Posted: 4/22/2006 10:55:22 PM EDT
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The other thread got me thinking about the laws in Foreign country's, I've looked into it before, and as far as I can tell other country's generally fall into one of two categories Communist Police States, or 3Rd Word. I looked for 2 criteria developed first world country, and a high level of freedom, but I found that the developed country's like in Western Europe for example have been pussyfoot, and are descending into Communism, while other country's have a high level of freedom, but there 3rd World Shitholes, and the freedom is Anarchy. A few still puzzle me however, what can you tell me about the laws, both the gun laws, and the laws in general in Finland, Switzerland, Sweden, Norway, Panama, New Zealand, Israel, and The Philippines?, how about other general information?, are there any other country's that I'm overlooking?.... |
Dang. I re-read it just to make sure I might have lacked some comprehension, but...still....it hurts. 
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More accurately: Democratic Socialisim: Includes Europe & the 'developed' far-east' (ex China). Citizens are free to choose their leadership, but keep voting for more socialisim (France is a perfect example).... Despotic Dictatorships: Most of the Middle East, most of the 3rd-world. Minimal to no ideology is involved in government - government is in power because they HAVE power, and will do anything to KEEP power. Saddam's Iraq, Syria, Saudi, Pakistan, etc Socialist Dictatorship/Communisim: Venezuela, Cuba, China, N Korea, Vietnam, etc... We all know this one... And of course, there's Iran, the world's only remaning theocracy.... |
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You are talking about politics not law. There are about only two kinds of law in the world, common (english) and roman (civil). Vast generalisation but close enough... The overriding politics of a country determine the substance of those laws but there is a vast amount of information to take into consideration when examining their politics... Western europe on the whole has been democratic socialist since the end of WW2 and before that they were mostly imperialistic. Laws are passed on the basis of what's good for the greatest number of people, individual rights are given less consideration. Politics in continental Europe are also driven by concerns that are often conflicting or even destructive to those in Scandanavia and the British Isles. You ask a question that would be better served by sitting down and reading wikipedia for a couple days. |
The CIA lists the Holy See as having an 'Ecclesiastical' government. They further define the terms: Ecclesiastical - a government administrated by a church. Theocracy - a form of government in which a Deity is recognized as the supreme civil ruler, but the Deity's laws are interpreted by ecclesiastical authorities (bishops, mullahs, etc.); a government subject to religious authority. No 'render unto Caesar' with a theocracy. |
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RE: foreign gun laws... In Switzerland, they have government issue full auto assault rifles in most every home. They have a militia type homeland defense, and members are encouraged to keep their shooting skills sharp by participating in rifle matches. It's not unusual to see people walking around in public with assault rifles slung over their shoulders during match season. In Norway, Home Guard (like the National Guard in the US) members are allowed to take their issued full auto weapons home with them to practice with. There is a strict licensing and permitting scheme for guns from what I understand. I don't know about Finland and Sweden but they may be similar to Norway. Israel has national open carry IIRC and it's not unusual to see people in public with pistols in holsters. I don't know about the other countries you asked about. |
The gun laws in Israel ARE very strict… most of the guns people see in the news belong to the Government. Many have asked about the easy availability of firearms in the State of Israel, and whether or not they can bring their guns with them whenvisiting or settling there. Some have visited Israel, or have seenphotographs of people walking the streets in Israel carrying firearms.Nearly everyone interested in the preservation of the Second Amendmentin America points to Israel as proof of how ordinary citizens, armed and trained, are a deterrent to crime and terrorism. And it's true! However,a quick glance at the rigid gun laws in Israel will show that it has far stricter firearms laws than many people, including myself, previously thought. Enjoy reading the translation as much as I enjoyed translating the document! In liberty, Rabbi R. Mermelstein The Israel Dept. of the Interior makes notification to the general public the requirements necessary for the obtaining of a permit to possess a firearm: 1. Applicant must be a permanent resident of Israel for 3 consecutive years prior to making application for a firearms permit. 