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Posted: 5/1/2015 8:11:03 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 8:17:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MikeE23666:
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what's this "controversy" they keep mentioning in the video? #piratelivesmatter ? or something
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 8:23:10 PM EDT
I'm not in favor of warning shots when the attackers' intentions are so clear.

I don't recall any uproar over that video either. Was that the news creating news instead of reporting it?
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 8:25:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JellyBelly:
I'm not in favor of warning shots when the attackers' intentions are so clear.

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The only "uproar" is that they're wasting ammo with warning shots, IMO
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 8:27:08 PM EDT
Gentlemen, you are weapons free.
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 8:28:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JellyBelly:
I'm not in favor of warning shots when the attackers' intentions are so clear.

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Yep. Pirates don't deserve warning shots. Hostis humani generis.
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 8:29:25 PM EDT
Pirates? Open fire.
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 8:32:05 PM EDT
I wonder if any Japanese whaling captains are paying attention?
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 8:38:23 PM EDT

Screw warning shots. I would rather hide until they were well within range and then eliminate all the pirates on that ship. Enough go missing and it may just slow down the piracy some.
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 8:38:39 PM EDT
I agree this falls under "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes". The fewer pirates that collect money, the fewer that will want to try it.
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 8:38:53 PM EDT
I can see 5.56 mm firearms for short range, but for stand off they should be armed like the Rooskies with belt fed .50 cal plus? How about some 20 mm Oerlikons or 40 mm Bofors from WW II?
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 8:46:03 PM EDT
Why not put an end to amateur hour and send in the Sea Org? They could take care of this "pirate" problem.
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 8:48:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fttam:
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I've got some friends who run some ship security. I'll have to ask him if they give warning shots.
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 8:49:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AssaultRifler:

what's this "controversy" they keep mentioning in the video? #piratelivesmatter ? or something
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Originally Posted By AssaultRifler:
Originally Posted By MikeE23666:
http://youtu.be/qJcG0cPtJO8

what's this "controversy" they keep mentioning in the video? #piratelivesmatter ? or something

The controversy about the Maersk Alabama going too close to Somalia. The video isn't exactly hard to follow.
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 8:50:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tacoma721:
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No Sales Tax?

"Clear!"

Link Posted: 5/1/2015 8:51:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4v50:
I can see 5.56 mm firearms for short range, but for stand off they should be armed like the Rooskies with belt fed .50 cal plus? How about some 20 mm Oerlikons or 40 mm Bofors from WW II?
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They likely cannot fire from stand off distances. They are likely required to be sure of the intent before using lethal force. Hence warning shots and opening up once the boat keeps coming.
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 8:51:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4v50:
I can see 5.56 mm firearms for short range, but for stand off they should be armed like the Rooskies with belt fed .50 cal plus? How about some 20 mm Oerlikons or 40 mm Bofors from WW II?
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Foreign ports might not allow deck mounted weapons on commercial ships?
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 8:55:38 PM EDT
That looks like a great job
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 8:59:45 PM EDT
I feel like they're trying to make contractors look bad, but in reality just showed that they were effective and worth the money.
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 9:08:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JellyBelly:

Foreign ports might not allow deck mounted weapons on commercial ships?
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Originally Posted By JellyBelly:
Originally Posted By 4v50:
I can see 5.56 mm firearms for short range, but for stand off they should be armed like the Rooskies with belt fed .50 cal plus? How about some 20 mm Oerlikons or 40 mm Bofors from WW II?

Foreign ports might not allow deck mounted weapons on commercial ships?
I think this is correct.

What needs to happen is to carry a tender-ship that can store the weapon while the ship is in port and then re-attach weapon once ship leaves port.
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 9:16:44 PM EDT
What was the point of that report?
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 9:17:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By rod727:
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Other than the fact that it is like 3 years old?

Nothing.
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 9:23:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By akodo:
I think this is correct.

What needs to happen is to carry a tender-ship that can store the weapon while the ship is in port and then re-attach weapon once ship leaves port.
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Originally Posted By akodo:
Originally Posted By JellyBelly:
Originally Posted By 4v50:
I can see 5.56 mm firearms for short range, but for stand off they should be armed like the Rooskies with belt fed .50 cal plus? How about some 20 mm Oerlikons or 40 mm Bofors from WW II?

Foreign ports might not allow deck mounted weapons on commercial ships?
I think this is correct.

What needs to happen is to carry a tender-ship that can store the weapon while the ship is in port and then re-attach weapon once ship leaves port.


Lets do this. Ill liquidate my 401k for VC. Whos with me
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 9:24:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/1/2015 9:25:35 PM EDT by Chaingun]
More guards the better. Kill the pirates.

I would prefer a .308 rifle
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 9:27:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/1/2015 9:31:27 PM EDT by AESteele]
Needs moar Somali Cruises
http://www.somalicruises.com/
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 9:29:07 PM EDT
Man what an awesome job.
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 9:38:14 PM EDT
I can't fathom the type of person who thinks that a pirate(s) attempting to board and take over a vessel shouldn't be shot on site
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 9:38:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AssaultRifler:

what's this "controversy" they keep mentioning in the video? #piratelivesmatter ? or something
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Originally Posted By AssaultRifler:
Originally Posted By MikeE23666:
http://youtu.be/qJcG0cPtJO8

what's this "controversy" they keep mentioning in the video? #piratelivesmatter ? or something


Yeah. For the limp-wristed sissys in the media, killing pirates IS controversial.

Guess what my feelings are...

TC
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 9:40:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Number0neGun:
I feel like they're trying to make contractors look bad, but in reality just showed that they were effective and worth the money.
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Yeah. "No ships guarded by security forces have been hijacked". End of discussion.

TC
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 9:41:10 PM EDT
Have the pirates given up due to the armed resistance?
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 12:13:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By LinkedM4:
Originally Posted By akodo:
Originally Posted By JellyBelly:
Originally Posted By 4v50:
I can see 5.56 mm firearms for short range, but for stand off they should be armed like the Rooskies with belt fed .50 cal plus? How about some 20 mm Oerlikons or 40 mm Bofors from WW II?

Foreign ports might not allow deck mounted weapons on commercial ships?
I think this is correct.

What needs to happen is to carry a tender-ship that can store the weapon while the ship is in port and then re-attach weapon once ship leaves port.


Lets do this. Ill liquidate my 401k for VC. Whos with me


What kind of tender is going to stay that far off shore for what could be many days. That stops being called a tender and starts being called a war ship pretty quick.
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 12:23:09 AM EDT
Abc news lol
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 1:27:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Erkeric:


They likely cannot fire from stand off distances. They are likely required to be sure of the intent before using lethal force. Hence warning shots and opening up once the boat keeps coming.
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Originally Posted By Erkeric:
Originally Posted By 4v50:
I can see 5.56 mm firearms for short range, but for stand off they should be armed like the Rooskies with belt fed .50 cal plus? How about some 20 mm Oerlikons or 40 mm Bofors from WW II?


They likely cannot fire from stand off distances. They are likely required to be sure of the intent before using lethal force. Hence warning shots and opening up once the boat keeps coming.


Well .50 cal and greater has a longer effective warning shot range.
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 1:34:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tacoma721:
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Link Posted: 5/2/2015 1:35:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JellyBelly:
I'm not in favor of warning shots when the attackers' intentions are so clear.

I don't recall any uproar over that video either. Was that the news creating news instead of reporting it?
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