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Posted: 3/18/2006 6:44:37 AM EDT
A story on Drudge stated that more High School are going to Spring Break (something like 20% of the spring break crowd now). What kind of parents let their kids go out of town unsupervised? It seems the Age of Innocence just keeps getting pushed back and back...
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 7:03:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/18/2006 7:05:57 AM EDT by FITTER]
I don't know; it seems to me that kids always went away on spring break during Easter, and came back all tanned. At least they did in my area. It might depend on the location. Consider the age of whoever wrote the editorial, and where they are from.

ETA: I always assumed that they went with their families to visit the grandparents, and NO, I wouldn't let my kids go out of town unsupervised. It's bad enough even when they're IN town!
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 7:07:15 AM EDT
My high school age children are not going anywhere without adequate "adult supervision." Even though not related to the subject at hand, the Natalie Holloway debacle was the result of "inadequate adult supervision." These high schoolers may look like adults physically, but mentally they are still children.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 7:08:30 AM EDT
Wealthy country
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 7:09:57 AM EDT
Aruba anyone?
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 7:14:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AyeGuy:
A story on Drudge stated that more High School are going to Spring Break (something like 20% of the spring break crowd now). What kind of parents let their kids go out of town unsupervised? It seems the Age of Innocence just keeps getting pushed back and back...



these are the same parent who hand their 16yr olds a new mustang and are shocked when they crash it and kill themselves.

the same ones who can't figure out how their kid went missing in a foreign country.then get on the news for 8+ months


the parents will blame everyone and everything but themselves too.

must be one of those rich things, we poor kids didn't seem to have those problems as much.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 7:27:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/18/2006 7:41:58 AM EDT by NavajoGunOwner]
Just a continuation of the parenting mindset which has been described as "Parenting by Proxy".

Have the child and send them away as soon as possible to be tended by someone else. starting from six weeks old , off to daycare they go.Some people around here go nuts when they 'have too' have the children home during the breaks.

Have you ever noticed how many specialty 'Camps' are out thier? music, soccer, band, math, piano, sports, church, etc, etc. you can send your kids away almost all year long. After all who are these little people that don't think or value the things we do?

So why should it surprise any one that a parent of these children wouldn't allow this to occur....get the kids out their hair for two weeks and the kids are "happy" (which is what people are supposed to be , right?)

Do it for the kids.......


ETA: Start homeschooling your kids , they have your vaules, the goals in life you strive for become the goals they desire and value. Of course without one spouse working you as the parents may have to move into a smaller house, go on driving vacations ( in a ten year old mini van, with three kids), check out movies from the libaray, shop at yard sales, drive older cars that you fix yourself (with your kids), cook almost all your own meals ( once again with your kids), teach you kids to earn money for the things they want ( neighbors like to pay to have someone walk their dogs for them). You just might end up spending alot of time together as a family....In my neighborhood we are the strange ones. only family home all day and doing things together all the time. Funny thing is, the neighborhood kids envy our kids.....lol
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 7:29:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By unkempt1:

Originally Posted By AyeGuy:
A story on Drudge stated that more High School are going to Spring Break (something like 20% of the spring break crowd now). What kind of parents let their kids go out of town unsupervised? It seems the Age of Innocence just keeps getting pushed back and back...



these are the same parent who hand their 16yr olds a new mustang and are shocked when they crash it and kill themselves.

the same ones who can't figure out how their kid went missing in a foreign country.then get on the news for 8+ months


the parents will blame everyone and everything but themselves too.

must be one of those rich things, we poor kids didn't seem to have those problems as much.




You noticed that too?
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 7:31:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Aruba anyone?






Link Posted: 3/18/2006 7:52:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/18/2006 8:09:38 AM EDT by warlord]
If you're not careful, your kid could end up in a porno web site.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 7:55:07 AM EDT
or robbed or raped or getting an STD
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 7:59:36 AM EDT
i have noticed a BIG jump in HS kids around ehre (Miami) the past few weeks as spring break has been rolling in.

Miami is NOT a city to send your HS aged kid (boy or girl) alone. This is NOT a safe city to walk around in if you don't know what you're doing. You think Aruba is bad, try walking past the lighted area of Coconut Grove..... you will NEVER be seen again.

...yes, I LIVE where you WISH you could vacation
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 8:00:13 AM EDT
We always went to South Padre or Turner Falls!!! I had rich friends!!
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 8:01:28 AM EDT
When I was in h.s. (class of 04 i.e. recently) I dont really recall spring break being a big thing. My gues is it's much more prevalent among kids in a high class schools.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 10:01:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SkyCatII:

Originally Posted By unkempt1:

Originally Posted By AyeGuy:
A story on Drudge stated that more High School are going to Spring Break (something like 20% of the spring break crowd now). What kind of parents let their kids go out of town unsupervised? It seems the Age of Innocence just keeps getting pushed back and back...



these are the same parent who hand their 16yr olds a new mustang and are shocked when they crash it and kill themselves.

the same ones who can't figure out how their kid went missing in a foreign country.then get on the news for 8+ months


the parents will blame everyone and everything but themselves too.

must be one of those rich things, we poor kids didn't seem to have those problems as much.




