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Posted: 10/10/2004 9:44:07 AM EDT
I haven't heard of any big moves on their part yet. They have to be capable of something.
Link Posted: 10/10/2004 9:51:26 AM EDT
Rumor has it, they're scouring the country, looking for a live Chechen to ask.
Link Posted: 10/10/2004 9:52:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By rainman:
I haven't heard of any big moves on their part yet. They have to be capable of something.

They've done a few raids. Some pretty severe. It wasn't highly reported. I only learned about it from reading a few fleeting threads over the past month.

No links, sorry.

Link Posted: 10/10/2004 10:01:25 AM EDT
The best thing about the Russians is that they will not tell anyone. I think it should stay that way. Plus, I am sure they have killed hundreds of them.
Link Posted: 10/10/2004 10:08:03 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/10/2004 10:13:53 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/10/2004 11:05:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CAMPYBOB:

the russians are a very forgiving people! trust me, comrades...they LOVE muslims!

I doubt the press would say anything even if they knew what Putin has done... The citizens on the other hand:


Beslan Aftermath…Muslim Women Live in Fear

By Damir Ahmed, IOL Correspondent

MOSCOW, September 30 (IslamOnline.net) - Most Russian Muslims have
prevented their women from leaving alone due to escalation of racial
assaults in the wake of the Beslan crisis, a leading Russian newspaper
has reported.

Izvestia said in a report, published Wednesday, September 29, the 20
million Muslim community living in different towns fear female members
could be soft targets in ugly incidents of hostility sparked after the
seizure and hostage taking in Beslan, blamed on Chechen fighters.

Russia's Council of Muftis, however, declined to set a number of
racial incidents against Muslims since the deadly attacks in Beslan.

"Most Muslims fear reporting attacks carried out against them for fear
of reprisal from extremist Russian groups," a source in the council
told IslamOnline.net Wednesday.

Several dozen skinheads rampaged through a metro carriage, stabbing
passengers they believed were Muslims from southern regions and
shouting "This one is for the terrorist act!".

Three people from ex-Soviet Tajikistan and Azerbaijan were hurt in the


Tens of Russians have, during the current month, attacked several
Muslim young women in public places, underground stations and public
squares, taking off their veils and pouring them with insults, the
Russian newspaper reported.

The paper cited other examples of the cases, including an attempt by a
number of Russian nationalists to attack a Muslim mother of six
children in eastern Moscow; yet, policemen managed to save her life.

The newspaper disclosed another incident, that had never been
published before, where unknown people hung posters on the walls of a
mosque in western Moscow reading: "Islam Is a Religion for Non-Humans".

Further, the paper said, Russian federal police have received
instructions from the Interior Ministry to stop any hijab-clad woman
to check her identity on claims of being a suspected "terrorist".

Russians objecting to the presence of fellow passengers in Muslim
dress have delayed four flights in the past month, with airport
officials conducting additional checks on "suspect" passengers or
moving them to other flights.

On September 16, a Muslim woman was found in a remote area in the
eastern city of Asbest raped and tortured to death, Russia 's NTV
network reported citing Russian police sources.

The 45-year-old mother of three was hit on the head by an iron device
by unknown attackers, who wrote "Death to terrorists" on the back of
her naked body.

Unknown people have also accosted and battered a mosque imam in the
city of Sterlitamak in Bashkiria Republic. The imam is now in a
critical condition due to severe head injuries.

Tolerance Appeal

This came as President Vladimir Putin made an appeal for Russians not
to give in to hatred of ethnic and religious minorities that he said
extremists were trying to foment.

Addressing religious leaders Wednesday, Putin said Russians had to
ensure that the battle to crush extremism bred no hatred in a country
with more than 100 ethnic groups.

Putin's appeal for tolerance reflected growing unease at brutality and
mistrust often directed at dark-complexioned people from the Caucasus
or ex-Soviet states to the south or in Central Asia, according to Reuters.

Russian Muslims reacted with fury after the Beslan attack, where More
than 322 people, including 155 children , were killed when the Russian
special forces stormed a school in northern Ossetia to release 1000
children and parents taken hostage by militants in northern Ossetia.

The attack was reportedly claimed by Chechen fighter Shamil Basayev
though veteran leader Aslan Maskhdov had condemned the attack and
vigorously distanced himself from.

But more than 40,000 Muslims took to the streets in huge
demonstrations in 20 major cities on September 7 to denounce the

Also, Islamic figures and agencies in Russia and abroad have condemned
the operation.

Link Posted: 10/10/2004 12:54:22 PM EDT
Whatever the Russians do, the media will be about 100 miles away.

Link Posted: 10/10/2004 12:57:15 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/10/2004 1:01:50 PM EDT
I don't think the Russians have even started. They're just warming up.
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