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Posted: 5/27/2014 2:11:03 PM EDT
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Outside temp?
Is your AC on? |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 2:12:45 PM EDT
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Haven't noticed anything extraordinary.
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Posted: 5/27/2014 2:13:24 PM EDT
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Could be the AC running instead.
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Posted: 5/27/2014 3:56:45 PM EDT
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It was 102 outside and the air conditioner was running. I shut off the AC and the radiator fan kept going full speed.
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Posted: 5/27/2014 4:00:27 PM EDT
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It's not January. It's HOT outside OP. Report back in December. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 4:01:36 PM EDT
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Could it be because of the water cooled turbos?
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Posted: 5/27/2014 4:01:37 PM EDT
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Turbos get kinda warm.
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Posted: 5/27/2014 4:08:14 PM EDT
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Not on mine.
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Posted: 5/27/2014 4:10:20 PM EDT
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The answer is to always run more boost.
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Posted: 5/27/2014 4:11:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Turbos get kinda warm. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 4:17:38 PM EDT
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The answer is to always run more boost. I'm fixin to put the methanol/water injection on mine. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 4:26:31 PM EDT
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I bought a 2014 Ford F-150 Ecoboost. Lately I have noticed the radiator fan running at full speed all the time. Is this normal? Does anyone else have this problem? Any info on this is appreciated. Thanks ETA: Be back later this evening... It will shut-off once you drive, and start up when you sit in traffic (like a traffic light)...its worse in hot weather and with AC on (I tend not to turn the AC ON even when its 90, so I notice the fan running when I have the windows down) <--2011 and 2014 ECO F150 owner.... |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 4:27:29 PM EDT
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The wife's Explorer Sport Eco's fans run like that.
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Posted: 5/27/2014 4:28:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not January. It's HOT outside OP. Report back in December. To run at full speed every time? That seems a little odd, but I am looking for opinions from those who have experience with a Ford EcoBoost. ETA: Do you have an EcoBoost? I respect your Ham knowledge. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 4:30:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It will shut-off once you drive, and start up when you sit in traffic (like a traffic light)...its worse in hot weather and with AC on (I tend not to turn the AC ON even when its 90, so I notice the fan running when I have the windows down) <--2011 and 2014 ECO F150 owner.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I bought a 2014 Ford F-150 Ecoboost. Lately I have noticed the radiator fan running at full speed all the time. Is this normal? Does anyone else have this problem? Any info on this is appreciated. Thanks ETA: Be back later this evening... It will shut-off once you drive, and start up when you sit in traffic (like a traffic light)...its worse in hot weather and with AC on (I tend not to turn the AC ON even when its 90, so I notice the fan running when I have the windows down) <--2011 and 2014 ECO F150 owner.... It doesn't shut off unless I shut the engine off. The temp gauge needle is right in the middle of the temperature spectrum. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 4:30:29 PM EDT
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Does the fan come on as soon as you start the truck? Or only after it reaches operating temp?
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Posted: 5/27/2014 4:33:28 PM EDT
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To run at full speed every time? That seems a little odd, but I am looking for opinions from those who have experience with a Ford EcoBoost. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's not January. It's HOT outside OP. Report back in December. To run at full speed every time? That seems a little odd, but I am looking for opinions from those who have experience with a Ford EcoBoost. You have three things that need cooler air (4 actually). The "intercooler" -technically they are all intercoolers, but the word tends to stick with the cooled air that goes into the turbos-, the radiator, the oil cooler and the transmission cooler (if you have one of the tow packages) |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 4:34:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does the fan come on as soon as you start the truck? Or only after it reaches operating temp? As soon as I start it. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 4:34:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You have three things that need cooler air (4 actually). The "intercooler" -technically they are all intercoolers, but the word tends to stick with the cooled air that goes into the turbos-, the radiator, the oil cooler and the transmission cooler (if you have one of the tow packages) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's not January. It's HOT outside OP. Report back in December. To run at full speed every time? That seems a little odd, but I am looking for opinions from those who have experience with a Ford EcoBoost. You have three things that need cooler air (4 actually). The "intercooler" -technically they are all intercoolers, but the word tends to stick with the cooled air that goes into the turbos-, the radiator, the oil cooler and the transmission cooler (if you have one of the tow packages) There are 3 radiators up front. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 4:34:56 PM EDT
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As soon as I start it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does the fan come on as soon as you start the truck? Or only after it reaches operating temp? As soon as I start it. to be clear we are talking about it comes on at the first start of the morning when it's cold right? IF so then you probably have a failed fan controller and it's in failsafe mode. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 4:39:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: to be clear we are talking about it comes on at the first start of the morning when it's cold right? IF so then you probably have a failed fan controller and it's in failsafe mode. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Does the fan come on as soon as you start the truck? Or only after it reaches operating temp? As soon as I start it. to be clear we are talking about it comes on at the first start of the morning when it's cold right? IF so then you probably have a failed fan controller and it's in failsafe mode. Yep. First thing in the morning.  I guess I'll be taking it in to be serviced. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 4:40:21 PM EDT
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My body got a Ecoboost and his fan is also on a lot and loud as hell.
