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Posted: 8/11/2016 10:27:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/11/2016 10:28:31 PM EDT
[#1]
Inbeforethehate
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Posted: 8/11/2016 10:31:03 PM EDT
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HK handgun owner/CCW guy checking in:
HK rifles are not worth it for the coin. |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 10:32:19 PM EDT
[#3]
How much are they? North of 2k and you can get a E3 mod 2.
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Posted: 8/11/2016 10:33:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/11/2016 10:35:08 PM EDT
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Blah blah blah SEALS blah blah blah piston blah blah blah Costa
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Posted: 8/11/2016 10:37:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/11/2016 10:39:34 PM EDT
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How much are they? North of 2k and you can get a E3 mod 2. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile $2,900 at buds. |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 10:39:35 PM EDT
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Junk. Overpriced, too heavy, neutered internals, shitty barrel.
You can build or buy a much, much better rifle for half the cost. |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 10:43:03 PM EDT
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What's it do for me besides lighten my wallet better than a regular old non-HK rifle?
It's an AR. Saying HK on the side doesn't make it any different. Sure, it's piston operated....so what? |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 10:43:46 PM EDT
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Junk. Overpriced, too heavy, neutered internals, shitty barrel. You can build or buy a much, much better rifle for half the cost. Seekins for half, KAC for 25% less. |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 10:44:42 PM EDT
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$2,900 at buds. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How much are they? North of 2k and you can get a E3 mod 2. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile $2,900 at buds. Whew, I'd pass. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 10:49:54 PM EDT
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Arfcom has been hating on HK stuff for the last 15 years and SF groups have been using HK stuff for the last 15 years.
Who are you gonna trust; SF guys or GD guys 
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Posted: 8/11/2016 10:49:55 PM EDT
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Nope. HK should stick to handguns and SMGs. Their rifles have always been inferior to the competition in some form or another, all while costing more. As well as their LMGs.
Basically handguns, MP5s, MP7s, and M320s. |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 10:52:15 PM EDT
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No. It's also missing a lot of features from the 416.
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Posted: 8/11/2016 10:55:38 PM EDT
[#15]
Didn't the guys from Battlefield Las Vegas say it sucks.
Shot out the barrel way too quick |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 10:56:18 PM EDT
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Arfcom has been hating on HK stuff for the last 15 years and SF groups have been using HK stuff for the last 15 years. Who are you gonna trust; SF guys or GD guys You know why we didn't shave, wore boots that don't jive with 670-1, and used whatever accessories we wanted on our weapons? Because we could. We were low on the carnivore totem, so that attitude only gets stronger as you go higher. Same reason SF was wearing Multicam when big army was in ACUs, then when big army got Multicam, SF went to woodland. Because they can. |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 10:56:31 PM EDT
[#17]
over priced
no thanks |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 10:58:48 PM EDT
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Arfcom has been hating on HK stuff for the last 15 years and SF groups have been using HK stuff for the last 15 years. Who are you gonna trust; SF guys or GD guys The mr556 is a neutered 416, not the same thing as what various SF groups use |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 10:59:41 PM EDT
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Junk. Overpriced, too heavy, neutered internals, shitty barrel. You can build or buy a much, much better rifle for half the cost. |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 11:07:19 PM EDT
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Buy a JP.
The under the radar best AR on the market. |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 11:08:05 PM EDT
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Didn't the guys from Battlefield Las Vegas say it sucks. Shot out the barrel way too quick Yep. Barrel was smoked quickly. |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 11:10:21 PM EDT
[#22]
I carry a HK, but I'd rather spend that money on a KAC when it comes to carbines.
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Posted: 8/11/2016 11:10:41 PM EDT
[#23]
I want one.
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Posted: 8/11/2016 11:11:30 PM EDT
[#24]
Buying it cheap and flipping it during panics is just about what it's good for.
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Posted: 8/11/2016 11:14:12 PM EDT
[#25]
I don't like my HK stuff:
If I were to do it again, I wouldn't have bought it. |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 11:14:30 PM EDT
[#26]
If it were $2,000 I could see myself maybe one day saving up to buy one. More expensive than that the novelty doesn't become worth it any more.
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Posted: 8/11/2016 11:25:55 PM EDT
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Arfcom has been hating on HK stuff for the last 15 years and SF groups have been using HK stuff for the last 15 years. Who are you gonna trust; SF guys or GD guys Tell me what it does better than a KAC rifle, or any other much cheaper option for that matter. Unless of course you're just suggesting it's good simply because SOF use something remotely similar to it. |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 11:30:30 PM EDT
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HK makes some good stuff, but they never make cost efficient stuff, which is why I don't own any of their stuff. Poor value proposition. Look at the mp5 pistols they are starting to put out there now. Almost double the price of clones. I also don't like their obsession with arming government's and only vague interest in the civvy market. Very telling to me.
