Posted: 6/1/2009 11:24:08 AM EDT
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Should only take a few views to school me on this one, Will gun powder still ignite if it's wet? What about if it got wet, and then dried out, would it burn as usual?
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Smokeless powder? It is fine. In fact, spherical propellents (Ball Powder, tm) is MADE in water. Will be fine once dried but will still burn, much slower. Black powder? It will dissolve the KNO3, causing it to become a runny mess. Will not burn wet and when dried out, will no longer be powder, but it still should burn. |
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Quoted: lolQuoted: When you say 'gunpowder' what do you mean? I should have said black powder, is that the standard in rounds nowadays? Black powder will cake when it gets wet. It can blow up or ignite if you try to separate it after it cakes. ETA: Depending on the method of drying and separating. Smokeless powder, what is in common usage now will also clump and can change the consistency of the powder. IF you can get it to dry out and not deteriorate it MIGHT work... |
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Quoted: Quoted: lolQuoted: When you say 'gunpowder' what do you mean? I should have said black powder, is that the standard in rounds nowadays? Black powder will cake when it gets wet. It can blow up or ignite if you try to separate it after it cakes. ETA: Depending on the method of drying and separating. Smokeless powder, what is in common usage now will also clump and can change the consistency of the powder. IF you can get it to dry out and not deteriorate it MIGHT work... What is the "IF" with smokeless? Ball Powders and all sphericals are "born" into water. Nitrocellulose DOES NOT DISSOLVE IN WATER. PERIOD. Neiter does nitroglycerine partition out in water with any alacracity. When these hydroxyl-rich compounds are nitrated, they lose hydrogen bonding ability, turrning them from hydrophilic to hydrophobic. Because they lose those hydrogens on the hydroxyls responsible for hydrogen bonding. Ping pong balls are still made from nitrocellulose, with a bit of camphor added to plasticize it, giving that characterstic bounce. They don't seem to fall apart of decompose when they get wet. |
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What is the "IF" with smokeless? Ball Powders and all sphericals are "born" into water. Nitrocellulose DOES NOT DISSOLVE IN WATER. PERIOD. Neiter does nitroglycerine partition out in water with any alacracity. When these hydroxyl-rich compounds are nitrated, they lose hydrogen bonding ability, turrning them from hydrophilic to hydrophobic. Because they lose those hydrogens on the hydroxyls responsible for hydrogen bonding. Ping pong balls are still made from nitrocellulose, with a bit of camphor added to plasticize it, giving that characterstic bounce. They don't seem to fall apart of decompose when they get wet. This is pretty much exactly why I love the internet, theres a total genius at any matter lurking in the shadows, crouched in the 'educate' position just waiting for the correct opportunity. Thanks again for your input; it was exactly what I wanted to know and more. You can basically count on me quoting what you've said above to my friends and pretending to understand every bit of it. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: lolQuoted: When you say 'gunpowder' what do you mean? I should have said black powder, is that the standard in rounds nowadays? Black powder will cake when it gets wet. It can blow up or ignite if you try to separate it after it cakes. ETA: Depending on the method of drying and separating. Smokeless powder, what is in common usage now will also clump and can change the consistency of the powder. IF you can get it to dry out and not deteriorate it MIGHT work... What is the "IF" with smokeless? Ball Powders and all sphericals are "born" into water. Nitrocellulose DOES NOT DISSOLVE IN WATER. PERIOD. Neiter does nitroglycerine partition out in water with any alacracity. When these hydroxyl-rich compounds are nitrated, they lose hydrogen bonding ability, turrning them from hydrophilic to hydrophobic. Because they lose those hydrogens on the hydroxyls responsible for hydrogen bonding. Ping pong balls are still made from nitrocellulose, with a bit of camphor added to plasticize it, giving that characterstic bounce. They don't seem to fall apart of decompose when they get wet. True enough! Sorry for the misinformation, and as always KeithJ to the rescue!  |