and 50 percent of the first $1,000 for those who make $60,000-$100,000.

She said she would encourage employers to have direct deposit from paychecks into the accounts.

Clinton said less than half the families in the United States have retirement savings accounts and those who have them aren't saving enough. She said she often meets people working even into their early 80s because they don't have enough savings.

"We don't have much of a nest egg to fall back on," she said.

Although the money would be intended mainly for retirement, she said people should also be able to use the savings to buy a house or pay for college and the government should consider letting workers use a portion for hard times like an illness or accident.

Clinton said the accounts should not be used to replace any part of Social Security and that she is committed to addressing the long-term challenges of that program.

"We have to fight and finally bury the idea of privatizing Social Security," she said.

What right does she or the .gov have to take money from one person, and give it to another???????

Then they are going to decide when and when not to LET people use their money????

This woman will destroy America as we know it.

Posted: 10/9/2007 10:49:40 AM EDT

[#1]

Free Candy!!!

Posted: 10/9/2007 10:49:57 AM EDT

[#2]

5 grand for every baby born....a 401 K and 1 grand for everybody too!

Awesome!

I deserve free money!!

Somebody hand me a bag....I'm gonna puke.

ETA -- Why is it that when conservatives say people should be saving for their retirement in the private sector they are big meanies who want to starve old people, but when Hillary proposes handing everyone a private sector retirement account with a 1K contribution from the .gov it is compassionate and revolutionary?

I don't get it.

Posted: 10/9/2007 10:50:45 AM EDT

[#3]

Hey its standard marxism. Its all part of the collective. How many times has she said that she is taking from the wealthy to distribute it to all. Thats marxism, pure and simple. That is why it takes a village to raise a child in her world. Get used to it. She has never attempted to hide this.

Posted: 10/9/2007 10:50:48 AM EDT

[#4]

I want all my social security money I have paid over the years back in cash, you stupid bitch.

Posted: 10/9/2007 10:52:05 AM EDT

[#5]

would help narrow the gap between the rich and those who don't have enough savings for retirement.

So if you have enough savings for retirement, you weren't smart, or taking the long view, or well prepared, you are "rich". And if you don't you are "poor" and need help from the .gov? It's not about the haves and have nots, it's about who was smart enough to secure their retirement. I know plenty of people who make very little but save/invest a lot. Nothing like being punished for good financial discipline.

Posted: 10/9/2007 10:52:24 AM EDT

[#6]

The communist in her is flowing out now...there is now no doubt about who she is. People that can't see this for a fact are blinded dipsheeps.

HH

Posted: 10/9/2007 10:52:32 AM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
I want all my social security money I have paid over the years back in cash, you stupid bitch.

Or, here's an idea....

Don't tax us so @$&#*&! much to make it easier for people to provide for their own retirement.

What a concept!!!

Posted: 10/9/2007 10:52:36 AM EDT

[#8]

Good gawd this is lunacy!

Posted: 10/9/2007 10:53:21 AM EDT

[#9]

So I get a grand per year in matching funds for mine too right? right?

Or do I just get to pay for other people?

Posted: 10/9/2007 10:54:08 AM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
The communist in her is flowing out now...there is now no doubt about who she is. People that can't see this for a fact are blinded dipsheeps.

HH

Voters will need to be reminded of these statements next summer when she is running solidly to the center and making no mention of her Socialist ideals.

Posted: 10/9/2007 10:54:38 AM EDT

[#11]

I thought buying votes was illegal............guess I was wrong.

Posted: 10/9/2007 10:56:09 AM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
The communist in her is flowing out now...there is now no doubt about who she is. People that can't see this for a fact are blinded dipsheeps.

HH

No doubt that she is enjoying it. Probably making her wet.

Posted: 10/9/2007 10:56:44 AM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
No doubt that she is enjoying it. Probably making her wet.

Well THERE'S a mental picture guaranteed to scar for life....

Posted: 10/9/2007 10:56:58 AM EDT

[#14]

She wants us to pay ourselves through a government ripof scheme that takes a huge percentage and gives us back pennies. Where do I sign up?

Posted: 10/9/2007 10:57:12 AM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The communist in her is flowing out now...there is now no doubt about who she is. People that can't see this for a fact are blinded dipsheeps.

