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Posted: 12/1/2007 11:52:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/1/2007 11:54:16 AM EDT by Rosenrot]
Just got back from the gun range and for the very first time in my life got the chance to shoot a 1911, a Springfield GI 5' and now I know why people hate the grip angle on the Glock. I never thought I would ever do this but I'm now going to sell my G21 and buy a Springfield 1911.

Not taking anything away from the Glock now, hey if it works for you all the power to you, in terms of reliability the Glock is second to none, but after feeling the 1911 I now know what all the fuss is about. I am now a 1911 convert!


Woot!
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 11:53:55 AM EDT
That's right...step in to the light...
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 11:54:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Rosenrot:
Just got back from the gun range and for the very first time in my life got the chance to shoot a 1911, a Springfield GI 5' and now I know why people hate the grip angle on the Glock. I never thought I would ever do this but I'm now going to sell my G21 and buy a Springfield 1911.

Not taking anything away from the Glock now, hey if it works for you all the power to you, in terms of reliability the Glock is second to none, but after feeling the 1911 I now know what all the fuss is about. I am now a 1911 convert!


Welcome to the club.

I'll IM you with the secret handshake when you post a picture of the new .45...
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 11:54:10 AM EDT
Welcome
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 11:55:06 AM EDT
Good for you.

I enjoy both, but shoot better with the Glock. As my instructor says - It doesn't matter what name is on the box. Find the gun that fits your hand - don't make your hand fit the gun.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 11:55:08 AM EDT
1911's are nice and all....

But I wouldn't ditch my G21 for a 1911 I haven't had the chance to make sure functions properly unless this is a "toy". If it's not a weapon you depend on for serious social purposes, whatever you do is cool. If it is a weapon you use to preserve your posterior, be REAL slow to get rid of a known reliable weapon for one you haven't wrung out yet.

Ask me how I know....
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 11:55:31 AM EDT
selling the G21 is a mistake.

Both guns are excellent. The glock may not be as pretty/feel as good but the maintenance is much lower.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 11:55:59 AM EDT
Springfield Loaded...head on over to the 1911 forum
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 11:56:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 11:58:05 AM EDT
Don't forget to double up on mags to make up for lost capacity.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 11:59:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By dsg2003gt:
selling the G21 is a mistake.

Both guns are excellent. The glock may not be as pretty/feel as good but the maintenance is much lower.



I may keep it who knows, I feel comfortable with the my 21 because I know it is extremely reliable however the grip-angle just sucks ass, I like the 1911's much better, they just feel as if they were made by god himself.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 12:00:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Nlinc:
Don't forget to double up on mags to make up for lost capacity.


Shot placement.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 12:10:57 PM EDT
Glocks are ok for what they are, but after owning many of them, I came to the conclusion that the grips were modeled for an alien race. I still have a 19 and 26 though.

If you are annoyed by Glock grips, chances are you will find comfort in holding SIG, Beretta, and HK grips, as I believe they're made with some thought to the shape of the human hand as well.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 12:12:46 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 12:13:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 70satvert:

Originally Posted By Nlinc:
Don't forget to double up on mags to make up for lost capacity.


Shot placement.



Mutiple targets.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 12:14:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

Originally Posted By Nlinc:
Don't forget to double up on mags to make up for lost capacity.


some of us hit where we aim.

if you need more than 8 rounds.... you should have brought a rifle.


Yeah, but hicap means you can load on sunday and shoot all week!
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 12:16:19 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 12:19:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

Originally Posted By Nlinc:
Don't forget to double up on mags to make up for lost capacity.


some of us hit where we aim.

if you need more than 8 rounds.... you should have brought a rifle.


Or a Para
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 12:21:50 PM EDT
1911's naturally point low for me. I'm one of the precious few who seem to LOVE the grip on a Glock.

