[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Had First Baffle Strike (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 9/24/2016 4:36:36 PM EDT
Been shooting my DD rifle suppressed since 2008 and sadly had my first baffle strike yesterday.
Really has not been a good week for me. Auto accident on Tuesday and now my Surefire can toasted Friday night. |
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Figure out what caused it? also, what is the repair process for this? I'd assume surefire will repair it.... how does it work? Not as of yet. I was using American Eagle .223 55 Grain that I just picked up from PSA. There were a total of 90 rounds fired spaced out over a duration of an hour and a half. The can did get hot when I let a kid try out my AR, as he had never fired a rifle with a suppressor before, but it wasn't a mag dump. He only shot 30 rounds in the course of 2 minutes. The strike happened 5 minutes after that, during some slow braced shooting. |
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Figure out what caused it? also, what is the repair process for this? I'd assume surefire will repair it.... how does it work? Not entirely sure, I've never had to contact Surefire for a repair yet and they are closed today. I'll be calling them Monday and seeing if they can do anything about this. |
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Not as of yet. I was using American Eagle .223 55 Grain that I just picked up from PSA. There were a total of 90 rounds fired spaced out over a duration of an hour and a half. The can did get hot when I let a kid try out my AR, as he had never fired a rifle with a suppressor before, but it wasn't a mag dump. He only shot 30 rounds in the course of 2 minutes. The strike happened 5 minutes after that, during some slow braced shooting. Quoted:
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Figure out what caused it? also, what is the repair process for this? I'd assume surefire will repair it.... how does it work? Not as of yet. I was using American Eagle .223 55 Grain that I just picked up from PSA. There were a total of 90 rounds fired spaced out over a duration of an hour and a half. The can did get hot when I let a kid try out my AR, as he had never fired a rifle with a suppressor before, but it wasn't a mag dump. He only shot 30 rounds in the course of 2 minutes. The strike happened 5 minutes after that, during some slow braced shooting. how many rounds do you have down the barrel and when was the last time you cleaned the rifle? |
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Not as of yet. I was using American Eagle .223 55 Grain that I just picked up from PSA. There were a total of 90 rounds fired spaced out over a duration of an hour and a half. The can did get hot when I let a kid try out my AR, as he had never fired a rifle with a suppressor before, but it wasn't a mag dump. He only shot 30 rounds in the course of 2 minutes. The strike happened 5 minutes after that, during some slow braced shooting. Quoted:
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Figure out what caused it? also, what is the repair process for this? I'd assume surefire will repair it.... how does it work? Not as of yet. I was using American Eagle .223 55 Grain that I just picked up from PSA. There were a total of 90 rounds fired spaced out over a duration of an hour and a half. The can did get hot when I let a kid try out my AR, as he had never fired a rifle with a suppressor before, but it wasn't a mag dump. He only shot 30 rounds in the course of 2 minutes. The strike happened 5 minutes after that, during some slow braced shooting. If it turns out to be the ammo, Federal will act like a bunch of bitches. Surefire should be able to fix it. They'd likely chop the end cap, replace it and the baffle stack. I don't know much about their warranty. But I'm sure they can fix it. |
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Had a strike on my specwar. Sico fixed it no questions asked. Quoted:
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Had a baffel strike on my osprey once, not nearly as bad as yours, but sico took care of me. Had a strike on my specwar. Sico fixed it no questions asked. That's why I went with SiCo for my rifle can. That and the stellite baffles. |
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how many rounds do you have down the barrel and when was the last time you cleaned the rifle? Quoted:
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Figure out what caused it? also, what is the repair process for this? I'd assume surefire will repair it.... how does it work? Not as of yet. I was using American Eagle .223 55 Grain that I just picked up from PSA. There were a total of 90 rounds fired spaced out over a duration of an hour and a half. The can did get hot when I let a kid try out my AR, as he had never fired a rifle with a suppressor before, but it wasn't a mag dump. He only shot 30 rounds in the course of 2 minutes. The strike happened 5 minutes after that, during some slow braced shooting. how many rounds do you have down the barrel and when was the last time you cleaned the rifle? Only a couple thousand down this barrel, changed it out with a new one earlier this year. I cleaned the barrel two weeks ago. |
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My understanding is that as long as the tube wasn't damaged, then everything else can be replaced. The tube is the serialized part and you're fucked if that goes. Now, as to what it's going to cost you, that's hard to say. May end up being as much as a new suppressor, but without the wait time and tax stamp. Then again, no telling how long it will take them to repair. |
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My understanding is that as long as the tube wasn't damaged, then everything else can be replaced. The tube is the serialized part and you're fucked if that goes. Now, as to what it's going to cost you, that's hard to say. May end up being as much as a new suppressor, but without the wait time and tax stamp. Then again, no telling how long it will take them to repair. True enough. The tube is entirely fine, no bulges or holes in it. Only the end cap, and the baffles, suffered. I'll be calling Surefire on Monday for sure and asking what they are able to do/how much it will cost. |
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My understanding is that as long as the tube wasn't damaged, then everything else can be replaced. The tube is the serialized part and you're fucked if that goes. Now, as to what it's going to cost you, that's hard to say. May end up being as much as a new suppressor, but without the wait time and tax stamp. Then again, no telling how long it will take them to repair. I don't doubt you're right but that doesn't make sense. If the tube is fucked, why can't surefire destroy the original tube so it can never be used again, and then ship back a brand new one with an identical serial number? |