HH

Voters will need to be reminded of these statements next summer when she is running solidly to the center and making no mention of her Socialist ideals.

but what is wrong with communism? it's a cool buzzword... che is cool and hip... everyone loves it!
socialism wins you the hearts and votes of the poor across the country... helping the poor is cool and hip... especially for the 18-30 y/o voters who have never worked for anything in their lives and are living off of mommy and daddy and/or trust funds...

being a ~~liberal democrat~~ COMMUNIST is cool when you don't have to work a 9-5 job and pay bills...

Posted: 10/9/2007 10:58:00 AM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
No doubt that she is enjoying it. Probably making her wet.

Well THERE'S a mental picture guaranteed to scar for life....

She probably masturbates to a poster of Lenin.

Posted: 10/9/2007 10:59:06 AM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
She probably masturbates to a poster of Lenin.

Dude....she could have a vibrator with Stalin's face on it, but I don't really want to see "Hillary" and "masturbates" in the same sentence because I don't feel like cleaning used tuna salad off of my keyboard....

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:00:09 AM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
She probably masturbates to a poster of Lenin.

Dude....she could have a vibrator with Stalin's face on it, but I don't really want to see "Hillary" and "masturbates" in the same sentence because I don't feel like cleaning used tuna salad off of my keyboard....

"tuna salad" is what you call it?

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:01:15 AM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:
"tuna salad" is what you call it?

Tuna salad was my lunch, you pervert.

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:02:02 AM EDT

[#20]

height=8

I want all my social security money I have paid over the years back in cash, you stupid bitch

Cripes, I'd be satisfied with a deal whereby they can keep all my "contributions" made since the mid-1980's and they just leave me the hell alone for the rest of my life. I won't come looking for money from Uncle Sugar when I'm a geezer and they get to pocket that generous death benefit when I croak.

Win-win. Think they'll go for it? hinking.gif

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:02:21 AM EDT

[#21]

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:02:48 AM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:

would help narrow the gap between the rich and those who don't have enough savings for retirement.

So if you have enough savings for retirement, you weren't smart, or taking the long view, or well prepared, you are "rich". And if you don't you are "poor" and need help from the .gov? It's not about the haves and have nots, it's about who was smart enough to secure their retirement. I know plenty of people who make very little but save/invest a lot. Nothing like being punished for good financial discipline.

I had my first 401k when i was working a $12.00 an hour job. I'm rich!

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:02:53 AM EDT

[#23]

She's about a stupid fucking cunt...

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:06:23 AM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
No doubt that she is enjoying it. Probably making her wet.

Well THERE'S a mental picture guaranteed to scar for life....

She probably masturbates to a poster of Lenin.

This is something I made a couple months ago. Coincidence? No fucking way. You can't hide your true color(s) - especially when the color is RED.

The OP subject of this thread made me literally physically sick to my stomach. I already knew there was no depth to which this fucking bitch would not step to steal the presidency, but seeing proved with such glaring audacity hit me like a punch in the gut.

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:06:55 AM EDT

[#25]

And dont say someone didnt warn you.

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=625618

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:07:15 AM EDT

[#26]

I want a car!

And a new water heater! When is a candidate finally going to address a federal program to pay for the burdens of home maintenance?

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:09:13 AM EDT

[#27]

If you want to really toss your cookies, picture a hillary fur burger sandwich. Or worse picture Hitlary going brillo on brillo until the sparks fly with her significant other sex partner (also female) with bubba looking on like a dumb ass fifth wheel.. Now you know why Bill likes to play with wet cigars.

Are you ready to go ralph arghhhhhhhhghghgghghgh and really toss lunch.

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:10:13 AM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:
--------snip-------------

Dude, take that somewhere else.

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:10:29 AM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:
No doubt that she is enjoying it. Probably making her wet.

Well THERE'S a mental picture guaranteed to scar for life....

She probably masturbates to a poster of Lenin.

This is something I made a couple months ago. Coincidence? No fucking way. You can't hide your true color(s) - especially when the color is RED.

i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/justth1nk/thisisnotacoincidence.jpg

The OP subject of this thread made me literally physically sick to my stomach. I already knew there was no depth to which this fucking bitch would not step to steal the presidency, but seeing proved with such glaring audacity hit me like a punch in the gut.