Side note - the actual angle is about identical. There's something else that shifts the aim for most people, but it isn't the angle. I don't know what it is, but I've placed my G19 and 1911 on top of each other and tne grip angle is identical. I even started a thread on it once, and somebody posted pics.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 12:25:42 PM EDT
Glocks have a lot going for them, some complain about grip angle, try a P08 Luger for a

weird grip angle. High capacity magazines, Yes Sir !! But like Jeff Cooper said, if you hit

what you are aiming at, the 1911 carries enough rounds for serious business. I just sold

an excellent Glock 22 in .40 S&W because I didn't need it as I have two 1911s. But I

had no complaints, just personal preferences.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 12:26:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Subnet:
1911's naturally point low for me. I'm one of the precious few who seem to LOVE the grip on a Glock.

Side note - the actual angle is about identical. There's something else that shifts the aim for most people, but it isn't the angle. I don't know what it is, but I've placed my G19 and 1911 on top of each other and tne grip angle is identical. I even started a thread on it once, and somebody posted pics.


I'm trying to picture the glock in my head, the 1911 is straight for and aft but doesn't the G have a swell at the rear base and taper in up by the frame?
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 1:36:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/1/2007 1:36:42 PM EDT by 87GN]

Originally Posted By Nlinc:
Don't forget to double up on mags to make up for lost capacity.


Some of us actually hit what we shoot at.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 1:37:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Subnet:
1911's naturally point low for me. I'm one of the precious few who seem to LOVE the grip on a Glock.

Side note - the actual angle is about identical. There's something else that shifts the aim for most people, but it isn't the angle. I don't know what it is, but I've placed my G19 and 1911 on top of each other and tne grip angle is identical. I even started a thread on it once, and somebody posted pics.


How about laying the mags on top of each other? That might help clarify things.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 1:41:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bigcraig:

Originally Posted By 70satvert:

Originally Posted By Nlinc:
Don't forget to double up on mags to make up for lost capacity.


Shot placement.



Mutiple targets.


If I've gotta hit 8 guys...and only have a pistol....I showed up to the wrong gunfight.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 1:43:11 PM EDT
Then take the 1911 to the range and then fire a HK USP/P2000/P30/HK45...and then you'll be complete.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 1:43:19 PM EDT

Since you are in an experimental mood... I recommend you try a Smith Model 27 (or any Smith .357) or an early model 29 with target hammer and trigger, or a Colt Python if you want to experience a superior factory trigger (try it cocked and squeeze-WOW). None sweeter.

I know revolvers are not in fashion, but you guys are missing out.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 1:43:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ThunderStick:
Since you are in an experimental mood... I recommend you try a Smith Model 27 (or any Smith .357) or an early model 29 with target hammer and trigger, or a Colt Python if you want to experience a superior factory trigger (try it cocked and squeeze-WOW). None sweeter.

I know revolvers are not in fashion, but you guys are missing out.


I love wheel guns.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 1:48:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fivepointoh:

Originally Posted By ThunderStick:
Since you are in an experimental mood... I recommend you try a Smith Model 27 (or any Smith .357) or an early model 29 with target hammer and trigger, or a Colt Python if you want to experience a superior factory trigger (try it cocked and squeeze-WOW). None sweeter.

I know revolvers are not in fashion, but you guys are missing out.


I love wheel guns.




Link Posted: 12/1/2007 1:49:12 PM EDT
I wouldn't ditch my 21sf for the world. 1911's are nice and damn sexy, but when it comes down to it, I would rather have my Glock.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 1:54:45 PM EDT
I did the exact opposete

I was a hard core Jeff Cooper fanboy for years

Got a G19 traded to me on a AR15 I wanted to sell

10 years later Glocks are about the only handguns I actally shoot although I own other stuff
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 1:56:12 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:00:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Rem700PSS:
Then take the 1911 to the range and then fire a HK USP/P2000/P30/HK45...and then you'll be complete.


Or perhaps not...

I've fired (or owned) every popular handgun out there and I keep coming back to 2 types... 1911's and Sig P series.

HK handguns do nothing for me.

Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:00:26 PM EDT
Some guys just have dainty girly hands and can't handle the Glock perfection.
That's why they prefer the 1911 ... it's like a slim tampon for gun pussies.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:05:15 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:06:41 PM EDT
Tupperware belongs in the kitchen



Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:08:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By shotar:


It was. The 1911 was designed by the Lord for the benefit of enlightened people. It was delivered unto the American people through his prophet John Moses Browning to deliver us from evil. There have been many attempts to create a better design but none have succeeded,



Quoting the Gospel is good for the soul
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:11:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By supersix4:

Originally Posted By shotar:


It was. The 1911 was designed by the Lord for the benefit of enlightened people. It was delivered unto the American people through his prophet John Moses Browning to deliver us from evil. There have been many attempts to create a better design but none have succeeded,



Quoting the Gospel is good for the soul


Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:11:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Throttle-Junkie:
Some guys just have dainty girly hands and can't handle the Glock perfection.
That's why they prefer the 1911 ... it's like a slim tampon for gun pussies.


I'm comfortable holding a Glock 20, a Desert Eagle, or a 1911.

The 1911 works fine for big hands too... and conceals much better than a double stack.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:15:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Subnet:

Originally Posted By supersix4:

Originally Posted By shotar:


It was. The 1911 was designed by the Lord for the benefit of enlightened people. It was delivered unto the American people through his prophet John Moses Browning to deliver us from evil. There have been many attempts to create a better design but none have succeeded,



Quoting the Gospel is good for the soul


www.rambling-geek.com/images/humor/Book_Of_Browning.jpg



Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:16:36 PM EDT


Originally Posted By Throttle-Junkie:
Some guys just have dainty girly hands and can't handle the Glock perfection.
That's why they prefer the 1911 ... it's like a slim tampon for gun pussies.








perfection?????



perfect GRENADE!!!!


Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:18:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Throttle-Junkie:
Some guys just have dainty girly hands and can't handle the Glock perfection.
That's why they prefer the 1911 ... it's like a slim tampon for gun pussies.



Forgive the heathen Father Browning.

For he knows not what he says.



Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:21:26 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:29:04 PM EDT
Been there, done that.

You'll be back... they always come back.

Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:36:03 PM EDT
Probably should get rid of the G21, it's somewhat large as a back up gun.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:40:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Rosenrot:
Just got back from the gun range and for the very first time in my life got the chance to shoot a 1911, a Springfield GI 5' and now I know why people hate the grip angle on the Glock. I never thought I would ever do this but I'm now going to sell my G21 and buy a Springfield 1911.

Not taking anything away from the Glock now, hey if it works for you all the power to you, in terms of reliability the Glock is second to none, but after feeling the 1911 I now know what all the fuss is about. I am now a 1911 convert!


Woot!


NICE! Welcome aboard.

Now you need to pray for the other Glock owners that don't know any better: "Forgive them John Moses Browning, for they know not what they do..."
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:45:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/1/2007 2:46:26 PM EDT by Colt45guy]




A Glock can get along with 1911s.


Celebrate diversity, man!
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:46:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Colt45guy:
i172.photobucket.com/albums/w19/Colt45guy/_45s006.jpg



A Glock can get along with 1911s. Hell, even a 9mm can get along with .45s. Celebrate diversity, man!



Originally Posted By Colt45guy's Sig Line:
115 + 115 = 230. Mathematical proof that .45 is twice as good as 9mm!




Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:49:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Colt45guy:
i172.photobucket.com/albums/w19/Colt45guy/Range006.jpg



A Glock can get along with 1911s.


Celebrate diversity, man!



leave the tupperware in the kitchen


Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:58:01 PM EDT
Don't sell the Glock. You'll regret it. Guaranteed.

Not that there's anything wrong with 1911s, but I've regretted every single gun I've sold.

Save up for the 1911 if you have to, but don't sell one gun to buy another.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 3:00:00 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 3:08:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Possum-Sandwich:
Not that there's anything wrong with 1911s, but I've regretted every single gun I've sold.


Not me. They are just tools. The only ones I wouldn't sell are the ones that have been in my family for generations.
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