HIT THIS POLL - Should you be arrested for having a gun NEAR a bar?

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pangris Dad of Twins Joined Mar 2001 Posts 356 EE Offline LA, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 11:36:08 AM EST http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/feb/22/mayor_seeks_stricter_gun_law/?city_local Winning so far, but low numbers. NAIL IT!
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shawn21 Joined Jan 2006 Posts 1671 EE Offline KY, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 11:41:34 AM EST Yes 22% 72 votes No 77% 248 votes Undecided 0% 2 votes

DPRO556 Joined Feb 2006 Posts 173 EE Offline USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 11:41:41 AM EST Hit it! Should the city impose jail sentences for possessing guns near bars? Thanks for your vote. Yes 22% 72 votes No 76% 247 votes Undecided 0% 2 votes 321 total votes

jnojr Joined Feb 2005 Posts 813 EE Offline CA, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 11:42:28 AM EST Hey, I saw this somewhere before...

AKTactical Joined Jun 2005 Posts 182 EE Offline GA, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 11:43:48 AM EST Gotta love the power of the masses I love watching this board blow up these surveys

Rifleman556 Semper Vigilans Joined Jun 2006 Posts 237 EE Offline TN, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 11:44:18 AM EST Hit it.
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ElCapo Joined Jun 2004 Posts 191 EE Offline WA, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 11:44:53 AM EST Hit.

Tango7 Dirty minded pervert Joined Jul 2002 Posts 6752 EE Offline IL, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 11:45:29 AM EST Yes 21% 72 votes No 77% 259 votes Undecided 0% 2 votes 333 total votes Done.
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jmarkma Joined Jul 2004 Posts 2735 EE Offline GA, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 11:46:03 AM EST Yes 72 votes 21% 72 votes No 264 votes 78% 264 votes Undecided 2 votes 0% 2 votes

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Posted: 2/23/2007 12:00:35 PM EST

[Last Edit: 2/23/2007 12:00:54 PM EST by Tolip]

Should the city impose jail sentences for possessing guns near bars?
Thanks for your vote.

Yes 20% 73 votes
No 78% 282 votes
Undecided 0% 2 votes
357 total votes

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Posted: 2/23/2007 12:04:03 PM EST

I voted against but honestly it's no differant than anywhere else... there are multiple points of view

on 1 side , drunk bastard follows you out to your car and tries to rob you, you need somthing to drop the 300lb sasquatch

on the other side you got bar fights that turn ugly, drunk f^ck goes outside grabs a gun and kills other guy and anyone else who helped the other guy.

Side 3 , you witness drunk bastard assaulting woman in alleyway, you grab trusty firearm and apply the coup de grace to the back of his head "unless you want the attacker to get out of jail 2 days later and attack someone else"

Shadowstep Joined Sep 2006 Posts 529 EE Offline LA, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 12:04:48 PM EST just my $0.02

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Posted: 2/23/2007 12:14:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By Shadowstep:
I voted against but honestly it's no differant than anywhere else...

Nothing preventing me from CCW in a bar, so long as I don't consume alcohol.

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Thuban Joined Jan 2006 Posts 1813 EE Offline AL, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 12:16:08 PM EST Yes 19% 74 votes No 79% 300 votes Undecided 0%

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Posted: 2/23/2007 12:18:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By The_Reaper:

Originally Posted By Shadowstep:
I voted against but honestly it's no differant than anywhere else...

Nothing preventing me from CCW in a bar, so long as I don't consume alcohol.

Nothing preventing me from CCWing in a bar AND shitfaced drunk. Except common sense of course...

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Posted: 2/23/2007 12:18:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By The_Reaper:

Originally Posted By Shadowstep:
I voted against but honestly it's no differant than anywhere else...

Nothing preventing me from CCW in a bar, so long as I don't consume alcohol.

+1 and there is no reason you should be prevented. If I go to the bar to drink I leave the weapon at home, if I happen to stop by for a bite to eat or a quick conversation I don't drink. Some situations call for more fire power than whiskey power!

Q3131A PRNJ Escapee Joined Jan 2001 Posts 9222 EE Offline FL, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 12:19:53 PM EST Should the city impose jail sentences for possessing guns near bars? Thanks for your vote. Yes 19% 74 votes No 80% 309 votes Undecided 0% 2 votes 385 total votes
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MikeS369 ShredHead© Joined Sep 2004 Posts 1113 EE Offline LA, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 12:21:48 PM EST You want to make the streets safer? Nail all the drunks driving out of the bars parking lots.

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Posted: 2/23/2007 12:25:40 PM EST

Originally Posted By MikeS369:
You want to make the streets safer? Nail all the drunks driving out of the bars parking lots.

