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Posted: 12/25/2003 6:09:26 PM EDT
www.Drudgereport.com is reporting that the Washington Post is to print 12/26 that Air France airliner was to be hijacked from Paris to LA by trained pilot and others and crashed into Las Vegas.  Plot foiled when flights cancelled.

Text of his headline:

Some passengers boarding Air France flight from Paris to Los Angeles 'intended to hijack it and crash land in Las Vegas', the WASHINGTON POST is planning to report in Page One leads on Friday, sources tell DRUDGE... officials said they 'remain suspicious about some passengers who did not show up at the airport to claim their seats on the ultimately aborted Flight 68 from Paris to Los Angeles. One of those who did not appear for the Christmas Eve flight apparently is a trained pilot'... Developing...

Mods: if this is a clone please kill it, thanks.

Link Posted: 12/25/2003 6:19:02 PM EDT
People can say what they want about the French, and it may be true, however they do have a excellent intelligence agency.
Link Posted: 12/25/2003 6:30:02 PM EDT
Yep, a 747 plowed down the hotel strip in Vegas would kill thousands.

Hopefully it will never happen.
Link Posted: 12/25/2003 6:39:19 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/25/2003 6:46:52 PM EDT
This is new as everything I have heard so far indicates that our intelligence guys believe that Los Angeles was the target.

Of course, we're only getting drips and drabs of information along with what is probably a healthy amount of speculation/BS on the part of the press.  I suspect that the true story won't be released anytime soon.  If it's true that this was the real thing, those shitstains in al-Qaeda are going to be very shocked.  I'd lead them to believe that the info came from an insider. [:D]  After that, you just sit back and watch them feed on themselves trying to ferret out the traitor.  Unless, of course, the info did come from a mole, in which case, you credit the CIA's Magic 8-Ball.

Oh yes, fuck the French.
Link Posted: 12/25/2003 6:57:01 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Cableman:
Yep, a 747 plowed down the hotel strip in Vegas would kill thousands.

Hopefully it will never happen.
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I think I saw that movie.  Con Air.  Nick Cage, John Malkovich.  

Oh, yes, and F*** the French.  
Link Posted: 12/25/2003 6:58:32 PM EDT
It was our guys...

The State Dept rang up the Froggies and asked that the flights-in-question be scrubbed...

Considering the response if a hijacking occurred, (or the prospect that we would simply refuse said flights permission to enter US airspace (not a fun scenario for Air France: You sit through a trans-Atlantic flight to LA only to have the USAF insist on escorting you to eastern Canada), the French really had no choice...
Link Posted: 12/25/2003 7:00:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:
Unless, of course, the info did come from a mole, in which case, you credit the CIA's Magic 8-Ball.
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'Electronic Intercepts revealed that...'

Link Posted: 12/25/2003 7:02:44 PM EDT

Fuck the French.
Link Posted: 12/25/2003 7:04:09 PM EDT
Thats funny, I forgot about Con Air.  That's a great movie!
Link Posted: 12/25/2003 7:11:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/25/2003 7:12:00 PM EDT by Johnny_Reno]
Originally Posted By Cableman:
Thats funny, I forgot about Con Air.  That's a great movie!
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Ahem...psssst...[size=1]the French[/size=1]...
Link Posted: 12/25/2003 7:15:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/25/2003 7:16:42 PM EDT by Cableman]
Well the French,

They eat frogs, they carry white flags with them everywhere they go.  They put antifreeze in their wine and they smell.  They also eat rotten cheese and curse a lot.

Basically they suck.
Link Posted: 12/25/2003 7:24:25 PM EDT
Since this thread seems to have been HIJACKED itsself, I have no choice but to say...

Link Posted: 12/25/2003 7:33:47 PM EDT
Not with a stolen schlong, I wouldn't!

Intel is wonderful when it's in time!

Link Posted: 12/25/2003 7:33:58 PM EDT
Oh yes, definitely fuck the french...


Link Posted: 12/25/2003 7:34:29 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/25/2003 7:40:55 PM EDT
Fuque` the French.
Link Posted: 12/25/2003 7:47:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By KY-Bob:
Oh yes, definitely fuck the french...

