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12/19/2015 1:18:40 PM EDT
Just heard once again this morning that out of the top four republican candidates Trumpy polls the worst in a head to head match up with the witch. Average is down by 8 points.

Hope the republicans wake up before they actually nominate this clown. They only way he beats her is if she gets indicted and that's not going to happen.
12/19/2015 1:20:29 PM EDT
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Uh, OK, thanks for letting us all know.
12/19/2015 1:22:21 PM EDT
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As if any Republican is going to get +270 EC votes ever again.
12/19/2015 1:23:22 PM EDT
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This. What difference does it make?
12/19/2015 1:23:57 PM EDT
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that's only because   the poll  is Hillary  vs the gang of eight.........    once   it's Hillary and Trump........  he's going to win all 50 starts
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Just heard once again this morning that out of the top four republican candidates Trumpy polls the worst in a head to head match up with the witch. Average is down by 8 points.

Hope the republicans wake up before they actually nominate this clown. They only way he beats her is if she gets indicted and that's not going to happen.
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12/19/2015 1:24:19 PM EDT
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I'm not sure.   I'm not an expert, but I know Virginia just voted R in their elections so there's a change.  Other states are starting to get a little froggy with the D's approach to things, too.

Again, I'm NOT an expert.  I am simply advocating for anything being possible at this point.
12/19/2015 1:25:21 PM EDT
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that's only because   the poll  is Hillary  vs the gang of eight.........    once   it's Hillary and Trump........  he's going to win all 50 starts
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that's only because   the poll  is Hillary  vs the gang of eight.........    once   it's Hillary and Trump........  he's going to win all 50 starts
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Just heard once again this morning that out of the top four republican candidates Trumpy polls the worst in a head to head match up with the witch. Average is down by 8 points.

Hope the republicans wake up before they actually nominate this clown. They only way he beats her is if she gets indicted and that's not going to happen.



You keep telling yourself that

ETA:  There are 3 or 4 I'd make the effort to go out and vote for but he's not one of them. If it's him and the witch it makes no difference. Even if he would happen to beat her it wouldn't matter
12/19/2015 1:31:10 PM EDT
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that's only because   the poll  is Hillary  vs the gang of eight.........    once   it's Hillary and Trump........  he's going to win all 50 starts
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Just heard once again this morning that out of the top four republican candidates Trumpy polls the worst in a head to head match up with the witch. Average is down by 8 points.

Hope the republicans wake up before they actually nominate this clown. They only way he beats her is if she gets indicted and that's not going to happen.



You keep telling yourself that

Please explain to voters how it works..how about explaining how much of the womens,minority, and middle vote a conservative candidate needs to compete for a national presidential election..then explain how much each of the top candidates are most likely to receive... when you can do that and do it honestly then you will be able to make a half ass guess at who stands a chance in the general election... but you will have a much better idea of who won't....
12/19/2015 1:58:36 PM EDT
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Please explain to voters how it works..how about explaining how much of the womens,minority, and middle vote a conservative candidate needs to compete for a national presidential election..then explain how much each of the top candidates are most likely to receive... when you can do that and do it honestly then you will be able to make a half ass guess at who stands a chance in the general election... but you will have a much better idea of who won't....
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that's only because   the poll  is Hillary  vs the gang of eight.........    once   it's Hillary and Trump........  he's going to win all 50 starts
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Just heard once again this morning that out of the top four republican candidates Trumpy polls the worst in a head to head match up with the witch. Average is down by 8 points.

Hope the republicans wake up before they actually nominate this clown. They only way he beats her is if she gets indicted and that's not going to happen.



You keep telling yourself that

Please explain to voters how it works..how about explaining how much of the womens,minority, and middle vote a conservative candidate needs to compete for a national presidential election..then explain how much each of the top candidates are most likely to receive... when you can do that and do it honestly then you will be able to make a half ass guess at who stands a chance in the general election... but you will have a much better idea of who won't....


Sorry you misunderstood. I did NOT do the polling the experts did. Look at the polls. I'm just the messenger.

You go ahead and hang your hat on the clown but I'd bet in the end your had and the clown both go away
12/19/2015 2:05:47 PM EDT
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Those same idiotic match-up polls have Bush and Christie within a point of Hillary.



They're total bullshit.
12/19/2015 2:10:14 PM EDT
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Sorry you misunderstood. I did NOT do the polling the experts did. Look at the polls. I'm just the messenger.

You go ahead and hang your hat on the clown but I'd bet in the end your had and the clown both go away
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that's only because   the poll  is Hillary  vs the gang of eight.........    once   it's Hillary and Trump........  he's going to win all 50 starts
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Just heard once again this morning that out of the top four republican candidates Trumpy polls the worst in a head to head match up with the witch. Average is down by 8 points.

Hope the republicans wake up before they actually nominate this clown. They only way he beats her is if she gets indicted and that's not going to happen.



