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Posted: 12/21/2016 11:43:54 AM EST
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Full auto Garand..a.k.a. M-14
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 11:50:11 AM EST
I seem to remember reading in one of the Ambrose books a soldier converted several M1's in his company to full auto, Band of Brothers maybe?
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 11:58:38 AM EST
Hey!!! Another blank post.
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 12:01:35 PM EST
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This is getting old.  I assume the penguins are working to fix this?
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 12:01:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/21/2016 12:02:25 PM EST by Sharpshooter]
Years ago it was not uncommon to see more than one Garand go through a clip during a service rifle match because the smith did too good a job stoning the trigger and sear... Even with an unprepped trigger and sear shooters with good enough trigger control can get a Garand to double with a fair
amount of regularity.
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 12:01:50 PM EST
I've had one go happy on me using commercial ammo with apparently softer than mil-surplus primers.

First time I'd ever fired one. Rather exciting and there was a desire to repeat the process but I was over ruled by the owner of said firearm.
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 12:03:32 PM EST
Very interesting, I've seen mention of the automatic conversion in some Winchester material, but never in the wild.
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 12:09:32 PM EST
M-14 was easy enough to convert.

That is why so few actual M-14 receivers are available.
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 12:11:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:
I seem to remember reading in one of the Ambrose books a soldier converted several M1's in his company to full auto, Band of Brothers maybe?
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Yes, the Forrest Guth special. IIRC the book also states he later took that rifle to Korea, but it's been a while since I've read it.
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 12:12:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By brickeyee:
M-14 was easy enough to convert.

That is why so few actual M-14 receivers are available.
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Yea, just flip the switch to auto and done!
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 12:16:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ScottsGT:


Yea, just flip the switch to auto and done!
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Most didn't have a switch but a selector lock.
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 12:18:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By C_F:
I've had one go happy on me using commercial ammo with apparently softer than mil-surplus primers.

First time I'd ever fired one. Rather exciting and there was a desire to repeat the process but I was over ruled by the owner of said firearm.
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the garand was designed to run dirty and it chambers ammo with a real hard thump

the floating firing pin gives the primer a nice heavy ding upon chambering

try chambering a round and then pull it out and look at it, you'll see a little dent in the primer

you always want your hand out of the way of that op rod handle in case the round fires, that thing will split your hand wide open

garand designed the gun to run when it was freezing cold and full of dirt, it runs with a ton of energy

look at the size of the extractor, the whole gun is designed for combat reliability
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 12:21:54 PM EST
Not much point really as it has far to much recoil to be effective as a full auto weapon. the M14 had a similar issues and in general 308 is just to larger of a caliber to fire full auto from the shoulder.
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 12:26:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By cyborg543:


the garand was designed to run dirty and it chambers ammo with a real hard thump

the floating firing pin gives the primer a nice heavy ding upon chambering

try chambering a round and then pull it out and look at it, you'll see a little dent in the primer

you always want your hand out of the way of that op rod handle in case the round fires, that thing will split your hand wide open

garand designed the gun to run when it was freezing cold and full of dirt, it runs with a ton of energy

look at the size of the extractor, the whole gun is designed for combat reliability
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well stated;

garand designed the gun to run when it was freezing cold and full of dirt, it runs with a ton of energy

look at the size of the extractor, the whole gun is designed for combat reliability


Link Posted: 12/21/2016 12:26:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SGL_Shooter:


Yes, the Forrest Guth special. IIRC the book also states he later took that rifle to Korea, but it's been a while since I've read it.
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IIRC Guth modifed an M1 carbine not a Garand..
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 12:29:18 PM EST
I bet a FA garand in 30.06 at 950 RPM is a wild beast!!!
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 12:33:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By FLchuck8:
This is getting old.  I assume the penguins are working to fix this?
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Originally Posted By PhulesAu:
Hey!!! Another blank post.
This is getting old.  I assume the penguins are working to fix this?
I see a video, does no one else? 
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 12:33:27 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 12:41:47 PM EST
Here I was expecting the "shoe string" modification.
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 12:45:33 PM EST
I knew a guy that had a full auto BM59.
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 12:47:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By bennnn:
I thought all you needed was a piece of string.
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A string is fine, too.
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 12:53:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By cyborg543:


the garand was designed to run dirty and it chambers ammo with a real hard thump

the floating firing pin gives the primer a nice heavy ding upon chambering

try chambering a round and then pull it out and look at it, you'll see a little dent in the primer

you always want your hand out of the way of that op rod handle in case the round fires, that thing will split your hand wide open

garand designed the gun to run when it was freezing cold and full of dirt, it runs with a ton of energy

look at the size of the extractor, the whole gun is designed for combat reliability
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Oh, I understand the floating pin and serious force involved cause. Was not aware of the "desgined to run freezing cold and full of dirt" part though.
Still want one.
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 1:23:34 PM EST
Ian at forgotten weapons did a vid on a select fire M1 and a magazine fed M1 just a week or so ago. Winchester developed them after the war. 
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 1:26:03 PM EST
What a gip!

No DIY video.
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 1:36:55 PM EST
Awesome! Great post!
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 2:04:32 PM EST
Several of the magazine fed, select fire Garands which the Ordnance Department developed and tested (as the T20 series rifles) had a muzzle brake.
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 2:10:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By broadrunarms:
What a gip!

No DIY video.
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Not that I would endorse such behavior, but if you watch the take down of the rifle, it looks like it would be pretty easy to do.
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 2:33:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By chuckg413:
Ian at forgotten weapons did a vid on a select fire M1 and a magazine fed M1 just a week or so ago. Winchester developed them after the war. 
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There's a wartime full-auto conversion that was done by the War Department.
The gun is in the museum in Leeds.
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 2:36:46 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 72coupe:
I knew a guy that had a full auto BM59.
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I owned one.

Very easy to control in full-auto
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 3:40:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By broadrunarms:
What a gip!

No DIY video.
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Link Posted: 12/21/2016 8:23:04 PM EST
I love Ian's videos.
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