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Posted: 8/11/2016 11:33:50 PM EDT
[#29]
My feeling is that if it came with a proper weight chrome lined barrel and A5 gas system, then it would be worth it. As is, no way.
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Posted: 8/11/2016 11:39:11 PM EDT
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My feeling is that if it came with a proper weight chrome lined barrel and A5 gas system, then it would be worth it. As is, no way. Say it did come with a barrel that's chrome lined and had an a5 buffer and was 3500. Still not worth it. I can build something way lighter and nicer for the coin. Imo. |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 11:42:09 PM EDT
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Junk. Overpriced, too heavy, neutered internals, shitty barrel. You can build or buy a much, much better rifle for half the cost. This, and I'm rather favorable to HK handguns. |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 11:42:46 PM EDT
[#32]
Could build way better for less than half.
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Posted: 8/11/2016 11:44:31 PM EDT
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Junk. Overpriced, too heavy, neutered internals, shitty barrel. You can build or buy a much, much better rifle for half the cost. Lulz. Never had a problem with carrying my 416 or accuracy issues
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Posted: 8/11/2016 11:51:39 PM EDT
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Nice guns but not nice enough,to justify the price.
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Posted: 8/12/2016 12:05:34 AM EDT
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Better options out there for the price.
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Posted: 8/12/2016 12:12:13 AM EDT
[#36]
Overpriced.
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Posted: 8/12/2016 12:16:57 AM EDT
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HK therefore over priced. Pretty much everything they make is at least 50% more than a comparable product from someone else. |
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Posted: 8/12/2016 12:18:01 AM EDT
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Arfcom has been hating on HK stuff for the last 15 years and SF groups have been using HK stuff for the last 15 years. Who are you gonna trust; SF guys or GD guys Are the SF guys buying with their own money? |
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Posted: 8/12/2016 12:21:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Arfcom has been hating on HK stuff for the last 15 years and SF groups have been using HK stuff for the last 15 years. Who are you gonna trust; SF guys or GD guys |
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Posted: 8/12/2016 12:31:58 AM EDT
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I carry a HK, but I'd rather spend that money on a KAC when it comes to carbines. I have a KAC CQB and its nothing special. |
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Posted: 8/12/2016 12:35:19 AM EDT
[#41]
I would buy a Knights long before I would buy an HK.
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Posted: 8/12/2016 12:40:28 AM EDT
[#42]
$$$$ Shiney! $$$$ |
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Posted: 8/12/2016 1:02:16 AM EDT
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How about SF guys on GD? HK416s are overly heavy and the locking lugs like to break off. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Arfcom has been hating on HK stuff for the last 15 years and SF groups have been using HK stuff for the last 15 years. Who are you gonna trust; SF guys or GD guys The bolt design of the AR15 is simultaneously one of it's best and worst features. Since the HK uses this same design I would expect it to exhibit some of the same flaws. |
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Posted: 8/12/2016 1:03:03 AM EDT
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For the low price of $2900, you get a barrel that is neither chrome-lined nor nitrided, and rifle that likely weighs over 10lbs with loaded mag and optic.
Knight's offers a better rifle, with more features, at a lower price. |
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Posted: 8/12/2016 1:06:12 AM EDT
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For the low price of $2900, you get a barrel that is neither chrome-lined nor nitrided, and rifle that likely weighs over 10lbs with loaded mag and optic. Knight's offers a better rifle, with more features, at a lower price. And the KAC is not a gay piston gun. |
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Posted: 8/12/2016 1:17:04 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/12/2016 1:22:12 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. Barrel was smoked quickly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Didn't the guys from Battlefield Las Vegas say it sucks. Shot out the barrel way too quick Yep. Barrel was smoked quickly. Have Marvin Pitts retrofit the upper for AR barrels. Profit. |
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Posted: 8/12/2016 1:27:59 AM EDT
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Define "overweight".
It weights close to the same as an M16A4 with optics. |
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Posted: 8/12/2016 1:31:40 AM EDT
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Arfcom has been hating on HK stuff for the last 15 years and SF groups have been using HK stuff for the last 15 years. Who are you gonna trust; SF guys or GD guys I'll trust my own experience. screw HK. |
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Posted: 8/12/2016 1:46:13 AM EDT
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I swear by HK pistols but I'd never buy one of their rifles.
My buddy is an ATF SRT door kicker type and I've played with his 10.5 inch 416 quite a bit. No issues, they love them, but it didn't function any better or worse than any other high end AR and he said the same thing. |
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