You keep telling yourself that

Please explain to voters how it works..how about explaining how much of the womens,minority, and middle vote a conservative candidate needs to compete for a national presidential election..then explain how much each of the top candidates are most likely to receive... when you can do that and do it honestly then you will be able to make a half ass guess at who stands a chance in the general election... but you will have a much better idea of who won't....


Sorry you misunderstood. I did NOT do the polling the experts did. Look at the polls. I'm just the messenger.

You go ahead and hang your hat on the clown but I'd bet in the end your had and the clown both go away

so when did they all start their campaigns for the general election..you do realize they normally do that after they do the party nominations right? each side picks  candidates from amongst their party to represent them in the nomination elections, then they campaign against each other, then we all vote for them, they count up the votes and announce the winner....then those party winners campaign against each other nationally and then we vote for them, and they announce the winner...none of thats been done..we still haven't picked the party winners yet so we have no clue who's going to be running against who in the general...so your msm expert polls..dont really mean anything..they are a guess...a wild ass guess at that...I wwould still put much more faith in historical vote data  anyway at this point, because if a candidate can't even manage to reach that simple part..he won't make the main show regardless what a bunch of polls say..but hey what does history know right?
12/19/2015 2:12:37 PM EDT
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You can't tell him that..his man is winning no matter what..
12/19/2015 2:26:50 PM EDT
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General election is 10 1/2 months away.

FBI is still involved in a criminal investigation against Hillary Clinton.

No republican, period, has run a single campaign ad against Clinton.

Clinton has been in hiding, when she comes out of hiding she drops in the polls.

Anyone seen Clinton on any network interviews recently?

Clinton will have to go onto Fox News for interviews before the election, she can't continue to hide and get elected.

She will have to debate where she will actually be attacked.

The national GOP will run ads against her.

The republican candidate will run ads against her.

Super-PACS will run ads against her.


None of this has even started.
12/19/2015 2:31:08 PM EDT
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This is much easier to accomplish than you think, but not because of R vs. D.

It will have more to do with old versus new.

The Republican field is wide open with young blood.

The Democrat field is angry old witch trying to look young, versus even angrier, older white man, who only appeals to leftists who want to take even more away and get into your life more with proven failed policies.
12/19/2015 2:33:46 PM EDT
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You sound just like GOPe members Tom Ridge, George Pataki, John Kasich and Lindsey Graham.

I watched the Luntz focus group on Fox last night.  Just about every single person on it said they would definitely vote for Trump if he was the candidate.

Polls are showing Trump receives overwhelming support from those polled on fighting ISIS, being a strong leader and solving illegal immigration.

If there is another surge at the border that gets airplay and anymore terrorist attacks in the US prior to the election, Trump will walk away with the nomination and the general election.  




12/19/2015 2:37:47 PM EDT
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General election is 10 1/2 months away.

FBI is still involved in a criminal investigation against Hillary Clinton.

No republican, period, has run a single campaign ad against Clinton.

Clinton has been in hiding, when she comes out of hiding she drops in the polls.

Anyone seen Clinton on any network interviews recently?

Clinton will have to go onto Fox News for interviews before the election, she can't continue to hide and get elected.

She will have to debate where she will actually be attacked.

The national GOP will run ads against her.

The republican candidate will run ads against her.

Super-PACS will run ads against her.


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She can't even run openly in the Democrat field.  She is using her former Campaign co-chair and DNC Chairwoman, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, to cut debates down to half of what the RNC is, and scheduling them for weekends.

Notice how they suspended Sanders' campaign access to the DNC servers on Friday, just before the weekend?

That gives Hillary's minions this whole weekend to pour over Sanders' voter records, volunteer information, and campaign strategy while his campaign is shut out, buying her at least a week head start against him, or so she thought.  It's really a stupid move that might have worked great in the 1970's when they could count on feeding talking points to the presstitutes, but since this generation doesn't watch the news like that anymore, and looks to their social media, the cat's out of the bag.  Everyone can see what they just did plain as day, and even the dumb ones know that something stinks really bad.

This could send the criminal investigation into high gear.  What does Obama's DOJ think of this?  Do they approve of Hillary playing dirty like this against Bernie?

Then there is the likability problem Hillary has always had, and will always have.  She simply can't overcome it as her base moves into wheelchairs and walkers at the nursing home.  
12/19/2015 2:40:18 PM EDT
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Sorry you misunderstood. I did NOT do the polling the experts did. Look at the polls. I'm just the messenger.

You go ahead and hang your hat on the clown but I'd bet in the end your had and the clown both go away
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that's only because   the poll  is Hillary  vs the gang of eight.........    once   it's Hillary and Trump........  he's going to win all 50 starts
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Just heard once again this morning that out of the top four republican candidates Trumpy polls the worst in a head to head match up with the witch. Average is down by 8 points.

Hope the republicans wake up before they actually nominate this clown. They only way he beats her is if she gets indicted and that's not going to happen.



