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Posted: 6/12/2019 5:03:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/13/2019 2:17:10 PM EDT by meestermurphy]
So a couple weeks ago we got in the Stoeger STR9. After handling it initially we found it very Glock-ish. Take it apart, it’s damned near an identical copy.

Today we took it down side by side with a Glock 19 Gen 4. Curiosity got the best of us, and we discovered the STR9 slide will go right on the 19 Gen4 frame. (But the 19 Gen4 slide won’t go on the STR9 frame)

Not only will it go right on, the trigger functions and resets, and dropping a pen down the barrel and pulling the trigger, the striker launches it with authority.

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Stoeger left, Glock right
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Enhance....Stoeger left, Glock right
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Stoeger left, Glock right. Looks familiar...
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We were so obsessed with wondering if we could, we never stopped to ask if we should. Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the Stoeglock STR19 Gen4
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Stoeger: Hey Glock, can I copy your homework?

Glock: I guess, just don't make it obvious you copied it.

Stoeger: Hold my kebab and watch this...
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 5:12:46 PM EDT
lol
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 5:13:35 PM EDT
"Has science went too far?"

How about, has science GONE too far?
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 5:14:46 PM EDT
Never heard of Stoeger. Chinese rip off company???
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 5:16:56 PM EDT
Brings to mind the S&W Sigma.
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 5:17:21 PM EDT
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[Last Edit: 6/12/2019 5:19:37 PM EDT by aeroworksxp]
Aesthetically, the Stoeger looks much nicer. Metal sights? Are the feed ramps on the barrel the same?

The name makes me think "Ruger SR-9"
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 5:19:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By outofstep:
Never heard of Stoeger. Chinese rip off company???
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American import company that sells clones or similar style guns.

I mostly know them for picking up the Cougar pistols from Beretta and for their shotguns.
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Originally Posted By jimdvan:
"Has science went too far?"

How about, has science GONE too far?
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PARTS BAD MASHINING NEEDS ADJUSTED
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 5:22:21 PM EDT
Wow, that has got to be violating some sort of intellectual property laws.

I mean.....right?
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 5:22:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By outofstep:
Never heard of Stoeger. Chinese rip off company???
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Importer of brazilian made shotguns owned by benelli.
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 5:22:58 PM EDT
Does it take Glock mags?
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 5:23:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Squeefoo:
Does it take Glock mags?
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Glock mags will not work
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 5:28:57 PM EDT
So, it's a Glock for half the price. Hmmm
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Originally Posted By bigjunk1:
So, it's a Glock for half the price. Hmmm
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Because Glock prices are so oppressive?
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 5:34:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By outofstep:
Never heard of Stoeger. Chinese rip off company???
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Never heard of Stoeger ? ? ?



LOL ! ! !

Stoeger Industries has been around since before anyone on this forum was even born. With headquarters in Accokeek, Maryland, Stoeger was founded in the 1920's and is today owned by Beretta.
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Originally Posted By meestermurphy:

Glock mags will not work
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I understand it from a business stand point but it's ironic as hell.
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 5:35:39 PM EDT
Shoot it and report back
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STR-9 15-round mags are $50/each.

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Originally Posted By nvroundman:
Shoot it and report back
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With a rifle
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 5:41:23 PM EDT
STR9 slide fits on the glock. If It Does Fit, You Must Acquit Wait wrong quote.
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 5:42:22 PM EDT
Well this is embarrassing.

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My first handgun. Out of production for awhile, now we get thing.
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Originally Posted By nvroundman:
Shoot it and report back
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Originally Posted By nvroundman:
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Stoegaboom?
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 5:47:17 PM EDT
Looks like a Ruger SR-9.
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So shoot it already. What's the worst that could happen?
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Do they take the same magazine?
ETA nevermind asked and answered
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Originally Posted By Hesperus:
Well this is embarrassing.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/383325/image_jpeg-977691.JPG

My first handgun. Out of production for awhile, now we get thing.
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Those were great guns.
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 5:53:51 PM EDT
Huh. If Glock sued S&W for the Sigma, Stoeger should definitely expect a lawsuit.
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The STR trigger makes the Glock look like it’s custom.
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Originally Posted By noob5000000:
Huh. If Glock sued S&W for the Sigma, Stoeger should definitely expect a lawsuit.
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Patent wasn't expired in the 90's. It is now.

