Does anyone know about these?  I'm going to order one or the other soon.

First Model, made by Hand Gun Safe:

[URL=http://www.handgunsafe.com/wall_safe.htm]www.handgunsafe.com/wall_safe.htm[/URL]
 [IMG]http://www.handgunsafe.com/wallsafe4.jpg[/IMG]  
 [IMG]http://www.handgunsafe.com/wallopen.jpg[/IMG]  
This model can be mounted with the door swinging either way - I need the hinges to be on the right.  It cost [b]$197 + $16 s/h[/b].  Weighs 29 pounds, 3/16 inch steel.

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This is the second model, made by v-line:
[URL=http://www.vlineind.com/html/quick_vault.html]http://www.vlineind.com/html/quick_vault.html[/URL]
 [IMG]http://www.vlineind.com/assets/images/wsnet.jpg[/IMG]  
And can be ordered thru the Long Island Shooting Club for [b]$179.95[/b] shipping included.  Weighs 20 pounds, 3/8" steel.
I don't know if this one can be mounted the opposite way (with the hinges on the right).

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This will be used to hold one or two handguns.  I already have a good safe that with better locks.  This new one will be hidden from view and keep stuff away from kids, but still have almost-instant access.

Looks like model #2 is thicker steel but weighs less?  Sizes are about the same, 12x14".  BUT, if model #2 cannot be mounted with the hinges on the right, it won't work.  Model #2 also comes with a removable shelf that looks like it can only work with hinges on the left.  

Does anyone use either of these and any good?

Any input would be appreciated,
Thanks, Blackie

[This message has been edited by AR BLACK (edited 08-08-2001).]

If money is not the issue, get a full blown gun vault.  Then you have room for rifles, pistols ammo, jewelry, finacial papers, legal docs, whatever.

[beer]

I'd also take a look at the gun locker/rifle locker.

[url]http://www.gunlocker.com/specs.htm[/url]

The rifle locker gives you the advantage of having up to four long guns close by with quick access.Plus you can open it with either a key or the keypad combo.

First, lets try these links again:

[URL]http://www.handgunsafe.com/wall_safe.htm[/URL]

[URL]http://www.vlineind.com/html/quick_vault.html[/URL]

Second:
HighlandMack:  I already have a big safe.  Just looking for info on these.

schnacke:  Thanks for the link, but still want info on the first two.

Blackie

I would recomend anything manufactured by the first company, R&D Enterprises.  I have two of their quick access handgun boxes, one I use for safe storage, the other I use in my Personal Protection class.  They make a first class product.  Also, look at the weight difference, 29lbs vs 20lbs.  [b][i]What's up with the 3/8" steel claim on the second one?  Gotta be a typo, or a composite construction.[/i][/b]

Jack:  thanks for the info... that's the stuff I'm looking for.

I just caught the 3/8" statement.  From their website:  
[i]3/8" thick steel lock block adds strength to lock.[/i]
Note the [b]lock block[/b] is actually 3/8", they don't actually say how thick the steel is on the rest of the safe.  Very sneaky advertising if you ask me.

OK, I'm going for the R&D Enterprises Hand Gun Safe (picture #1).