You keep telling yourself that

Please explain to voters how it works..how about explaining how much of the womens,minority, and middle vote a conservative candidate needs to compete for a national presidential election..then explain how much each of the top candidates are most likely to receive... when you can do that and do it honestly then you will be able to make a half ass guess at who stands a chance in the general election... but you will have a much better idea of who won't....


Sorry you misunderstood. I did NOT do the polling the experts did. Look at the polls. I'm just the messenger.

You go ahead and hang your hat on the clown but I'd bet in the end your had and the clown both go away


Are these the same experts that said Romney in a landslide?
12/19/2015 2:42:02 PM EDT
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Those same idiotic match-up polls have Bush and Christie within a point of Hillary.

They're total bullshit.

You can't tell him that..his man is winning no matter what..

If Trump was that far behind Hillary, we'd never hear about it. The commies are shit scared of what Trump's going to do
12/19/2015 2:42:21 PM EDT
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Those same idiotic match-up polls have Bush and Christie within a point of Hillary.

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It is funny how early on, their polls said Bush had the best chance of beating Hillary.  Now that Bush is polling 3% among Republicans, the media and GOPe has turned their attention to Rubio, who they are now trying to postion as the new establishment candidate.  Rubio clearly has the best shot of beating HIllary

I think either Trump or Cruz could pull it off
12/19/2015 2:43:34 PM EDT
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I'm not convinced that isn't the plan
12/19/2015 2:43:51 PM EDT
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As anyone who has practiced politics can tell you, a substantial portion of the uncommitted voters (the people who determine the outcome of general elections) don't make up their minds about whom they will vote for until 6 weeks or less before the election.

Therefore, polls taken 11 months before the election tell us nothing useful. They do generate interest, and therefore revenue, for the media, which is why the media pays for them.
12/19/2015 3:29:21 PM EDT
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She can't even run openly in the Democrat field.  She is using her former Campaign co-chair and DNC Chairwoman, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, to cut debates down to half of what the RNC is, and scheduling them for weekends.

Notice how they suspended Sanders' campaign access to the DNC servers on Friday, just before the weekend?

That gives Hillary's minions this whole weekend to pour over Sanders' voter records, volunteer information, and campaign strategy while his campaign is shut out, buying her at least a week head start against him, or so she thought.  It's really a stupid move that might have worked great in the 1970's when they could count on feeding talking points to the presstitutes, but since this generation doesn't watch the news like that anymore, and looks to their social media, the cat's out of the bag.  Everyone can see what they just did plain as day, and even the dumb ones know that something stinks really bad.

This could send the criminal investigation into high gear.  What does Obama's DOJ think of this?  Do they approve of Hillary playing dirty like this against Bernie?

Then there is the likability problem Hillary has always had, and will always have.  She simply can't overcome it as her base moves into wheelchairs and walkers at the nursing home.  
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The DNC caved on banning Sander's campaign from accessing the DNC servers.  Apparently, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz was caught lying on a national news program concerning what happened and then it was made public that the company that controls the servers the DNC uses are run by an individual with the last name of Wasserman, I shit you not.  A relative of DWS.

The federal lawsuit Sander's filed would allow discovery of all internal communications which were suspected to show the DNC was setting it up for a Clinton win over the other Democrat candidates (as in the fix was in).  DNC ran for cover.
12/19/2015 3:31:48 PM EDT
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Reagan was polling below Carter
12/19/2015 3:32:44 PM EDT
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12/19/2015 3:35:47 PM EDT
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Well just go back to DU then.....
12/19/2015 3:42:08 PM EDT
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She can't even run openly in the Democrat field.  She is using her former Campaign co-chair and DNC Chairwoman, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, to cut debates down to half of what the RNC is, and scheduling them for weekends.

Notice how they suspended Sanders' campaign access to the DNC servers on Friday, just before the weekend?

That gives Hillary's minions this whole weekend to pour over Sanders' voter records, volunteer information, and campaign strategy while his campaign is shut out, buying her at least a week head start against him, or so she thought.  It's really a stupid move that might have worked great in the 1970's when they could count on feeding talking points to the presstitutes, but since this generation doesn't watch the news like that anymore, and looks to their social media, the cat's out of the bag.  Everyone can see what they just did plain as day, and even the dumb ones know that something stinks really bad.

This could send the criminal investigation into high gear.  What does Obama's DOJ think of this?  Do they approve of Hillary playing dirty like this against Bernie?

Then there is the likability problem Hillary has always had, and will always have.  She simply can't overcome it as her base moves into wheelchairs and walkers at the nursing home.  

The DNC caved on banning Sander's campaign from accessing the DNC servers.  Apparently, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz was caught lying on a national news program concerning what happened and then it was made public that the company that controls the servers the DNC uses are run by an individual with the last name of Wasserman, I shit you not.  A relative of DWS.

Aharon Wasserman.  I'm on top of it.  I posted about it this morning.  I'm still doing some digging.

No matter how it plays out, Sanders fans will see the nepotism and cry foul.  Hillary will be on the defensive, and further delay of debates only builds up the storm of material that can be used to highlight her corruption.