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Posted: 8/18/2001 10:20:36 AM EDT
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I've played just about every Tactical FPS and mod out there... ok well maybe not ALL the mods, but a TON of them!
Here's my $.223 on the subject: Slower Tac FPS appeal to the older and more realism minded players. These are games such as Rogue Spear which require quick and decisive team play. There isn't a health meter, there isn't a respawn, it's simply do or die. Faster Tac FPS appeal to the younger guys or anyone out for a quick speed thrill. This is where the BULK of the players play. This includes games such as CounterStrike. These games move at lightning speed and you're either the quick or the dead. These games tend to make you laugh and cry within a matter of minutes. You can take a few hits usually (newer games have critical hit areas such as the chest and head) and not be out for the count. Realism takes a hit, but the fun factor goes up. I spend most of my time in the second category. I think the new breed of games or mods (game modifications, basically build a new game out of an existing one such as Quake) are all trying to merge the two into a quality compromise. The best examples of this are games like CounterStrike and UrbanTerror. Both of these require the quick reflexes and usually don't end in your instant death, but depending on how you outfit yourself with body armor you can die before you know it. Personally I think UrbanTerror (a mod for Quake3 Arena) is THE upcoming game to play. It's a great combination of classic fragging and realistic tacticals. Your aim goes wild as you move, there are damage locations for each player, you bleed when yer hit, you limp when you sustain a leg injury, and so forth. Either way you slice it, combat gaming is reaching out from the classic fragfest free for alls to the team play mode. It's no longer about who is the best, it's about whose TEAM is the best! That to me is what it's all about... -- GB |
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Posted: 8/18/2001 10:39:33 AM EDT
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Does Mahjong count ?
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Posted: 8/18/2001 7:24:29 PM EDT
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Mahjong should count, along with solitaire and battleship. When I grew tired of pong and finally got me a real 'puter (Atari 400) I liked Star Raiders, Missile Command, and Mule. Then Mr. IBM screwed up and opened up his architecture for the world to copy cheaply so I broke down and got me a IMB compatible. Since then I've killed everything that moves in Doom and Duke Nukem (had fun setting off pipe bombs next to my buddies - they never knew what hit em), cleared the skies in my F-16 Fighting Falcon, made successful carrier landings in my F-14 Tomcat and F-18 Hornet, and bombed Hitler into submission in my ole B-17 Flying Fortress. Even made it back for a safe landing on one engine once. Lately its been Diablo and Diablo II.
I hear there's a new FPS coming out by the company who makes training sims for the military. Supposed to be even better than what the military gets, minus some of the classified stuff. Can't remember the name of the company offhand. CRS setting in!!! |
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Posted: 8/18/2001 7:26:50 PM EDT
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Red Alert II - the Aftermath.
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Posted: 8/18/2001 10:22:37 PM EDT
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I dont know much about all the fps out there, but I read Red Storm was approached by the Army to make a mainframe combat sim for them. They turned down the offer and use the idea to make Ghost Recon the game. Sounds very promising...
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Posted: 8/19/2001 8:31:57 AM EDT
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Wish I could remember the name of the military sim I referred to above. I read about it in a PC Gamer mag I left at work. If I have no CRS bout tomorrow, I'll find the article again and post the info. The military contracted with this company to produce the sim, and it is presently in use. I do remember that the military version has no troops to take out, just vehicles, but the civilian version will have troops.
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Posted: 8/19/2001 8:44:48 AM EDT
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I stick to the turn based games. Operation Art of War 1+2, Combat Mission, and the Pazner General Series.
Also play Shogun: Total War, Flight Sims (Falcon, MS Combat Flight Sim. 2, etc). I liked Swat 3 much better than any of the Rouge Spear games. In SWAT 3 it was a lot more dynamic, your men didn't stick to a preplanned mission route, so you could change tactics halfway through the game. |
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Posted: 8/19/2001 8:46:42 AM EDT
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I actually spent most of last night over at a friend of mine's where we had a small LAN setup with all of our computers. We usually spend 90% of the time playing Rouge Spear and the Urban Operations expansion. We do play UT and Halflife occationally, but we do prefer the realistic games such as Rainbow. If you are looking for a game that comprimises between fast action and realism, try thr Delta Force series. Unlike Rainbow Six, you can respawn when you die, which keeps thing going. You guys may also want to check out the Operation Flashpoint demo, it look very impressive. Other than that, I usually play a little Start Fleet Command and whatever flight sim I'm currently in the mood for....
