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Posted: 10/3/2005 10:56:10 AM EDT



SOME QUICK THOUGHTS ON HARRIET MIERS
This pick reinforces several traits Bush doesn't want reinforced right now. It's a pro-business pick. In Texas Miers specialized in "commercial litigation, including antitrust and trade regulations and intellectual property disputes" according to this bio. It's a pro-crony pick. She was Bush's personal lawyer as far back as the 1980s, and obviously loyalty to Bush trumped intellectual firepower. Finally, the Miers pick cements the idea that Bush is politically weak and scared of a major fight with Democrats. As Bill Kristol just pointed out on Fox, this choice will be depressing to conservatives at exactly the moment when they were looking to be bucked up by the president.
For instance economic conservatives pleased by her corporate law background may find it distressing that in 1990 Miers voted for a 7 percent property tax increase during her short tenure on the Dallas City Council. And Miers's long affiliation with the ABA will serve up lots of interesting tidbits that are unlikely to please social and legal conservatives. For instance, she apparently submitted the following report to the ABA's House of Delegates. Here are two of the report's recommendations:

Supports the enactment of laws and public policy which provide that sexual orientation shall not be a bar to adoption when the adoption is determined to be in the best interest of the child. ...

Recommends the development and establishment of an International Criminal Court.


Link Posted: 10/3/2005 10:59:15 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/3/2005 11:03:23 AM EDT
Yup.

And see my research in the other thread where she gave testimony favoring results focused affirmative action. (i.e., "we need more minorities represented on city counsel so lets change the district formulas until we achieve that result).

Ughhh.

First Myers for INS, a politcal crony move; now Meirs for SCOTUS.

Same story, basically.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 11:04:01 AM EDT
Supported revisiting the ABA's pro-death position on abortion. Renounced her Conservative Democratic membership due to the pro-death position.

She is as good as dead on this position alone.


President Bush's choice to fill the seat of retiring Supreme Court Justice and moderate abortion rights supporter Sandra Day O'Connor was a leader in an unsuccessful fight to get the nation's largest lawyers' group to reconsider its pro-abortion rights stance.

As president of the Texas State Bar in 1993, Harriet Miers urged the national American Bar Association to put the abortion issue to a referendum of the group's full membership. She questioned at the time whether the ABA should "be trying to speak for the entire legal community" on an issue that she said "has brought on tremendous divisiveness" within the ABA.




Nixing Mier will only promote a more leftist nominee. Keep her.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 11:18:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:


SOME QUICK THOUGHTS ON HARRIET MIERS
This pick reinforces several traits Bush doesn't want reinforced right now. It's a pro-business pick. In Texas Miers specialized in "commercial litigation, including antitrust and trade regulations and intellectual property disputes" according to this bio. It's a pro-crony pick. She was Bush's personal lawyer as far back as the 1980s, and obviously loyalty to Bush trumped intellectual firepower. Finally, the Miers pick cements the idea that Bush is politically weak and scared of a major fight with Democrats. As Bill Kristol just pointed out on Fox, this choice will be depressing to conservatives at exactly the moment when they were looking to be bucked up by the president.
For instance economic conservatives pleased by her corporate law background may find it distressing that in 1990 Miers voted for a 7 percent property tax increase during her short tenure on the Dallas City Council. And Miers's long affiliation with the ABA will serve up lots of interesting tidbits that are unlikely to please social and legal conservatives. For instance, she apparently submitted the following report to the ABA's House of Delegates. Here are two of the report's recommendations:

Supports the enactment of laws and public policy which provide that sexual orientation shall not be a bar to adoption when the adoption is determined to be in the best interest of the child. ...

Recommends the development and establishment of an International Criminal Court.





he's just taken a big fat shit on his base. I think we'll have a democrat controlled house in '06
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 11:21:58 AM EDT
WTF????????


Gay Parents and ICC???


How is this shit MODERATE?


I fear her stance on RKBA

This sucks.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 11:24:30 AM EDT

As president of the Texas State Bar in 1993, Harriet Miers urged the national American Bar Association to put the abortion issue to a referendum of the group's full membership. She questioned at the time whether the ABA should "be trying to speak for the entire legal community" on an issue that she said "has brought on tremendous divisiveness" within the ABA.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 11:36:21 AM EDT
Ugghhh.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 11:38:53 AM EDT
The support for the ICC is enough for me.

"Burn her!"
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 11:40:50 AM EDT
She sounds like a real turd so far.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 11:43:26 AM EDT
you're all hatefull bush bashers

shame on you

Link Posted: 10/3/2005 11:44:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Red_Beard:
you're all hatefull bush bashers

shame on you




Not I.


