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Posted: 8/12/2005 8:43:52 AM EDT
So I'm switching my .45 self-defense ammo from hydrashoks to something else; I wanted to check the boxotruth to refresh my memory regarding expansion and weight retention in 230 gr HPs. But the box o' truth is currently outta commission! What gives?

PS Anyone remember which 230 gr. hollowpoint held together best and still expanded even when shot through heavy clothes?

PPS OP, are you working on something new for us? Please say yes.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 8:45:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2005 8:47:17 AM EDT by NH_AR_Shooter]
He took it down due to web hosting problems.....

Something about the web host being stinking thieves....

It was great while it lasted.

Thanks Old Painless!
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 8:45:13 AM EDT
He had issues with his ISP/Webhost. I don't believe he is planning on bringing it back.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 8:46:35 AM EDT
Since it was labeled the BoxofTruth, it had a slight hint of religious morality and thus has been moved to another forum.

Sgatr15
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 8:46:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Beleg:
So I'm switching my .45 self-defense ammo from hydrashoks to something else; I wanted to check the boxotruth to refresh my memory regarding expansion and weight retention in 230 gr HPs. But the box o' truth is currently outta commission! What gives?

PS Anyone remember which 230 gr. hollowpoint held together best and still expanded even when shot through heavy clothes?

PPS OP, are you working on something new for us? Please say yes.



So you're moving up from hydrashocks?

Welcome to 2005.


Try speer Gold Dots or winchester Ranger-T.

Link Posted: 8/12/2005 8:46:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By thelastgunslinger:
He had issues with his ISP/Webhost. I don't believe he is planning on bringing it back.



that sucks to the n'th

Link Posted: 8/12/2005 12:32:20 PM EDT
Hi Beleg. Sorry I was late, but just saw your post.

As has been stated, I had to shut down my site due to problems with the host. Very sad story.

The good news is that I am working with someone on Ar15.com, a member and dealer, who I may be able to help host it for me.

If that all works out, I will post the news.

In the mean time, while I don't usually recommend brands of ammo, I just bought a couple of boxes of SXT Ranger ammo for my carry guns.

Thanks for the interest.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 12:49:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Old_Painless:
Hi Beleg. Sorry I was late, but just saw your post.

As has been stated, I had to shut down my site due to problems with the host. Very sad story.

The good news is that I am working with someone on Ar15.com, a member and dealer, who I may be able to help host it for me.

If that all works out, I will post the news.

In the mean time, while I don't usually recommend brands of ammo, I just bought a couple of boxes of SXT Ranger ammo for my carry guns.

Thanks for the interest.





Who was the webhost? What kind of problems did they give you?


I may have a free hosting account from work if that'll help.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 12:53:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By napalm:

I may have a free hosting account from work if that'll help.



Many thanks, but I used over 68,000MB of bandwidth in one month. That's a lot of hits for a small site.

I'll see what happens with the folks I'm talking with.

But thanks for the offer.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 1:00:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2005 1:18:35 PM EDT by BulletBait]

Originally Posted By Old_Painless:
Many thanks, but I used over 68,000MB of bandwidth in one month. That's a lot of hits for a small site.

I'll see what happens with the folks I'm talking with.

But thanks for the offer.


Quality matters most.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 1:07:23 PM EDT

Link Posted: 8/12/2005 1:12:48 PM EDT
Hmmmmm...
I need bandwidth...


Sgfatr15
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 3:19:07 PM EDT
What IS the box-o-truth? Is it some kind of high-fiber cerial used for ballistic testing? Will it stop 30/06?
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 3:25:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Crowcreek:
What IS the box-o-truth? Is it some kind of high-fiber cerial used for ballistic testing? Will it stop 30/06?



All of the above.

Would LOVE to see a 5.45 test done.

Ben
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 3:26:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Crowcreek:
What IS the box-o-truth? Is it some kind of high-fiber cerial used for ballistic testing? Will it stop 30/06?



it's a series of tests in which various calibers of various types of ammo were fired into various materials.

O.P. and taxman worked on it, documented penetration results and posted it online.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 3:26:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fadedsun:

Would LOVE to see a 5.45 test done.

Ben



How soon we forget.

Already did it.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 3:28:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By david_g17:

it's a series of tests in which various calibers of various types of ammo were fired into various materials.

O.P. and taxman worked on it, documented penetration results and posted it online.



David_g17, I owe you a beer for getting my old buddy Tman's name wrong.

It will drive him nuts.

Many thanks.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 3:28:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2005 3:30:08 PM EDT by ironoxbows]

Originally Posted By david_g17:

Originally Posted By Crowcreek:
What IS the box-o-truth? Is it some kind of high-fiber cerial used for ballistic testing? Will it stop 30/06?



it's a series of tests in which various calibers of various types of ammo were fired into various materials.

O.P. and taxman Tman worked on it, documented penetration results and posted it online.



Fixed.....what can I say., I'm a fan

ETA...Not even fast enough to beat the old retired guy


Link Posted: 8/12/2005 3:35:32 PM EDT
Do we need to do a fund raiser for the B o' T?

G
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 3:39:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Old_Painless:

Originally Posted By fadedsun:

Would LOVE to see a 5.45 test done.

Ben



How soon we forget.

Already did it.



huh? I must have missed that one.

Anyone have pics saved of it?

Ben
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 3:48:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Old_Painless:
That's a lot of hits for a small site.



[Yoda]Size matters not.[/Yoda]
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 4:13:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fadedsun:

Originally Posted By Old_Painless:

Originally Posted By fadedsun:

Would LOVE to see a 5.45 test done.

Ben



How soon we forget.

Already did it.



huh? I must have missed that one.

Anyone have pics saved of it?

Ben



From the Archives: archive.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=309557

You're welcome.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 4:16:07 PM EDT
Alright, I bought a box of SXT's and a box of Gold Dots. Now I'll have to go shooting again tomorrow. Darn. Just what my 1911 needs; more rounds through it!!

OP, you're still my favorite arfcom member, boxotruth or not.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 4:23:20 PM EDT
Old_Painless is indeed a true ARFCOM hero, I hope I can meet him someday...
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 4:27:21 PM EDT
Old_Painless have you approached GB about possibly having it hosted here...?
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 4:44:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Beleg:
Alright, I bought a box of SXT's and a box of Gold Dots. Now I'll have to go shooting again tomorrow. Darn. Just what my 1911 needs; more rounds through it!!

OP, you're still my favorite arfcom member, boxotruth or not.



Many thanks, Beleg. I appreciate the compliment.


ZootTX said:

Old_Painless is indeed a true ARFCOM hero, I hope I can meet him someday...



Shucks, you're in Texas. How far can that be?

I'd be glad to meet you. Maybe at the Big Houston Gun Show some day?


Link Posted: 8/12/2005 4:46:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2005 4:46:39 PM EDT by Old_Painless]

Originally Posted By Noname:
Old_Painless have you approached GB about possibly having it hosted here...?



No, but there has been no interest shown.

That's all right.

They have been more than kind to supply me with this fine site to post my original posts in.

I've made a lot of friends here, had a lot of fun, and am appreciative.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 6:38:40 PM EDT
you might want to check out surfspeedy.com. They're pretty reasonable. I miss the web site & info, needed to refer to it just the other day.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:11:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By glock23carry:
Do we need to do a fund raiser for the B o' T?

G



I would kick in a few $$
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 2:27:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thelastgunslinger:

Originally Posted By glock23carry:
Do we need to do a fund raiser for the B o' T?

G



I would kick in a few $$




Count me in...
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 2:41:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CS223:
I miss the web site & info, needed to refer to it just the other day.



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