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I don't doubt you're right but that doesn't make sense. If the tube is fucked, why can't surefire destroy the original tube so it can never be used again, and then ship back a brand new one with an identical serial number? Quoted:
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My understanding is that as long as the tube wasn't damaged, then everything else can be replaced. The tube is the serialized part and you're fucked if that goes. Now, as to what it's going to cost you, that's hard to say. May end up being as much as a new suppressor, but without the wait time and tax stamp. Then again, no telling how long it will take them to repair. I don't doubt you're right but that doesn't make sense. If the tube is fucked, why can't surefire destroy the original tube so it can never be used again, and then ship back a brand new one with an identical serial number? Because it's illegal. |
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My understanding is that as long as the tube wasn't damaged, then everything else can be replaced. The tube is the serialized part and you're fucked if that goes. Now, as to what it's going to cost you, that's hard to say. May end up being as much as a new suppressor, but without the wait time and tax stamp. Then again, no telling how long it will take them to repair. I don't doubt you're right but that doesn't make sense. If the tube is fucked, why can't surefire destroy the original tube so it can never be used again, and then ship back a brand new one with an identical serial number? Because it's illegal. I'm talking out of my ass here but I read somewhere there is a process for this that the SOT can file paper work and replace a serialized part as part of a repair. I'm not one, but have read they can do that |
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My understanding is that as long as the tube wasn't damaged, then everything else can be replaced. The tube is the serialized part and you're fucked if that goes. Now, as to what it's going to cost you, that's hard to say. May end up being as much as a new suppressor, but without the wait time and tax stamp. Then again, no telling how long it will take them to repair. I don't doubt you're right but that doesn't make sense. If the tube is fucked, why can't surefire destroy the original tube so it can never be used again, and then ship back a brand new one with an identical serial number? Because it's illegal. Why is it illegal? If you crush the original can first, then create a new one, there's only ever one can in existence with the serial number. I don't doubt you but I'm trying to understand why |
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Why is it illegal? If you crush the original can first, then create a new one, there's only ever one can in existence with the serial number. I don't doubt you but I'm trying to understand why Quoted:
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My understanding is that as long as the tube wasn't damaged, then everything else can be replaced. The tube is the serialized part and you're fucked if that goes. Now, as to what it's going to cost you, that's hard to say. May end up being as much as a new suppressor, but without the wait time and tax stamp. Then again, no telling how long it will take them to repair. I don't doubt you're right but that doesn't make sense. If the tube is fucked, why can't surefire destroy the original tube so it can never be used again, and then ship back a brand new one with an identical serial number? Because it's illegal. Why is it illegal? If you crush the original can first, then create a new one, there's only ever one can in existence with the serial number. I don't doubt you but I'm trying to understand why Because atf |
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Why is it illegal? If you crush the original can first, then create a new one, there's only ever one can in existence with the serial number. I don't doubt you but I'm trying to understand why Quoted:
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My understanding is that as long as the tube wasn't damaged, then everything else can be replaced. The tube is the serialized part and you're fucked if that goes. Now, as to what it's going to cost you, that's hard to say. May end up being as much as a new suppressor, but without the wait time and tax stamp. Then again, no telling how long it will take them to repair. I don't doubt you're right but that doesn't make sense. If the tube is fucked, why can't surefire destroy the original tube so it can never be used again, and then ship back a brand new one with an identical serial number? Because it's illegal. Why is it illegal? If you crush the original can first, then create a new one, there's only ever one can in existence with the serial number. I don't doubt you but I'm trying to understand why Because NFA laws are fucked up. |
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Why is it illegal? If you crush the original can first, then create a new one, there's only ever one can in existence with the serial number. I don't doubt you but I'm trying to understand why Quoted:
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My understanding is that as long as the tube wasn't damaged, then everything else can be replaced. The tube is the serialized part and you're fucked if that goes. Now, as to what it's going to cost you, that's hard to say. May end up being as much as a new suppressor, but without the wait time and tax stamp. Then again, no telling how long it will take them to repair. I don't doubt you're right but that doesn't make sense. If the tube is fucked, why can't surefire destroy the original tube so it can never be used again, and then ship back a brand new one with an identical serial number? Because it's illegal. Why is it illegal? If you crush the original can first, then create a new one, there's only ever one can in existence with the serial number. I don't doubt you but I'm trying to understand why Because the ATF says so. Don't try to understand the government, they make no sense. |
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Because the ATF says so. Don't try to understand the government, they make no sense. Quoted:
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My understanding is that as long as the tube wasn't damaged, then everything else can be replaced. The tube is the serialized part and you're fucked if that goes. Now, as to what it's going to cost you, that's hard to say. May end up being as much as a new suppressor, but without the wait time and tax stamp. Then again, no telling how long it will take them to repair. I don't doubt you're right but that doesn't make sense. If the tube is fucked, why can't surefire destroy the original tube so it can never be used again, and then ship back a brand new one with an identical serial number? Because it's illegal. Why is it illegal? If you crush the original can first, then create a new one, there's only ever one can in existence with the serial number. I don't doubt you but I'm trying to understand why Because the ATF says so. Don't try to understand the government, they make no sense. Of all the tarded things..... 
