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6/5/2015 6:44:22 PM EDT
Standing in line at a conv. store just now making small talk.  Guy said he was a retired art teacher in the public schools in a large system in southern Ks..  He complained about the KS. Legislature and the inability to get the schools paid for with taxes.  I commented about the low grad rate and he said that his system grad. 100%.  I'm sure he wasn't serious, so I won't call him a liar, but I just looked it up and his system rate last year was 76%.  Libs complain about no school taxes, and can't handle it when they can't meet the "requirement" for graduation.
What is the grad. rate in your district?
6/5/2015 6:45:23 PM EDT
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Was he the 7-11 clerk?


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Percentage of on-time grads: 95

Not bad, considering my state ranks dead last in graduation.

6/5/2015 6:48:59 PM EDT
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Bearded customer, obviously a lib..  Could not discuss, (had no ability to discuss the subj., without getting bent
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6/5/2015 6:49:14 PM EDT
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This past year, we were 100% graduation rate.....10 seniors.

The new district I'm teaching at this coming year: 95.7% graduation rate at the HS with around 270'ish students at the HS level
6/5/2015 6:54:55 PM EDT
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The school district I live in gets $12,779 per student and has a graduation rate of 83%. Though they have been steadily working the graduation rate down since they started building low income housing and are now talking about bringing back busing.

The city gets $16,500 per student and has a graduation rate of 43%.

Obviously throwing money at inner city schools doesn't work.
6/5/2015 6:59:42 PM EDT
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The school district I live in gets $12,779 per student and has a graduation rate of 83%. Though they have been steadily working the graduation rate down since they started building low income housing and are now talking about bringing back busing.

The city gets $16,500 per student and has a graduation rate of 43%.

Obviously throwing money at inner city schools doesn't work.
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My town is the lowest spending per student in CT. We are in the 90th percentile in graduation rate.

Parental involvment.
6/5/2015 7:04:28 PM EDT
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Kansas has some pretty major issues figuring out that schools need to be run like businesses. You can't just go over budget, or shut down your school early, because you aren't happy with how much money you were given. You can't just pay every employee the same thing, even when you have an over-abundance of one kind of teacher and a shortage of another.

There's no accountability, and there's no motivation to manage schools responsibly, because if they don't get their way they can cry "but the children" and point fingers at Brownback and the legislature. The local media jumps right on board with it, rather than ask the obvious questions like, "if you can't get the job done, what are we paying you for?"

It's not about schools being underfunded. Its about schools being mismanaged by people who are the definition of the Peter Principle.

ETA: Graduation rate for the city I live in: 86.2. But my part of the city is in another district, 91.2%. USD 259 in Wichita, arguably one of the most mismanaged in the state, 76.5.
6/5/2015 7:13:02 PM EDT
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the nearest Tulsa Public High School to my house is roughly a 39%. a lot of the students are under federal mandate busing.
6/5/2015 7:14:47 PM EDT
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graduation rates mean nothing to me. I see these kids being passed along year to year and shoved out the door with a diploma in hand. They can barely read and write and don't ask the to count over 10 unless they have sandals on.
6/5/2015 7:24:09 PM EDT
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graduation rates mean nothing to me. I see these kids being passed along year to year and shoved out the door with a diploma in hand. They can barely read and write and don't ask the to count over 10 unless they have sandals on.
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Fair point, but how ridiculous is it that you can't get over 90% of students over and absurdly low bar?
6/5/2015 7:26:28 PM EDT
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Was he the 7-11 clerk?


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Percentage of on-time grads: 95

Not bad, considering my state ranks dead last in graduation.

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Oregon, the stupidest State in the Union.

LOL
6/5/2015 7:36:34 PM EDT
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Oregon, the stupidest State in the Union.

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Was he the 7-11 clerk?


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Percentage of on-time grads: 95

Not bad, considering my state ranks dead last in graduation.

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Oregon, the stupidest State in the Union.

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Its all, like, that weed, and shit, man.
6/5/2015 8:24:00 PM EDT
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Fair point, but how ridiculous is it that you can't get over 90% of students over and absurdly low bar?
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graduation rates mean nothing to me. I see these kids being passed along year to year and shoved out the door with a diploma in hand. They can barely read and write and don't ask the to count over 10 unless they have sandals on.


Fair point, but how ridiculous is it that you can't get over 90% of students over and absurdly low bar?


Well, I speak from experience here in CA, Wife is a public school teacher for one of the largest districts in the country. They cater to the students. If the curriculum is too hard for some, they lower the bar. They keep lowering the bar until everyone gets a diploma. Basically all you have to do is show up and you pass. Even the kids that don't show up and fall behind on credits, they put them in a special school to "make up credits" faster, but not by doing extra work, just being there. They do everything in other languages too. Students are never forced to learn english. There is no standard for learning English.

Public schools are a business too, they fake attendance records to get government funds, there are backdoor deals and kickbacks galore
6/5/2015 8:57:59 PM EDT
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Without knowing how they arrived at those numbers, you should be suspicious.  Many districts only count students who made it to their senior year and don't count those who dropped out before that.  So it's kind of like the unemployment rate where they don't count people who have given up looking.