Posted: 10/29/2005 9:09:29 PM EDT
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Watch the end and tell me your opinion... www.thatvideosite.com/view/881.html I'm thinking a strong YES. |
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As soon as I saw him cock that skateboard, I would have drawn down and commanded him to cease and desist. If he did not, bang. ETA: bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang <reload>  It's amazing that guy even got up after that. Looks like he got clocked pretty good. He did look a little disoriented, though. |
Something as unwieldy as a skateboard would be very easy to parry while getting in close for a few blows. While it's terrible the guy got beat up, he saw it coming a mile away. Why he didn't at the very least keep his arms in front of him I don't know. The skateboarder should be sealed inside a pine board coffin and buried alive. 
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| Unfortunately, the guy in the white shirt escalated the sitution. He should have left the punk alone. While the punk skateboarder needs his ass kicked...I hesitate to believe that given the 'victims' persistance in getting in his face....it wouldn't be a justified shoot. YMMV.b |
The skateboarder escalated the encounter by using deadly force. Every one of those blows could be considered deadly force. It isn't even necessary to wait until you are struck. The fact he was within striking distance and demonstrated his intention of striking getting ready to swing the skateboard would be enough justification to do whatever necessary to end the attack. An OJ-style lawyer wouldn't hurt either.
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No idea. Hoping he's etheir in jail or 6 feet under. I'm taking my CCW class next weekend and I wanted to post this for opinions. Obviously, it would have been to late to draw on him once he got hit the first time. It seriously screwed him up and I'm sure I would have had just as much trouble getting back on my feet as he did. So that leaves everything up to the start of the situation. I would have backed the fuck up once he started to motion as if he was going to strike with the board. Didn't realise that was grounds for drawing a weapon though.  Only thing is, had he drawn on him before the skateboard was actually used -- would he still be justified? I'd say yes because of the previous amount of video showing him assaulting random people and laughing. Would a court though... |
LOL I actually thought this video was going to result in the kid getting shot. That would have been a great, happy ending, what with that punk ass kid writhing around on the ground, bleeding to death, crying for mommy. 
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I think the idea would be to get out of dodge if you can. No need to force yourself into that trouble, unless of course that kid fucked up YOUR vehicle, then I could see why you'd want to talk to him. The skateboarder did not pose an immediate threat to the girl whose car he hit, so you wouldn't be in the right by going up and trying to start shit with him. I'd say if I were a bystander who saw the whole thing, I'd simply call the police and let them shoot the little bitch if they had to. If it happened to be my vehicle that the kid hit, I would have just broken/driven off with his skateboard.
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Probably a good idea... Make it look like he intimidated me into leaving and wait nearby while I call the cops. If he forces a confrontation then, then I'm armed and its all gravy right? ETA: Sucks for the victim, but he did make a small mistake in even touching the skater. |
Correct. You might even say to the 911 dispatch that you think he has a gun. Then just sit back and wait for the JBT slugfest.
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True. Maybe a good dose of FOX would have been more in order? |
Texas law makes no justifications for force base on "immediate threat". However, Texas Law does allow Deadly Force to protect property under certain circumstances. Texas Penal Code §9.43. Protection of third person's property. A person is justified in using force or deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property of a third person if, under the circumstances as he reasonably believes them to be, the actor would be justified under Section 9.41 or 9.42 in using force or deadly force to protect his own land or property and: (1) the actor reasonably believes the unlawful interference constitutes attempted or consummated theft of or criminal mischief to the tangible, movable property Texas Penal Code §9.42. Deadly force to protect property. A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property: (1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and (2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary: (A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime |
Yeah I think I remember this in the CHL class. So if I understand this correctly if I happened to be walking by when the kid was pummelling the man with the skateboard, it would be completely justifiable to shoot him to prevent the white shirt guy from getting greased onto the pavement. |
Be extremely careful about defending a 3rd party. If it is your wife or sibling/parent you should be fine. You may have no idea what led up to the situation where you see one guy pummeling another. It could be that the guy on the ground is holding a gun and was the 'aggressor'. Call 911 and let the police do their job. |
| One thing that I took away from the video was that the guys kept appropriate distance from the skateboarder if the SB would have been unarmed, or armed with a knife. He was not an appropriate distance for a skateboard impact weapon. If he had been closer the SB punk would have had to back up to get a swinging dtrike like that. The guy was standing right in the danger zone for that weapon. I don't think the guy knew what to do once he confronted the SB punk either. He acted like he was shocked that he didn't intimidate the kid. When SB punk went on the offensive, the good guy was suprised, and in shock, while standing in the danger zone. Bad news. Too bad. |