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Posted: 2/23/2007 12:26:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By MikeS369:
You want to make the streets safer? Nail all the drunks driving out of the bars parking lots.

aha he nailed it..

cops should just sit in the parking lots on their brake time eat lunch, notice a drunk about to drive off club his ass and call the paddy wagon.

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M4MikelA3

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Posted: 2/23/2007 12:37:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By Shadowstep:

Originally Posted By MikeS369:
You want to make the streets safer? Nail all the drunks driving out of the bars parking lots.

aha he nailed it..

cops should just sit in the parking lots on their brake time eat lunch, notice a drunk about to drive off club his ass and call the paddy wagon.

The cops here started setting up "license checks" a block down the road from a local club. The club owner sued(I don't remember what his grounds were) and won. Now the cops aren't allowed to conduct "license checks" there on weekends.

ardave Joined Mar 2003 Posts 167 EE Offline OH, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 12:37:56 PM EST Yes 75 votes 18% 75 votes No 336 votes 81% 336 votes Undecided 2 votes 0% 2 votes 413 total votes

MikeS369

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Posted: 2/23/2007 12:48:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By M4MikelA3:

Originally Posted By Shadowstep:

Originally Posted By MikeS369:
You want to make the streets safer? Nail all the drunks driving out of the bars parking lots.

aha he nailed it..

cops should just sit in the parking lots on their brake time eat lunch, notice a drunk about to drive off club his ass and call the paddy wagon.

The cops here started setting up "license checks" a block down the road from a local club. The club owner sued(I don't remember what his grounds were) and won. Now the cops aren't allowed to conduct "license checks" there on weekends.

Screw license checks. Just watch them drive out of the parking lot and pull them over for suspicion of drunk driving. Just say they were weaving.

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Posted: 2/23/2007 12:54:42 PM EST

[Last Edit: 2/23/2007 1:17:34 PM EST by M4MikelA3]

Originally Posted By MikeS369:

Originally Posted By M4MikelA3:

Originally Posted By Shadowstep:

Originally Posted By MikeS369:
You want to make the streets safer? Nail all the drunks driving out of the bars parking lots.

aha he nailed it..

cops should just sit in the parking lots on their brake time eat lunch, notice a drunk about to drive off club his ass and call the paddy wagon.

The cops here started setting up "license checks" a block down the road from a local club. The club owner sued(I don't remember what his grounds were) and won. Now the cops aren't allowed to conduct "license checks" there on weekends.

Screw license checks. Just watch them drive out of the parking lot and pull them over for suspicion of drunk driving. Just say they were weaving.

If they can't conduct license checks down the road a bit I bet they'd just get sued again for actually watching the parking lot.

I am all for police watching the parking lot, btw. I wouldn't mind if there was a cop with a portable breathalizer standing outside testing people as they leave. If they are drunk he gives them one warning, "if you walk over there and get behind a wheel the officers in the cruisers parked over there will arrest you".

I am all for civil liberties but I don't think being able to walk out of a bar drunk off your ass and drive away is one of them.

Willmar Joined Feb 2005 Posts 92 EE Offline LA, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 12:59:43 PM EST Yes 17% 77 votes No 82% 365 votes Undecided 0% 2 votes 444 total votes Note: This is not a scientific poll. The results reflect only the opinions of those who chose to participate.

Shadowstep

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Posted: 2/23/2007 12:59:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By M4MikelA3:

Originally Posted By MikeS369:

Originally Posted By M4MikelA3:

Originally Posted By Shadowstep:

Originally Posted By MikeS369:
You want to make the streets safer? Nail all the drunks driving out of the bars parking lots.

aha he nailed it..

cops should just sit in the parking lots on their brake time eat lunch, notice a drunk about to drive off club his ass and call the paddy wagon.

The cops here started setting up "license checks" a block down the road from a local club. The club owner sued(I don't remember what his grounds were) and won. Now the cops aren't allowed to conduct "license checks" there on weekends.

Screw license checks. Just watch them drive out of the parking lot and pull them over for suspicion of drunk driving. Just say they were weaving.

If they can't conduct license checks down the road a bit I bet they'd just get sued again for actually watching the parking lot.

I am all for police watching the parking lot, btw. I wouldn't mind if there was a cop with a portable breathalizer standing outside testing people as they leave. If they are drunk he gives them one warning, "if you walk over there and get behind a wheel the cruisers the officers parked over there will arrest you".

I am all for civil liberties but I don't think being able to walk out of a bar drunk off your ass and drive away is one of them.

Roger that.

If they notice them driving drunk, they should also tazer them for resisting common sense.