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here here [NI]
Link Posted: 12/25/2003 8:40:48 PM EDT
I wonder if the French now realize that opposing America, coddling Arabs and terrorists and condemning Israel scores them no brownie points with psychopaths like al-Qaeda. Time to get with the team for the big win, France.  You're part of the West and the leader of the West is the United States.  I get so furious with the French and their fucking attitude problem. I hope they now see they're targets as well.
Link Posted: 12/26/2003 5:11:40 AM EDT
I felt the need to add something of value here:


Link Posted: 12/26/2003 5:50:22 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/26/2003 6:17:49 AM EDT

saying FTF makes you a better Ameican!
Link Posted: 12/26/2003 7:14:34 AM EDT
I have no kind regards for the French but they do have one incentive here.  Can you imagine how this country will feel IF the next terrorist use of an airplane in an attack on US was on a flight, or flights, originating from France?  I doubt that even ole Chirac would want to see that happen.
Link Posted: 12/26/2003 7:30:31 AM EDT
I concur......Focke zee frech.
Link Posted: 12/26/2003 8:04:39 AM EDT
No arrests?

Smells like bs, sounds like bs, feels like bs.

Anyone care to taste it?

- LS
Link Posted: 12/26/2003 5:10:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/26/2003 5:12:35 PM EDT by Energizer]
Originally Posted By giacutter:
One of those who did not appear for the Christmas Eve flight apparently is a trained pilot'...
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I am a bit confused on this intel: 1. trained pilots aren't allowed to fly as passengers without being labeled as hijackers? 2. If some people didn't show, and one of them happened to be a trained pilot, why would they cancel the flight when these supposed hijackers never boarded? There was no threat! Some people miss flights unintentionally or are delayed elsewhere...
Link Posted: 12/26/2003 5:23:20 PM EDT
Sadly, al-Queda may have identified a weakness here.

A commercial jet full of Frenchmen is likely to docility accept the hijacking of their flight.

That plain and simply isn’t going to happen on a plane full of Americans.
Link Posted: 12/26/2003 5:25:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/26/2003 5:26:45 PM EDT by ArmdLbrl]
Originally Posted By longshot_va:
No arrests?

Smells like bs, sounds like bs, feels like bs.

Anyone care to taste it?

- LS
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There were no arrests because there were not supposed to be any announcements that the flights were cancelled. Someone in the French Goverment or Air France leaked it to the media. It was on the cable news outlets about a hour before the first flight was to have boarded.
Link Posted: 12/26/2003 5:29:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl:
There were no arrests because there were not supposed to be any announcements that the flights were cancelled. Someone in the French Goverment or Air France leaked it to the media. It was on the cable news outlets about a hour before the first flight was to have boarded.
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This explains the no-shows... Stupid French messed up the mouse trap, eh?
Link Posted: 12/26/2003 5:58:41 PM EDT
I have an old French Battle rifle...

never been fired and only dropped once!

Link Posted: 12/26/2003 6:02:06 PM EDT
Here it is, from the usually anti-American LA Times no less

By Josh Meyer and Sebastian Rotella
Los Angeles Times
Originally published December 26, 2003

WASHINGTON - U.S. concerns about terrorist plots to hijack overseas flights headed for the United States remained intense on Christmas Day, officials said, even as French authorities reported that they had found no evidence that al-Qaida operatives had planned to commandeer an Air France jetliner headed for Los Angeles.

U.S. intelligence officials said they continued to receive current and credible intelligence indicating that such an attack could be in the works - possibly a series of coordinated hijackings - and that al-Qaida operatives could be targeting any number of overseas cities from which to launch such operations.

Some of the information - much of it gleaned from electronic intercepts and human sources - indicate that terrorists are interested in using commercial or cargo jetliners as guided missiles in an assault on urban areas, symbolic targets or parts of the critical infrastructure of the United States, including nuclear plants and petroleum facilities, according to several U.S. officials interviewed yesterday.

"This is a broad and serious threat that is not going to disappear with the cancellation of one or two flights," said one U.S. official who, like others, spoke on condition of anonymity.

"There is a lot of crisscrossing [intelligence] data that points to certain flights, certain times and certain countries," the official added. "It's not just in one location, point of departure or arrival. It's not only France and it's not only L.A."

Officials said they were particularly concerned about what appeared to be incomplete information from France about the fate of several men whose names had appeared on the passenger manifest of an Air France flight headed from Paris to Los Angeles early Christmas Eve.

The men were scheduled to board Flight 68 - one of three canceled Wednesday at the urgent request of the U.S. and French governments, based on what U.S. intelligence officials said were credible indications that they might have been targeted for attack. Air France announced that flights would resume today.