Look! They're pointing at my wallet!!!!

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:12:30 AM EDT

[#30]

I guess I should get a move on getting my house in Italy ready to live in.

Christ, if this bitch gets elected, it'll make the "stipend" in Italy seem like a bargain.

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:14:13 AM EDT

[#31]

Is it safe to move to antartica yet?

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:19:26 AM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:
She's about a stupid fucking cunt...

Well said, Sir.

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:19:41 AM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:
I want a car!

And a new water heater! When is a candidate finally going to address a federal program to pay for the burdens of home maintenance?

The beast will solve your home maint issues by taking your house and putting you in soviet style apartment buildings. Or a re-education camp if you are really bad.

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:22:10 AM EDT

[#34]

100% Stalin approved.

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:22:59 AM EDT

[#35]

We are way beyond a chicken in every pot. SHOW ME DA MONEY BITCH!

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:23:11 AM EDT

[#36]

Silver lining.

Hillary might be the way to get a percentage of Social Security moved to private savings.

I would love to see 1% of the SS taxed go into private bonds & 1% into private stocks.

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:23:22 AM EDT

[#37]

So I wonder if my company will continue putting $2400 per year on my 401K? I wonder if they will consider anything over th e $1000 taxable.

I wonder why I even work, went to college, paid off my loans..........

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:25:44 AM EDT

[#38]

If we didn't have communists in the US, talk like that would be complete snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:26:53 AM EDT

[#39]

Although the money would be intended mainly for retirement, she said people should also be able to use the savings ~~to buy a house or pay for college~~ and the government should consider letting workers use a portion for hard times like an illness or accident.

Don't we already have a "program" for that. Oh what's that called, ummm, ummm, O yeah SOCIAL SECURITY. Isn't that why those asshole take money out of every check?

Fuck them.

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:30:10 AM EDT

[#40]

This bitch is hell bent on spending us into the ground. Spending has sucked under Bush, but I think she's trying to outdo him.

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:35:06 AM EDT

[#41]

I am sure her and Bill are worth more than $7 mill.

I am also sure if this came to pass there would be a 'special exemption' for the Clintons buried in fine print in the law.

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:36:18 AM EDT

[#42]

Holy shit

What's next? Free cars? Free groceries?

Bwahahaha, this crazy loon is so far off her rocker even I never expected her to do this.

The truly scary part is that she'll win the nomination hands down.

I never thought American politics would get to be such a carnival atmosphere that she'd brazenly try to win by giving away magical free shit.

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:50:20 AM EDT

[#43]

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:52:05 AM EDT

[#44]

Hi, I am Hillary Clinton, And I am prepared yo give you $1000 in 401k funds AND $5000 for every baby you pop out, paid for BY OTHER PEOPLE if you VOTE FOR ME!!!

Yes, I will directly give you money for your vote.

And it will only cost the people who actually work and pay taxes. Your welfare checks will not be touched.

TXL

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:56:51 AM EDT

[#45]

Quoted:
www.drudgereport.com/hrch.jpg

Can we get a house to drop on her, too?

HH

Posted: 10/9/2007 11:57:29 AM EDT

[#46]

And all she wants in return is to feast on your first born....

Posted: 10/9/2007 12:00:15 PM EDT

[#47]

well there's the bread. what's her plan for the circuses?

Posted: 10/9/2007 12:04:45 PM EDT

[#48]

I'm not *entirely* against it. It does need some major rework though.

As I recall, Bush proposed a similar 401k thing a few years ago. Remember privatized retirement accounts? Will this be privatized as well? I'm all for having privatized retirement accounts but I dont think the .gov needs to be funding it either.

Posted: 10/9/2007 12:15:53 PM EDT

[#49]

Ronald Reagan is a guy who really "got it". Som of his quotes:

"the 9 scariest words in the English language are; “I’m from the government and I’m here to help.” "

"Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. "

"We can't help everyone, but everyone can help someone.
Ronald Reagan"

Posted: 10/9/2007 12:21:02 PM EDT

[#50]

Man, this is awesome news !!!

I can't wait to vote ...

for someone other than her.

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