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Been shooting my DD rifle suppressed since 2008 and sadly had my first baffle strike yesterday. http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff466/Zerlak/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160924_131616.jpg http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff466/Zerlak/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160924_131633.jpg http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff466/Zerlak/IMG_20160924_133147.jpg Really has not been a good week for me. Auto accident on Tuesday and now my Surefire can toasted Friday night. Excellent opportunity to replace your old surefire with a nice new product. |
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Why is it illegal? If you crush the original can first, then create a new one, there's only ever one can in existence with the serial number. I don't doubt you but I'm trying to understand why Quoted:
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My understanding is that as long as the tube wasn't damaged, then everything else can be replaced. The tube is the serialized part and you're fucked if that goes. Now, as to what it's going to cost you, that's hard to say. May end up being as much as a new suppressor, but without the wait time and tax stamp. Then again, no telling how long it will take them to repair. I don't doubt you're right but that doesn't make sense. If the tube is fucked, why can't surefire destroy the original tube so it can never be used again, and then ship back a brand new one with an identical serial number? Because it's illegal. Why is it illegal? If you crush the original can first, then create a new one, there's only ever one can in existence with the serial number. I don't doubt you but I'm trying to understand why ATF doesn't allow it. |
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ATF doesn't allow it. Quoted:
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My understanding is that as long as the tube wasn't damaged, then everything else can be replaced. The tube is the serialized part and you're fucked if that goes. Now, as to what it's going to cost you, that's hard to say. May end up being as much as a new suppressor, but without the wait time and tax stamp. Then again, no telling how long it will take them to repair. I don't doubt you're right but that doesn't make sense. If the tube is fucked, why can't surefire destroy the original tube so it can never be used again, and then ship back a brand new one with an identical serial number? Because it's illegal. Why is it illegal? If you crush the original can first, then create a new one, there's only ever one can in existence with the serial number. I don't doubt you but I'm trying to understand why ATF doesn't allow it. It's all arbitrary defined in a bunch of vaguely consistent and occasionally contradictory ATF opinion letters. |
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Of all the tarded things.....
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I don't doubt you're right but that doesn't make sense. If the tube is fucked, why can't surefire destroy the original tube so it can never be used again, and then ship back a brand new one with an identical serial number? Because it's illegal. Why is it illegal? If you crush the original can first, then create a new one, there's only ever one can in existence with the serial number. I don't doubt you but I'm trying to understand why Because the ATF says so. Don't try to understand the government, they make no sense. Of all the tarded things.....