That's why we can build a glock now with 100% non glock parts if wanted.
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Originally Posted By DM1975:

Brings to mind the S&W Sigma.
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Didn't Glock sue S&W and S&W have to pay a royalty to Glock for every Sigma sold?
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 6:13:06 PM EDT
Maybe they are hoping for some 80% market action?
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Originally Posted By meestermurphy:
Glock mags will not work
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Originally Posted By meestermurphy:
Originally Posted By Squeefoo:
Does it take Glock mags?
Glock mags will not work
Well, that certainly is retarded
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Originally Posted By FunYun1983:
Maybe they are hoping for some 80% market action?
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Good point. An 80% would be an improvement. Then it would take glock mags.
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[Last Edit: 6/12/2019 6:32:30 PM EDT by Capt_Destro]
Curious if a Gen 3 slide would work.

Also wonder if you could make a Glock Magazine release fit.
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Originally Posted By outofstep:
Never heard of Stoeger.
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Really? How long have you been a gun enthusiast?


Type Private
Industry Firearms
Founded 1924
Headquarters Accokeek, Maryland, United States
Parent Benelli
Subsidiaries Stoeger Publishing
Website stoegerindustries.com
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 6:34:27 PM EDT
Are the mags interchangeable?
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When your only gun design is nearly 4 decades old, you really shouldn’t be surprised when lower-tier countries like Turkey start building copies.
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They are STRIKINGLY similar
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Originally Posted By Caeser2001:

Didn't Glock sue S&W and S&W have to pay a royalty to Glock for every Sigma sold?
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Yes, but if I remember correctly it was because the patent was still in effect back then.
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 6:41:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/13/2019 11:04:47 AM EDT by BerettaGuy]
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Originally Posted By Hesperus:
Well this is embarrassing.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/383325/image_jpeg-977691.JPG

My first handgun. Out of production for awhile, now we get thing.
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Great pistol and its really the Beretta Cougar as you probably know. Beretta Italy shipped everything (tooling, etc.) to Stoeger Turkey when they began production of the Px4 line in 2006.

The Beretta Holding Group owns Stoeger.
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 8:09:21 PM EDT
STR-9 is made in Turkey.

Mags do not drop free. They stop about halfway out (common complaint).

Front sight on the one I fondled was slightly bent by 1-2 degrees (another common complaint)

Trigger isn't bad but the safety blade is very prominent and tends to cut into your finger.

Basic model only comes with one mag, one backstrap. Spare mags seem very hard to find.

It's also a very heavy pistol.

My recommendation: Don't spend $299 spend $249 on a Walther Creed from CDNN
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Originally Posted By RogerKipwell:

Really? How long have you been a gun enthusiast?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/75/Stoeger_Industries.svg/300px-Stoeger_Industries.svg.png
Type Private
Industry Firearms
Founded 1924
Headquarters Accokeek, Maryland, United States
Parent Benelli
Subsidiaries Stoeger Publishing
Website stoegerindustries.com
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I'm not a gun enthusiast. They are ikky and should be banned.

I mean clearly someone that hasn't heard of this industry powerhouse, whose only claim to fame is making knockoffs, doesn't know jack shit about guns.

Godamn I feel dumb now. It's pretty fucking inconceivable that even a single person in the whole US wouldn't know the household name of stoeger.
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 9:02:35 PM EDT
Peak Stoeger when everyone realizes the slide will fit their Polymer 80 Glock lowers. Oops.
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