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Posted: 8/19/2001 8:49:58 AM EDT
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R6 was just too slow for my tastes... it was fun, but I grew weary quickly... same with SWAT3...
Check into UrbanTerror (mod for Q3) and you will love it. It's much more realistic than CS and running the Quake3 engine makes it beautiful to play. -- GB (I play RTS and TBS games too, but not as often. RA2, AOE2, Shogun, Civ, etc) [=D] |
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Posted: 8/19/2001 9:08:12 AM EDT
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I was pretty young when [b]Magic the Gathering[/b] came out.
I never did learn how to play, but I made a damn fortune off selling the cards... I recognized that the cards had potential to become valueable as players increased, and demand outstripped supply. I asked the Magic players which cards were rare and sought after, then I bought them... (This was before the "Scrye" price guide came out) My gamble paid off, and the game blew up in popularity. All of a sudden, the "Rock Hydra's" and "Serra Angel's" I had paid $2.00 - $5.00 for were selling for $75 - $100, and people were readily paying the asking prices... As far as games I play, chess. I am ELO rated 1850 which is good, but it has been a while since I competed against other good players, so my rating has surely dropped since then. I usually play Kings Indian or Ruy Lopez systems. I think certian computer games games are very good. They require a more real time strategy, and stress critical thinking skills in an active enviroment, which is V_E_R_Y benificial to kids in their formative years. |
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Posted: 8/19/2001 10:36:53 AM EDT
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I scored pretty big with MTG as well.. played maybe once, but had some sick cards which I sold for a killing... dont thing I have a single card left... I also ditched those classic StarWars figures at the right time and made out well there too... Same with some sports cards and my comic collection. [=D]
Since nobody wants to believe the my priase and ditch CS for a KICK ASS GAME, here's a few screenshots of UrbanTerror in action: [img]http://216.66.74.147/screenshots/ingame09.jpg[/img] [img]http://216.66.74.147/screenshots/ingame08.jpg[/img] [img]http://216.66.74.147/screenshots/rommel01.jpg[/img] [img]http://216.66.74.147/screenshots/casa01.jpg[/img] ]=) -- GB |
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Posted: 8/19/2001 11:26:44 AM EDT
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The world environment of the maps looks incredible but the weapon models are crude as hell. The models are rather rough polygons but the skins don't fit either. Somebody out there has got to make replacement models for those things.
I wish I could learn how the hell to use 3D Studio Max to create models and then skin them. Do the Urban Terror weapons have alternate modes of fire? Like a laser on the MP5 or a tactical light on a shotgun or AR? What about skills options? |
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Posted: 8/19/2001 1:03:42 PM EDT
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I was into playing Q3 and Team Arena, but the major turnoff from it was "lag from hell". Being on a 56k modem it drove me nuts. The guys I was up against were pinging the host at most 50ms, some around 20ms. They were dancing around me. I felt like I was in Star Trek beaming all over the map. 56k and Quake do not mix. I could handle the lag in Rogue Spear because once the newbs die it leaves [:D]. If I ever get DSL or Cable I might pick it up again. [b]Quake take half skill and half ping.[/b]
When does Urban Terror hit the shelves?? Do you have to have Original Q3? |
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Posted: 8/19/2001 2:28:56 PM EDT
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UrbanTerror is a free download mod for Quake3Arena... so install Q3, download UT and booya!
The weapon models are a bit weak IMHO, but it is VERY early in this games life... the playability of this game is so amazing that the piss poor models make a small issue. Right now the big concern is that teams are too hard to diffentiate, but in reality it's usually the same... As for the "modifications" to guns, yes they ROCK. You can equip yourself with silencers, nightvision, or laser sites for the guns that can use them and put them on or take them off. The mp5s ROCK with silencers, and nothing like a little nightvision, body armor, and a shotgun for some up close ass kicking! (Shotgun up close is NASTY, the body just flies from the recoil and plops on the ground to bleed to death!!!) ]=) -- GB |
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Posted: 8/19/2001 11:00:01 PM EDT
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I'm more into the real time strategy games. Command and conquer, Starcraft, and MechCommander. The Point of view games bore me to quickly, with Sim games being the exception. I liked driving my own Mech around in Mechwarrior.
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Posted: 8/20/2001 8:03:32 AM EDT
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RTS is cool and sims are ok too, but I like more realistic combat... just makes it more fun. I just can't wait for full VR equipment for FPS. Helmets control views, gloves control actions, and foot controls for movement... mmmm total immersion...