You noticed that too?



Yeah LOL Go poor kids!!!!
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 10:05:25 AM EDT
Back when i was in high school a bunch of us went to cades cove in smokey mountain national park. It was safer there then the city we left .
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 10:06:16 AM EDT
I heard they have guns now as well.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 10:07:53 AM EDT
Well, my county's always had spring break as a holiday (always the week before easter, here), and a lot of people do go places during it. I, however, am going to Richmond, and that's about it.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 10:22:41 AM EDT

High School kids go to Spring Break now? WTF?

woohoo!!! can't wait for the next "girls gone wild!" dvd!!!

welcome to the end of the roman empire where your deepest, darkest, most degenerate fantasy can come true!
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 10:25:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By hardcorps1775:

High School kids go to Spring Break now? WTF?

woohoo!!! can't wait for the next "girls gone wild!" dvd!!!

welcome to the end of the roman empire where your deepest, darkest, most degenerate fantasy can come true!



Link Posted: 3/18/2006 12:54:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AyeGuy:
A story on Drudge stated that more High School are going to Spring Break (something like 20% of the spring break crowd now). What kind of parents let their kids go out of town unsupervised? It seems the Age of Innocence just keeps getting pushed back and back...



Yet I recall watching "Our Gang" and seeing 8-10 year olds go camping by themselves for the weekend. I know it ain't the same as Spring Break but still.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 1:44:20 PM EDT
I graduted HS in 1989. The majority of seniors in my Michigan high school went to Florida for spring break. So i dont think its a new thing.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 1:46:18 PM EDT

I wish more of them would go to Aruba or Miami or something, because for some kids, posting on ar15.com seems to be their Spring Break actvitiy.

Link Posted: 3/18/2006 1:53:34 PM EDT
Well the seniors are probably mostly 18. I don't see why there would be a problem as far as they're concerned.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 2:01:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/18/2006 2:02:54 PM EDT by Hellhound]

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
I wish more of them would go to Aruba or Miami or something, because for some kids, posting on ar15.com seems to be their Spring Break actvitiy.




13thwarrior, huh?


I remember my sister going to Daytona, FL on spring break when she was a senior in high school--back in 1987.

I was a few years younger than her and even I knew that was not a good idea.

My parents let her go too.



She came back all convinced that she had met the love of her life and wanted to leave and marry him. My father heard this shit for about 2 days and finally told her at dinner one night the following:

"If you leave this house to go be with him, I will find both of you. I will kill him and bury him so that no one will find him. That is the last I want to hear about this whole godamned thing!"

My dad does not get provoked to anger, but if he does.....

We never heard another word about this guy that no one met.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 2:03:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Hellhound:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
I wish more of them would go to Aruba or Miami or something, because for some kids, posting on ar15.com seems to be their Spring Break actvitiy.




13thwarrior, huh?





I was also thinking of that doofus who posted a ranting tinfoily movie review of "V for Vendetta" over in the AR discussion forum. Darsus or something, is his handle.

Link Posted: 3/18/2006 2:03:57 PM EDT
Not my daughter.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 2:07:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AyeGuy:
It seems the Age of Innocence just keeps getting pushed back and back...



Shouldn't it be forward, not backwards?
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 2:11:47 PM EDT
Damn.
My Dad put me and my brothers to work ( general contractor)whenever we had off-Saturdays,breaks,summer. This was in addition to our regularly scheduled chores.
"If I gotta feed ya,I'm gonna git some work outta ya".
And if we weren't working,we STILL did things together-fishing,hunting,crabbing,shooting,etc
We were given responsibility and HELD responsible for our actions! IMAGINE!
And I thank God EVERY day,for the way I was raised,and hope I've instilled the same in my kids.

Link Posted: 3/18/2006 2:18:36 PM EDT
My friend and I drove from NE Ohio to to Key West on spring break in '79. We were both high school seniors.

It was a time of great teenage debauchery.

I wouldn't trade the memories for anything.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 2:22:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AyeGuy:
A story on Drudge stated that more High School are going to Spring Break (something like 20% of the spring break crowd now). What kind of parents let their kids go out of town unsupervised? It seems the Age of Innocence just keeps getting pushed back and back...



My parents would have NEVER permitted me to go to Mexico with a bunch of high-schoolers or college people when I was in high school. Hell, I had a curfew until I was 18, and then I had to work a job and go to school.