Bearwolf Joined Nov 2005 Posts 52 EE Offline PA, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 1:08:24 PM EST Yes 16% 77 votes No 82% 375 votes Undecided 0% 2 votes

hicap Joined Feb 2001 Posts 466 EE Offline GA, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 1:12:50 PM EST In GA you cannot have gun in an establishment that serves alcohol. while I dont necessarily agree with it, its the law. Probably makes sense - booze and guns dont mix.

maximak2 Joined Dec 2004 Posts 89 EE Offline IL, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 1:18:21 PM EST What happens when there are houses, apartments, condos with in 200ft of a bar? Does that mean that those who live there cannot keep a gun in their home? I wouldn't want to live with in 200 ft of a bar but for those in larger cities that could be a problem as there are bars every where.

themadhatter BRAIN DAMAGE Joined Jan 2001 Posts 3330 EE Offline VA, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 1:26:31 PM EST Should the city impose jail sentences for possessing guns near bars? Thanks for your vote. Yes 16% 77 votes No 83% 390 votes Undecided 0% 2 votes 469 total votes
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Covert8645 Rage Incarnate Joined Aug 2005 Posts 3028 EE Offline IN, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 1:31:15 PM EST Yes 16% 77 votes No 83% 400 votes Undecided 0% 2 votes 479 total votes
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anjan9 Joined Oct 2005 Posts 531 EE Offline	Posted: 2/23/2007 1:31:53 PM EST Should the city impose jail sentences for possessing guns near bars? Thanks for your vote. Yes 77 votes 16% 77 votes No 399 votes 83% 399 votes Undecided 2 votes 0% 2 votes 478 total votes

Shakes525

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Posted: 2/23/2007 1:36:19 PM EST

Originally Posted By Shadowstep:
I voted against but honestly it's no differant than anywhere else... there are multiple points of view

on 1 side , drunk bastard follows you out to your car and tries to rob you, you need somthing to drop the 300lb sasquatch

on the other side you got bar fights that turn ugly, drunk f^ck goes outside grabs a gun and kills other guy and anyone else who helped the other guy.

Side 3 , you witness drunk bastard assaulting woman in alleyway, you grab trusty firearm and apply the coup de grace to the back of his head "unless you want the attacker to get out of jail 2 days later and attack someone else"

Alot more situations than that though, and you know it'd get abused.

What if you had a CCW for work and left it in the car trying to be responsible?

What if you were an off duty officer (I realize this would never apply but it probably COULD).

what if you stopped after a day at the range with friends?

The gray area is WAY to big, and the gubment has already repeatedly shown they abuse that slack if you give it to'em

TrickyRicky72 Joined Mar 2005 Posts 255 EE Offline OH, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 1:36:57 PM EST

nightstalker Proud California Cracka' Joined Feb 2001 Posts 11157 EE Offline CA, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 1:44:06 PM EST Every time I walk past this particularly seedy bar I can hear my gun talking to me saying "come on, go on in and have a beer, you know you want to and anyway I'm here to protect you if you get in any trouble, right?"
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briansmithwins Joined Nov 2004 Posts 840 EE Offline OR, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 1:47:31 PM EST Not illegal to enter and bar AND drink here. If I'm planning on drinking to point of impairment, my pistol stays locked up, at home. BSW

One_Slayer Joined Jul 2001 Posts 679 EE Offline IN, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 1:51:41 PM EST I hit it.

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ready-aim-fire Member Joined Dec 2004 Posts 211 EE Offline NC, USA	Posted: 2/23/2007 2:10:26 PM EST Yes 80 votes 15% No 437 votes 84% Undecided 2 votes 0% 519 total votes Why would someone vote "undecided"? They actively chose to participate in the poll -- you'd think they would have an opinion.

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Posted: 2/23/2007 2:19:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By MikeS369:
You want to make the streets safer? Nail all the drunks driving out of the bars parking lots.

That's not very sportin'. Ya gotta give us a chance to run.

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Posted: 2/23/2007 3:01:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By Shadowstep:
I voted against but honestly it's no differant than anywhere else... there are multiple points of view

on 1 side , drunk bastard follows you out to your car and tries to rob you, you need somthing to drop the 300lb sasquatch

on the other side you got bar fights that turn ugly, drunk f^ck goes outside grabs a gun and kills other guy and anyone else who helped the other guy.

Side 3 , you witness drunk bastard assaulting woman in alleyway, you grab trusty firearm and apply the coup de grace to the back of his head "unless you want the attacker to get out of jail 2 days later and attack someone else"

Call me crazy, but I'll go ahead and wager that someone who is going to murder someone probably is enough of a dirtbag that he won't obey the gun law in the first place.

I know I'm being nonsensical, but last time I checked "Criminal" = "one who does not obey laws"

Could be just me though - I'm sure dozens of serial killers are stopped everyday not by the threat of a life sentence, but by the additional gun charge involved should they murder someone with an "illegal gun".

I've mentioned before.... those assholes do not realize how close they have come to meeting a violent death every time they pass my house.

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