Thanks for the people that responded Never try to make sense of government. Kind of like how tax law is completely fucked and nonsense, while GAAP is based upon logic. |
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Excellent opportunity to replace your old surefire with a nice new product. Quoted:
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Been shooting my DD rifle suppressed since 2008 and sadly had my first baffle strike yesterday. http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff466/Zerlak/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160924_131616.jpg http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff466/Zerlak/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160924_131633.jpg http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff466/Zerlak/IMG_20160924_133147.jpg Really has not been a good week for me. Auto accident on Tuesday and now my Surefire can toasted Friday night. Excellent opportunity to replace your old surefire with a nice new product. I actually did submit a tax stamp on a new SOCOM 556 can, from Surefire, just before 41F went into effect. Problem is, that will be a long while, until the stamp clears. I do have a 7.62 can to use, during the down time of my current can being out, but I'm hoping Surefire can still repair this one. I'm a bit worried though, as they probably haven't been making the Legacy 556-212 baffle stack now for a few years. |
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Had a bad strike with my YHM phantom - they took great care of me - at a very reasonable cost. Surefire unfortunately, has a reputation for saying that can's are disposable and so you MAY have some issues with them. I have a 9MM multi-mount that has serious POI shift with multiple adapters (3 lug allows it to be pin pointed). They told me it happens. No quite what I expected. The machining is trash. Stalking Rhino has me on a list. Until them I wait. |
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I actually did submit a tax stamp on a new SOCOM 556 can, from Surefire, just before 41F went into effect. Problem is, that will be a long while, until the stamp clears. I do have a 7.62 can to use, during the down time of my current can being out, but I'm hoping Surefire can still repair this one. I'm a bit worried though, as they probably haven't been making the Legacy 556-212 baffle stack now for a few years. Quoted:
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Been shooting my DD rifle suppressed since 2008 and sadly had my first baffle strike yesterday. http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff466/Zerlak/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160924_131616.jpg http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff466/Zerlak/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160924_131633.jpg http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff466/Zerlak/IMG_20160924_133147.jpg Really has not been a good week for me. Auto accident on Tuesday and now my Surefire can toasted Friday night. Excellent opportunity to replace your old surefire with a nice new product. I actually did submit a tax stamp on a new SOCOM 556 can, from Surefire, just before 41F went into effect. Problem is, that will be a long while, until the stamp clears. I do have a 7.62 can to use, during the down time of my current can being out, but I'm hoping Surefire can still repair this one. I'm a bit worried though, as they probably haven't been making the Legacy 556-212 baffle stack now for a few years. Manufactures often use newer baffle stack designs during repairs. They are even allowed, per one random opinion letter to shorten but not lengthen the tube, to facilitate repairs. My understanding is that a different FFL could even re-core your suppressor. I suppose it comes down to what Surefire has spares for, what's compatable and what they are willing to repair. |
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Manufactures often use newer baffle stack designs during repairs. They are even allowed, per one random opinion letter to shorten but not lengthen the tube, to facilitate repairs. My understanding is that a different FFL could even re-core your suppressor. I suppose it comes down to what Surefire has spares for, what's compatable and what they are willing to repair. Quoted:
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Been shooting my DD rifle suppressed since 2008 and sadly had my first baffle strike yesterday. http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff466/Zerlak/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160924_131616.jpg http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff466/Zerlak/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160924_131633.jpg http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff466/Zerlak/IMG_20160924_133147.jpg Really has not been a good week for me. Auto accident on Tuesday and now my Surefire can toasted Friday night. Excellent opportunity to replace your old surefire with a nice new product. I actually did submit a tax stamp on a new SOCOM 556 can, from Surefire, just before 41F went into effect. Problem is, that will be a long while, until the stamp clears. I do have a 7.62 can to use, during the down time of my current can being out, but I'm hoping Surefire can still repair this one. I'm a bit worried though, as they probably haven't been making the Legacy 556-212 baffle stack now for a few years. Manufactures often use newer baffle stack designs during repairs. They are even allowed, per one random opinion letter to shorten but not lengthen the tube, to facilitate repairs. My understanding is that a different FFL could even re-core your suppressor. I suppose it comes down to what Surefire has spares for, what's compatable and what they are willing to repair. Guess I'll just have to wait until Monday, to find out directly from Surefire, on what they are willing to do. |
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Not entirely sure, I've never had to contact Surefire for a repair yet and they are closed today. I'll be calling them Monday and seeing if they can do anything about this. Quoted:
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Figure out what caused it? also, what is the repair process for this? I'd assume surefire will repair it.... how does it work? Not entirely sure, I've never had to contact Surefire for a repair yet and they are closed today. I'll be calling them Monday and seeing if they can do anything about this. Surefire fucking sucks. My co-worker's/good friend's duty SF light went out, ended up being the battery cap was bad and SF knew it. It would have been awesome if they said, "sure, we'll send you another battery cap." And even if they had to charge him, maybe their cost for the part? Nope! They wanted 50.00 for this shitty cap. He told them to piss off, that was half the cost of the light, and shit canned the SF light. I'm interested to see how they end up helping this situation. I hope I'm wrong for the OP's sake, but don't have any high hopes. |
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Nope, was on as tight as possible. Quoted:
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Did it come loose? Nope, was on as tight as possible. Did you shoot a lot very quickly? From what I understand is you can get them so hot the lead in the bullet begins to melt causing it to become unstable and getting a strike. |
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Did you shoot a lot very quickly? From what I understand is you can get them so hot the lead in the bullet begins to melt causing it to become unstable and getting a strike. Quoted:
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Did it come loose? Nope, was on as tight as possible. Did you shoot a lot very quickly? From what I understand is you can get them so hot the lead in the bullet begins to melt causing it to become unstable and getting a strike. Nope, was not very fast at all. I've done a lot more rapid shots, on different days, and had no issues at all. |