Posted: 3/24/2013 1:56:06 PM EDT
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...I like Young's literal when I am researching. He used strict rules to translate and tried hard to not paraphrase. I googled "Young's literal" and found this interesting quote: "26And God saith, ‘Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness, and let them rule over fish of the sea, and over fowl of the heavens, and over cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that is creeping on the earth.’ 27And God prepareth the man in His image; in the image of God He prepared him, a male and a female He prepared them. 28And God blesseth them, and God saith to them, ‘Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it, and rule over fish of the sea, and over fowl of the heavens, and over every living thing that is creeping upon the earth.’ 29And God saith, ‘Lo, I have given to you every herb sowing seed, which [is] upon the face of all the earth, and every tree in which [is] the fruit of a tree sowing seed, to you it is for food; 30and to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the heavens, and to every creeping thing on the earth, in which [is] breath of life, every green herb [is] for food:’ and it is so." http://yltbible.com/genesis/1.htm According to this, when God created animals, he only made herbivores. Where did the carnivores come from? |
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The shedding of blood wasn't required for anything pre-fall. After man sinned, God cursed man, animals, and the earth.
Death enters the food chain at Genesis 3. Genesis 3:14 "So the LORD God said to the serpent: "Because you have done this, You [are] cursed more than all cattle, And more than every beast of the field" Gen 3:21 has a prophetic meaning in that God was willing to shed blood to cover sin. "Also for Adam and his wife the LORD God made tunics of skin, and clothed them." |
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Much bigger issues with the creation narrative than that  Yes, and I believe this also, although all of this information given here is relavent in its own way as an investigative process unto the truth about God's word and therein the greatness of it. Now, I really don't want to be the one to sort of interject the dino thing in here, but even if scientists cannot or have not completely agree about the way that dinosaurs acted, looked like, or even functioned within a,''prehistoric'' enviroment as food, or being the ones doing the eating on rather than plant eaters only, at one point and apparently before man came along, according to the physical and archeological information establishing the patterns shown, is that some dinosaurs were feeding on other of their own species as a probably and did happen senario as science implies that it did. Now, no matter how one views certain parts of the creation story, and about those particular processes, it is a fact to us who believe that there is an intellegent designer within our own spheres of reality and His name is Jesus Christ, along with the Father whose name is YAWH, or Jehovah, but has many more Names that designate some of the multi-facited things that this great and all-powerful God does for us. It is interesting to note here also, is that, can we really account for the all of earthly creation in a state of chronological time, and then all of the other event factors, that being, in and out of chronos with the rest of all of the other universal creation, going on as it still unfolds today? And in this also in accordance with and pertaining to the other evidence(s) that the Bible gives us all throughout the Genesis accounting of God's word as a gateway to revelation knowledge about it? And what I am making reference to here is that if God created the earth in seven twenty-four hour periods, then how can we be reconcilliatory about these events as they point to other evidence that suggests a much longer,''in time'' process than just at one week? In other words, with the current scientific physical evidence shown and compiled exhaustively here about creation and the general evolutionary and adaptive process that came latter, even if we might say in accordance with the way the word,''day'' is translated in Hebrew to English in the Genesis Biblical account comes to us as understandable by the translations own merits, then what should we make about the descrepansies here between the Biblical accounting of God's creation story, and several hundred years of research by the scientific community saying many different things and for many different reasons? Now, we know that some scientific data does have its own challenges at making good on some of the hypothosis and theories that it has sometimes has been equated for great probabilty in the realm of a viable state of being. But whatever reasons as the scientific community does there thing in this regard by deeming some research over time as, ''unreliable science'' and the like as scientists often do about other scientists life's work some of those reasons why for us to know the differences which bring the truth to us ever closer and closer until the absolute of anything examined permits us to understand about it much better. But here also, I believe according to these things according to the ways of the political minded scientist does his or her thing, or from scientists who therorize about many things concerning our physical world indeed, the real numbers here about whats right say here about the dinosaures or piecing together other pre-historic information together as something which is within the realm of a real and actual truth according to the information given. And this means giving an accounting about any biological species of earth's early fauna as it was in a pristine enviroment back in those times, but now is non-existant in the world in which we live in now. And in this, protracted extinction, there is only on the scale of thirty to forty percent accurate as a best scientific estimate might show through the evidence given from the discoveries made that any one of these things about time, as time was back then of having at least some gaps and informational archeological and other scientific study about them which has been in fact overturned as valid research shown. Again, science is only going to give us what only God has shown them and us, that being, the christian as well as the secular scientific humanist or atheist because God would have the whole of creation to benifit from the information that God has given to the physicist to study as well as all of the other methods that God uses to motivate men and woman in order for us to discover certain things not only about the earth and what has happened to it, but mankind as a way for us to benifit one another at all times and to fufill the command that God gave man according to proliferating on the earth and subduing all things, here again just not for man's own personal benifit and acceptance from others, but most importantly as a command also from the being pertaining to God's own glory coming first as the Creator of all things, and still being created, as the evidence in this respect, to creation, fully shows or is almost universally accepted now. Thanks, SAE |
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Although historical events are recorded, the Bible is not a History Book. That wasn't it's point. The Biblical authors were not so concerned about history as they were about our salvation and how the events of the past could be understood in relation to our faith. Salvation history deals with God's love for us, showing us what we once had, our fall, giving us the Law to see what's required so that we can see we can't keep it, and then showing us a plan for our salvation by a Savior who COULD fulfill the Law. It was first shown to the Chosen People through prophesies, and then fulfilled in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. It was then revealed to us so that we may believe and be saved also.
This does NOT mean that the earth was not created in seven days, but it could mean that only necessary names are included in the genealogies, for example. Because dinosaurs are not mentioned does not mean they did not exist. Knowledge of the dinosaurs are not necessary for our salvation. They're irrelevant. The Bible only tells us what we need to know. |
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Although historical events are recorded, the Bible is not a History Book. That wasn't it's point. The Biblical authors were not so concerned about history as they were about our salvation and how the events of the past could be understood in relation to the reader's faith. Salvation history deals with God's love for us, showing us what we once had, our fall, giving us the Law to see what's required so that we can see we can't keep it, and then showing us a plan for our salvation by a Savior who COULD fulfill the Law. It was first shown to the Chosen People through prophesies, and then fulfilled in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. It was then revealed to us so that we may believe and be saved also. Yes, but understand this thing also, when the called in Christ leave or morph out of this life into the kingdom of heaven, it is at that time the elect will as the Bible says will,''put on the mind of Christ,'' and worship God at His throne forever. Now, in this state of perfected perfection (ha, i just mis-spelled perfection) in which we learned somewhat about by degree down on planet earth mostly as a feature of worship toward God by us thus within His own originating and thus singular perfection over everything else as He brings us to Him in a united stage according to that perfection or by the Holy Spirit of God who the Bible says,'' teaches us about all things''. This being accomplished by us,''in Him'' but yet,''Him in us (Us), thus fulfilling the law as God has never had an occassion to violate it or imperfect it as a the Bible states here again as,''a down-payment for our salvation. These things were done as a matter of God's righteous judgements upon all things, then we in this particular state of being will be perfect for us just as God always has been! Then that being in God's kingdom, we will be joint-heirs with Christ just as the evidence shows that we are. And at that point, that we can as those joint-heirs and slaves of Jesus Christ demonstrate at all times that we most certainly can, and at all times also as the evidence to God's perfection to that strict and exacting perfection according to His will and way! For service to our King! Thanks, SAE |