Didn't hurt me one bit.

I suppose that parents these days don't know how to properly beat their kids.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 2:23:04 PM EDT
yea, it's fucked up.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 2:24:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/18/2006 2:25:27 PM EDT by John_Wayne777]

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
Yet I recall watching "Our Gang" and seeing 8-10 year olds go camping by themselves for the weekend.



Were they funneling liquor, drinking with a bong, dancing on bars, or having lesbian makeout sessions??

Was Alfalfa slipping roofies into Darla's drink??
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 2:44:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NavajoGunOwner:
Just a continuation of the parenting mindset which has been described as "Parenting by Proxy".




Very good post.

I have a take on it too, though. I call it "Parenting by Discomfort Avoidance". The parents try to avoid discomfort by sending the kids to daycare so that they can both work and afford those new cars, vacations, computers, restuarant meals, etc., etc., etc. In an attempt to make up for their lack of parenting, they say that they both work so they can send their kids to better schools and "provide" for them. So, they spoil the hell out of the kids too by showering material goods on the children.

And because saying "No" is emotionally difficult, the parents never tell the kids "No". They rationalize by telling themselves that they don't want their kids to be "outsiders".

Because spanking really is harder on the parent than it is the child, these kids never get disciplined either.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 3:29:11 PM EDT

My 17 yr old son asked if he could go to Florida with some buddies and a couple of parents .
I said HELL NO . He has a damn good afterschool construction job . I told him to stay home
and make some money . His girlfriend's Dad owns the company and pays him $10 bucks an hour .
He started thinking about how many hours he could get in , and he got over his diappointment
pretty quick .
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 3:42:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/18/2006 3:43:20 PM EDT by rharjes]
I went to school in a rural community in Minnesota. I went twice while I was in high school, once when I was 16, and again when I was 18. Both times I went with friends, and we drove down there(non stop). We had the trust of all of our parents, and in hind sight, we didn't let them down. On top of all that, we each paid our own way, with no help from mom and dad.

Edited: We drove to Florida both times. No out of country spring break trips for me, too scary.

Rick
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 3:47:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/18/2006 3:47:49 PM EDT by NavajoGunOwner]

Originally Posted By TacticalMan:
I have a take on it too, though. I call it "Parenting by Discomfort Avoidance".

And because saying "No" is emotionally difficult, the parents never tell the kids "No". They rationalize by telling themselves that they don't want their kids to be "outsiders".





Thank You,

Most kids are raised with not peer approval but with what should be rightfully called "peer dependance" this starts early in the school system, right cloths, toys, haircut, bike, cell phone, etc., etc. Most of these kids growup and continue the process, live in the right neighborhood, drive the right car, go on the best vacations, shop at the right stores.....etc.

Very sad to see this as the prevalent attitude in this country, we as a country aren't going to last long. Just like a prior post pointed out , welcome to the end of the Roman Empire....the end of being the sad part.

Hope to give my kids enought character training to make it through the times they are going to face.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 4:58:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TacticalMan:

I have a take on it too, though. I call it "Parenting by Discomfort Avoidance". The parents try to avoid discomfort by sending the kids to daycare so that they can both work and afford those new cars, vacations, computers, restuarant meals, etc., etc., etc. In an attempt to make up for their lack of parenting, they say that they both work so they can send their kids to better schools and "provide" for them. So, they spoil the hell out of the kids too by showering material goods on the children.

And because saying "No" is emotionally difficult, the parents never tell the kids "No". They rationalize by telling themselves that they don't want their kids to be "outsiders".

Because spanking really is harder on the parent than it is the child, these kids never get disciplined either.



wisdom
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 6:54:36 PM EDT
Around here (DC area) they have some sort of later Spring Break, in May I think, when the young, dumb, and rich head to the MD beaches. It is a big deal.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 8:10:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
Yet I recall watching "Our Gang" and seeing 8-10 year olds go camping by themselves for the weekend.



Were they funneling liquor, drinking with a bong, dancing on bars, or having lesbian makeout sessions??

Was Alfalfa slipping roofies into Darla's drink??



If a persons kid is already doing those things I don't think keeping them home from Spring Break is gonna save them.

But as I stated earlier I know it's not the same thing.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 8:14:24 PM EDT
Yea... I haven't gotten around to going and I'm a sophomore in college...

its a waste of time and money IMHO... I'm an engineering student and I have projects I got to be working on right now anyways.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 8:18:45 PM EDT
Pedifiles need to get laid too.

Seems like a bad idea to send off your 16 year old daughter to a college spring break. But hey we all want to be grandparent right. I have an idea... Let em all go over to aruba unsupervised, maybe you wont have to pay for college.

Jeezzze!
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