2. Applicant years of age. 3. The permit request must be for personal use, not to engage in the business of firearms sales. 4. Applicant must fall into one of the following categories: a. Part-time reservist (volunteer) for 3 years- may own 1 handgun b. Such a reservist (volunteer) is a member of a gun club- may own 1rifle c. Professional, licensed public transportation driver, transporting a minimum of 5 passengers- may own 1 handgun d. Licensed animal control officer- may own 2 hunting rifles, *not*full automatic weapons, or semi-automatic weapons with a limited capacity magazine. e. Full-time dealer of jewelry or large sums of cash or valuables- may own 1 handgun West Bank and Gaza Strip Settlers: 1. A resident in a militarily strategic buffer zone, essential to the security of the State of Israel- may own 1 handgun 2. A business owner in these geographic areas- may own 1 handgun Veterans: 1. Veterans of the Regular Army honorably discharged with the rank of noncommissioned officer, and veterans of the Reserve Army with the rank of regimental commander- may own 1 handgun 2. Retired law enforcement officers with the rank of sergeant- may own 1handgun 3. Retired prison guards with the rank of squadron commander- may own 1handgun Individuals: Upon presenting documentation that one is about to receive a souvenir, aprize, an inheritance, or an award of appreciation from the Israel military. www.jpfo.org/israel-firearms.htm |
Care to name one 'communist' country in Europe? Care to name one were the 'communists' have any significant representation? So your 'perfect' country allows open carry and has no restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms… they are truly 'free' people in those countries? Somalia fit's those criteria…  ANdy |
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Most of Western Europe is moving towards universal gun laws; While it has gotten worse in some places, it has actually gotten better in others. For example, in Germany people can now buy "assault weapons" when they were not allowed to before, and people in Ireland can buy more then the .22s and shotguns allowed before. However, gunowner ship requires a licence. In Germany, there are three types; Sport shooter, Hunter, and Collector.. Each type has different restrictions on what you can buy, how many, etc...For example, the sport shooter licence takes 6 months active (logged) participation at a gun club, before you can apply through the club to get your licence... Then each purchase must be approved through the gun club.. They will issue you paperwork to purchase a ".223 autoloader" or whatever...But the sport shooter gun licence will not allow you to purchase a semi Sig 552, or 6" barreled AR..But this is ok with a hunter licence.. There are storage requirements, ammo purchases (only for the calibers on your licence) are logged, etc. German gunowners that I have talked to dont mind the restrictions at all; THey see the US way as barbaric, and point to fact that legal guns in Germany are almost never used in a crime.. |
Home Guard soldiers are not allowed to take your service weapon home, they have to do it. They had to turn in their firing pins 3-4 years ago after a series of incidents, but it is perfectly legal to buy and posess one... The Home Guard will give you a firing pin if you want to use your gun for practise/competition on your own spare time. Sweden has about the same system, although it is pretty common that their arms is stored in a nearby military base and they don't keep ammo for the gun at home. Finland has no home guard. As for the licensing part, you need to apply and claim the you have some sort of need for every gun. Valid claims are hunting, collection (a nightmare to get hold of ) and sport shooting. It is not a big probelm to buy _one_ AR-15, but it's hard to get a permit for several guns that suits the same need. |
| In Estonia we have pretty good gun laws. We can own both handguns and longguns and we can use them for self defence. Also we have concealed carry. If you join National Militia you can keep your full auto rifle at home, for other people its semi-auto only. We do have to have gun license but everyone who hasnt got a criminal record or history of psychic illnesses gets one without any problems. |
I believe Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan are theocracies as well, they have Islamic law. |
Either G3 (actually a swedish Bofors built copy called AK4) or Galil AR. But it is also possible to buy your own rifle and use it in Militia service. Then the sky is the limit, or rather your wallet. |
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