I also forgot to mention that YES, UrbanTerror allows you to switch the firing selector on the rifles to whatever modes they have available. For the grenade launcher you pull up the sight or put it down, for others you can go auto, semi, burst, and even the knife you can chose to slash or throw... ]=) -- GB |
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Posted: 8/20/2001 11:54:55 AM EDT
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reconxl...i know what you mean about lag. todays games are impossible to play through a regular modem anymore. the best way is to have a few friends get network cards & just run through a hub. its fast as hell. anyone play 'no one lives forever'? its pretty damn good.
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Posted: 8/20/2001 5:44:45 PM EDT
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Well here's the take on the military sim I mentioned above. Turns out it's a multiplayer RTS, not a FPS. The military version, called Joint Force Employment, has been in use since May 2000 to train officers in the "fine art of strategic warfare". The civilian version will be called Real War. The scenario is WW III and you'll be in command of all 4 branches of the service (wonder what happened to the 5th?) and will be able to coordinate land, sea, and air strikes. You can keep an eye on units with a chase camera. Weapons and vehicles will be the same as currently available, including planes, cruise missiles, and propaganda leaflets. This is based on real war, as the name implies, so protecting your resources, supply lines, and runways will be a biggy. Sounds like a must have if you like WarCraft and StarCraft. The name of the company is Rival Interactive. Projected release date is August 2001 so keep an eye out.
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Posted: 8/21/2001 2:02:09 AM EDT
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Some times you just need stress relief,
Army men, hit them with the sniper rifle, the shatter, the flame thrower, they scream and turn into a melted puddle of gooo. Some times you just gotta kill pixal people. My other favorite is the flight sim Red Baron, Zipping over no mans land in a Fokker, Taking on all Neups, or Spads, If you get any ground fire, take it personally, go down and teach them their folly. Odd question, Catholics beleive that the thought is even a sin, What about vidio games. TMA |
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Posted: 8/22/2001 7:46:15 AM EDT
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I play Tribes 2. I never played the original much, but I'm definately hooked with this one.
"Shazbot" |
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Posted: 8/22/2001 7:51:02 AM EDT
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I am pretty ruthless in rogues spear. But I found a cooler shootout game in the arcade called Police 911, you stand on a pad and the game moves the way you move so you can jump behind objects to dodge fire from an asian gang of gun smugglers. I do pretty good at it but it costs a dollar to play so I don't do it too often.
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Posted: 8/22/2001 9:04:09 AM EDT
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Alright, question for ya guys... which game would you like me to go into in my first article... I am very familiar with just about everything mentioned in here and in the GD. So I can run a generic article on FPS, RTS, TBS, or any other type of game, or I can go into a specific game such as CS or Tribes2...
Thoughts? -- GB |
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Posted: 8/22/2001 5:53:48 PM EDT
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I'm big into Red Alert 2 at the moment. Actually the Command & Conquer series is all I have played for a couple of years and do it several times a week. It has actually screwed up my life as I spend way to much time on it.
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Posted: 8/31/2001 4:35:47 AM EDT
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Has anyone tried Delta Force 3?
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Posted: 8/31/2001 7:03:08 AM EDT
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I've got DF3 (and 2 and 1) and although its WAY better than DF2, it's still lacking in a lot of areas. I think Flashpoint is a much better example of what DF3 should have been, even without the vehicles and such.
DF3 AI is just horrible as well so it's pretty much versus mode or boredom. (I dunno many people who play single player, but it's often fun to go team play to complete missions.) I actually miss the quality of team play versus AI games and options out there. Not since Quake has the play been solid in this area... (Man I loved throwing the Aliens Total Conversion onto the Quake Engine then teaming up with a few guys to run through the missions!!! VERY KEWL!) ]=) -- GB |
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Posted: 9/3/2001 4:59:18 PM EDT
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Quoted: Alright, question for ya guys... which game would you like me to go into in my first article... I am very familiar with just about everything mentioned in here and in the GD. So I can run a generic article on FPS, RTS, TBS, or any other type of game, or I can go into a specific game such as CS or Tribes2... Thoughts? -- GB I would suggest Hidden and Dangerous 2, here is their website: http://www.hidden-and-dangerous.com It is a FPS set in Europe during WWII where you are fighting as part of the British SAS. Great choice of weapons and unlike Rainbow Six you can pick up more during the fighting stages of the game (since you can only bring in so much at the beginning, this is a nice touch) also you can send your men out to do certain tasks and watch them from a distance. You can find the original on the $10 rack at wally-world; it is definitely worth the $10. The 2nd one is due out this quarter. |
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