The Los Angeles Times reported Wednesday that U.S. officials had told French authorities that up to six passengers on Flight 68 might be al-Qaida or Taliban terrorists, and that one was a trained pilot with a commercial license.

Yesterday, French authorities said they searched and questioned at least seven passengers who had checked in for Flight 68 at Charles de Gaulle Airport, and that they made no arrests and did not open a judicial inquiry.

"Some people were interrogated and their baggage was searched. But they are free," said the official, who asked to remain anonymous. "Nothing in particular was found. No terrorists were identified. There is nothing new today and no problems."

[red]But a U.S. official said yesterday that some of the men whose names had been given to the French never showed up at the airport - including the man believed to be a pilot - and that he did not believe French authorities had questioned them.

"We haven't heard the full story," said the U.S. official, particularly the details about how many of the men identified by U.S. intelligence were questioned by French authorities, and what they said before being let go.[/red]

More information surfaced yesterday about why U.S. officials were so fearful that the three Air France flights might have been targeted for hijacking.

One U.S. official, quoting electronic intercepts, said terrorist operatives had been overheard discussing specific flight numbers and airlines without mentioning a specific day, while other conversations alluded to attacks on the Christmas holiday and other days.

"It was not just coincidence of names," the official said. "There were other indicators that raised concerns."

French authorities said they took the U.S. request very seriously. After a flurry of high-level conversations between the two governments Wednesday, the office of the prime minister announced the cancellations based on information relayed by the U.S. Embassy in Paris about a plot to commandeer a Paris-to-Los Angeles flight for a Sept. 11-style attack.

"This decision to cancel the flights was taken at the highest level," a senior French law enforcement official said. "But this was all based on information coming from the Americans. And apparently nothing was found."

Those singled out for questioning at the airport Wednesday included citizens of the United States, France and Belgium, the French Interior Ministry official said. He did not say whether the passengers under scrutiny had Arab names and did not give the precise number questioned.

But French news media reported yesterday that police questioned two men of Arab origin who turned out to be a diplomat and an athlete. French news media also reported that U.S. law enforcement provided French counterparts with the name of a Tunisian with a pilot's license as a potential suspect. But the Tunisian was not on the passenger lists and appears to be in his native country, according to the reports.

Investigators in Europe are on high alert for terrorist attacks because of al-Qaida's record of attempting strikes during the Christmas holidays. And last month's suicide bombings against British and Jewish targets in Istanbul, Turkey, reinforced worries that Islamic terrorists are intent on carrying out attacks in Western Europe, especially against allies of the United States in Iraq.

British and Spanish police have deployed special armed patrols. Italian authorities beefed up defenses at the Vatican and elsewhere after a report of a terror plot against Roman Catholic religious symbols in Italy.

The fear of attacks involving aviation increased recently when British police arrested a man suspected of preparing a device to smuggle plastic explosives aboard a plane. Traces of plastic explosives were found in socks that the man had connected with string, allegedly a device he intended to strap on under his clothes and use to smuggle bomb-making components aboard a plane, investigators say.

French police joined the investigation of the Briton, who has been charged with terrorism, because he is an alleged associate of Richard Reid, the convicted al-Qaida operative who tried to blow up a Paris-to-Miami flight with explosive-filled gym shoes Dec. 22, 2001. French police failed to detect the plot by Reid, despite an interrogation at Charles De Gaulle Airport that caused him to miss his original flight.

Los Angeles Times staff writers Andrew Blankstein and Achrene Sicakyuz contributed to this article. The Los Angeles Times is a Tribune Publishing newspaper.
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Link Posted: 12/26/2003 6:24:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/26/2003 6:25:26 PM EDT by Cazador223]
Las Vegas being the target was just a rumor we locals started in an attempt to keep the other half of So. California from moving here.


edited to say: fuck the french
Link Posted: 12/26/2003 6:29:34 PM EDT

Link Posted: 12/27/2003 3:07:34 AM EDT
Merde atop le French.
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 7:58:58 AM EDT
The one problem with this hijack plot is that Air France apparently does usually have armed security on their flights, plus the French govt has an air marshall type program, so hijackers would have to deal with at least 4 armed men, plut the pilots to take the plane.  I wonder how much muscle Al Queda planned to put on the mission--must have been more than the 5 hijackers indicated.

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