As president of the Texas State Bar in 1993, Harriet Miers urged the national American Bar Association to put the abortion issue to a referendum of the group's full membership. She questioned at the time whether the ABA should "be trying to speak for the entire legal community" on an issue that she said "has brought on tremendous divisiveness" within the ABA.

Link Posted: 10/3/2005 11:44:36 AM EDT
Chuck Schumer is happy with her selection; therefore I am not.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 11:45:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Red_Beard:
you're all hatefull bush bashers

shame on you



Change the party from within.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 11:45:59 AM EDT
BUSH BUSH BUSH BUSH BUSH!!!

THIS is why I was told I *had* to vote for Bush...

Nice.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 11:46:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By gigmike:
Chuck Schumer is happy with her selection; therefore I am not.



Quite a reasonable approach.

If Schumer is not hopping mad, then its a bad appointment, period.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 11:48:02 AM EDT
Once Schumer et al find out about her, their opinions will change.


As president of the Texas State Bar in 1993, Harriet Miers urged the national American Bar Association to put the abortion issue to a referendum of the group's full membership. She questioned at the time whether the ABA should "be trying to speak for the entire legal community" on an issue that she said "has brought on tremendous divisiveness" within the ABA.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 11:52:11 AM EDT
Paging bushbots....
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 11:53:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/3/2005 11:54:37 AM EDT by raven]

Originally Posted By TheCynic:
The support for the ICC is enough for me.

"Burn her!"



+1. The raison d'etre of the ICC is to nail Americans. They really dont give a damn about folks like Saddam or Milosevic or Mugabe. American or Israeli politicans and generals though, they slobber over.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 11:54:32 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 11:59:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GonzoAR15-1:

Originally Posted By gigmike:
Chuck Schumer is happy with her selection; therefore I am not.



Quite a reasonable approach.

If Schumer is not hopping mad, then its a bad appointment, period.



Chuck Schumer had nothing bad to say about Antonin Scalia in 1986, while Schumer was still in the House. So much for that litmus test...
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 12:00:07 PM EDT
She is pro-life, therefore, she will not make it past the hearings.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 12:13:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PAEBR332:

Originally Posted By GonzoAR15-1:

Originally Posted By gigmike:
Chuck Schumer is happy with her selection; therefore I am not.



Quite a reasonable approach.

If Schumer is not hopping mad, then its a bad appointment, period.



Chuck Schumer had nothing bad to say about Antonin Scalia in 1986, while Schumer was still in the House. So much for that litmus test...



What was the point in Schumer saying anything at all while he was in the House? As a member of the House, his opinion means jack shit becasue they don't get to advise or consent
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 12:16:06 PM EDT
Damn
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 12:31:38 PM EDT
Vundubar.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 3:30:15 PM EDT
bump
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 3:36:19 PM EDT
Does she herself support Gay Adoptions or has she simply said that she doesn't think the Federal Government has the power to prevent them?

If the latter, I would support her. If the former she shouldn't be considered.

Ditto for abortion.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 3:40:53 PM EDT
And this surprises you because....?

You reelected a socialist, you got a socialist. Good job.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 3:43:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thedave1164:
Paging bushbots....



Paging idiots.................never mind I found one Hi dave LOL
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 3:47:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/3/2005 3:48:20 PM EDT by _DR]
Q: What's worse than a flaming liberal?

A: A closet liberal that appears to be a conservative until you really need them.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 3:50:11 PM EDT
The leftist blogs I read while doing research on Meirs are about 50/50 split on her. Same as here.
Fact is, no one really knows at this point.
Question is, will we find out before she write's a decision?

Bush stated unequivocally that she would rule as a strict constructionist, if that's true we are golden.

Dont forget, what she wrote in those reports is opinion that didnt have to be guided by an interpretation of the constitution.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 3:54:57 PM EDT
BTW, I see that Bill Kristol is beside himself with this
choice. He is the biggest Presidential ass-sniffing,
sychophant of them all and if he is disappointed, then
we all should be.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 4:11:57 PM EDT
Rush isn't happy either:



RUSH: All right, ladies and gentlemen, let me just cut to the chase here. I, in the end, I have a lot of problems with this, but I don't know what I actually ultimately am going to think of this for a while. But, like everybody, it's hard to resist the pull to be angry. It's hard to resist the pull to be depressed over this. And let me give you my reasons why, on the negative side first, because I think that's probably right now more reasons I feel that way than otherwise. Just last week on this program we were talking about making decisions from a position of weakness versus a position of strength and I think the choice of Harriet Miers -- and I don't know the woman (story). I first heard her name last week or whatever it was, ten days ago when her name was thrown in the hopper as possibilities, and you know, I don't pay attention to that because everybody's name gets thrown in the hopper and so many people claim to have inside knowledge and sources that I really pay very little attention to that. I just wait for the choice to be made, and it just seems to me that at the outset here that this is a pick that was made from weakness. There was an opportunity here to show strength and confidence, and I don't think this is it. There are plenty of known quantities out there who would be superb for the court. This is a nominee that we don't know anything about, a nominee purposely chosen in one context, we don't know anything about her. It makes her less of a target but it also does not show a position of strength.


http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_100305/content/america_s_anchorman.guest.html

Link Posted: 10/3/2005 4:20:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By gigmike:
Chuck Schumer is happy with her selection; therefore I am not.




That says a lot right there. Never mind what she stands for, if the Libleft approves, its a disaster!
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 4:26:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fourays2:

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:


SOME QUICK THOUGHTS ON HARRIET MIERS
This pick reinforces several traits Bush doesn't want reinforced right now. It's a pro-business pick. In Texas Miers specialized in "commercial litigation, including antitrust and trade regulations and intellectual property disputes" according to this bio. It's a pro-crony pick. She was Bush's personal lawyer as far back as the 1980s, and obviously loyalty to Bush trumped intellectual firepower. Finally, the Miers pick cements the idea that Bush is politically weak and scared of a major fight with Democrats. As Bill Kristol just pointed out on Fox, this choice will be depressing to conservatives at exactly the moment when they were looking to be bucked up by the president.
For instance economic conservatives pleased by her corporate law background may find it distressing that in 1990 Miers voted for a 7 percent property tax increase during her short tenure on the Dallas City Council. And Miers's long affiliation with the ABA will serve up lots of interesting tidbits that are unlikely to please social and legal conservatives. For instance, she apparently submitted the following report to the ABA's House of Delegates. Here are two of the report's recommendations:

Supports the enactment of laws and public policy which provide that sexual orientation shall not be a bar to adoption when the adoption is determined to be in the best interest of the child. ...

Recommends the development and establishment of an International Criminal Court.





he's just taken a big fat shit on his base. I think we'll have a democrat controlled house in '06



Yep.

He really has taken a big old crap on his base support.

Talk about a limp dick President.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 4:40:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/3/2005 4:45:54 PM EDT by Black_Talon]
At least it isn't Mr. Gonzalez
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 4:45:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Black_Talon:
At least it isn't Mr. Gonzalez YET

Link Posted: 10/3/2005 5:01:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fourays2:

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:


SOME QUICK THOUGHTS ON HARRIET MIERS
This pick reinforces several traits Bush doesn't want reinforced right now. It's a pro-business pick. In Texas Miers specialized in "commercial litigation, including antitrust and trade regulations and intellectual property disputes" according to this bio. It's a pro-crony pick. She was Bush's personal lawyer as far back as the 1980s, and obviously loyalty to Bush trumped intellectual firepower. Finally, the Miers pick cements the idea that Bush is politically weak and scared of a major fight with Democrats. As Bill Kristol just pointed out on Fox, this choice will be depressing to conservatives at exactly the moment when they were looking to be bucked up by the president.
For instance economic conservatives pleased by her corporate law background may find it distressing that in 1990 Miers voted for a 7 percent property tax increase during her short tenure on the Dallas City Council. And Miers's long affiliation with the ABA will serve up lots of interesting tidbits that are unlikely to please social and legal conservatives. For instance, she apparently submitted the following report to the ABA's House of Delegates. Here are two of the report's recommendations:

Supports the enactment of laws and public policy which provide that sexual orientation shall not be a bar to adoption when the adoption is determined to be in the best interest of the child. ...

Recommends the development and establishment of an International Criminal Court.





he's just taken a big fat shit on his base. I think we'll have a democrat controlled house in '06



Sadly, he has not. Bush did this to appease the Jerry Falwell anti-abortion crowd (not that there is anything wrong with that) for not nominating a stronger anti-abortion cantidate than Roberts. Other than the fact that she had tried to get the ABA to put their stance on abortion to a referrendum (not necessarily reverse it), nothing concrete is known about this broad.

McClellan was dropping little hints that the right would be pleased with this (as in the religous right) nomination.

I think that she should be disqualified just based on the fact that she has never been a judge anywhere for any amount of time. This is the highest court in the nation. You can't just go pick some ambulance chaser and stick him up there. Judge Judy is better qualified than Mier is.

This is just another Bush Fuck up.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 6:16:56 PM EDT
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