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Posted: 5/27/2014 4:42:33 PM EDT
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to be clear we are talking about it comes on at the first start of the morning when it's cold right? IF so then you probably have a failed fan controller and it's in failsafe mode. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does the fan come on as soon as you start the truck? Or only after it reaches operating temp? As soon as I start it. to be clear we are talking about it comes on at the first start of the morning when it's cold right? IF so then you probably have a failed fan controller and it's in failsafe mode. I doubt it, the ECO holds a lot of heat (turbos are partially to blame). I have driven the truck, let it sit for a few hours and start it and the fans kick on. I even opened the hood three or four hours later and the amount of heat that is still in the bay is "impressive" I assume the fan running in full mode is normal when high external temps are present AND/OR the AC is on. OP: Also, if this is your first ECO...the steam coming out of the hood while you are at a light (or stopped and the engine is running) when it is raining (or snowing) is normal :) |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 4:48:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To run at full speed every time? That seems a little odd, but I am looking for opinions from those who have experience with a Ford EcoBoost. ETA: Do you have an EcoBoost? I respect your Ham knowledge. No. I quit Ford while the EcoBoost was still being developed and didn't get a change to lay hands on it. With the water cooled turbos, charge cooler and added heat in May, I'm not surprised to hear the fan is running on high most/all the time. When the engine is cold with the AC off, does it still run full time on high? |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 4:58:00 PM EDT
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I haven't noticed it on the last two ecoboost trucks I have had. But if it is 100 degrees outside I would not doubt that the fans would run balls out from the get go. You have an air intake charge temp sensor, liquid cooled turbos, ac condenser and assorted other sensors telling the ecu to cool things. The fan cools the radiator, trans cooler and intercooler all of which exchange heat and need air running across them. If it is kicking the fans on high from the start up in 70 or 80 degree weather then I would question it.
Those engine bays hold an impressive amount of heat with the hot turbos under there. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 5:29:36 PM EDT
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Its normal.... I have an Ecobeast.
EDIT: If right in the morning, you crank truck, and it comes on full blast... not normal. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 5:31:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its normal.... I have an Ecobeast. Dang... If that's the case it almost makes as much noise as a diesel. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 6:10:19 PM EDT
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It was 102 outside and the air conditioner was running. I shut off the AC and the radiator fan kept going full speed. Because it was still 102 after you shut off the AC. 
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Posted: 5/27/2014 6:11:37 PM EDT
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To run at full speed every time? That seems a little odd, but I am looking for opinions from those who have experience with a Ford EcoBoost. ETA: Do you have an EcoBoost? I respect your Ham knowledge. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's not January. It's HOT outside OP. Report back in December. To run at full speed every time? That seems a little odd, but I am looking for opinions from those who have experience with a Ford EcoBoost. ETA: Do you have an EcoBoost? I respect your Ham knowledge. Cooling fans only run at full speed. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 6:18:23 PM EDT
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Cooling fans only run at full speed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's not January. It's HOT outside OP. Report back in December. To run at full speed every time? That seems a little odd, but I am looking for opinions from those who have experience with a Ford EcoBoost. ETA: Do you have an EcoBoost? I respect your Ham knowledge. Cooling fans only run at full speed. If you mean "run" as in "pulling power from the belt," then you're right. If you mean "run" as in "turn," then no. Clutch pack between fan and shaft makes it pinwheel at speed, because if you were running it at belt speed, it would actually overheat the engine in normal driving. (Not saying you don't know that, just wanted to make sure it was clear for OP) OP, it's probably normal. As long as it quiets down when you start driving you'll be okay. If it stays loud all the time, moving at speeds 15-20mph+, then you have a problem. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 6:23:44 PM EDT
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We bought an F150 King Ranch with the V6 Eco Boost engine last year. I have not noticed the cooling fan running excessively and it does get hot here in Texas. The one question I have for you is whether you have added any accessory that partially covers the grill opening below the bumper? If you have done anything that blocks or restricts the airflow will cause the engine to run hotter than normal and trigger the cooling fan.
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Posted: 5/27/2014 6:31:36 PM EDT
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If you mean "run" as in "pulling power from the belt," then you're right. If you mean "run" as in "turn," then no. Clutch pack between fan and shaft makes it pinwheel at speed, because if you were running it at belt speed, it would actually overheat the engine in normal driving. (Not saying you don't know that, just wanted to make sure it was clear for OP) OP, it's probably normal. As long as it quiets down when you start driving you'll be okay. If it stays loud all the time, moving at speeds 15-20mph+, then you have a problem. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's not January. It's HOT outside OP. Report back in December. To run at full speed every time? That seems a little odd, but I am looking for opinions from those who have experience with a Ford EcoBoost. ETA: Do you have an EcoBoost? I respect your Ham knowledge. Cooling fans only run at full speed. If you mean "run" as in "pulling power from the belt," then you're right. If you mean "run" as in "turn," then no. Clutch pack between fan and shaft makes it pinwheel at speed, because if you were running it at belt speed, it would actually overheat the engine in normal driving. (Not saying you don't know that, just wanted to make sure it was clear for OP) OP, it's probably normal. As long as it quiets down when you start driving you'll be okay. If it stays loud all the time, moving at speeds 15-20mph+, then you have a problem. We are talking about electric fans. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 6:41:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We bought an F150 King Ranch with the V6 Eco Boost engine last year. I have not noticed the cooling fan running excessively and it does get hot here in Texas. The one question I have for you is whether you have added any accessory that partially covers the grill opening below the bumper? If you have done anything that blocks or restricts the airflow will cause the engine to run hotter than normal and trigger the cooling fan. The only thing I put in there was the factory grill that snaps in. I don't think it would restrict air flow as it was made for the opening and only has 2 vertical fins. Otherwise it's wide open. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 8:11:04 PM EDT
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Cooling fans only run at full speed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's not January. It's HOT outside OP. Report back in December. To run at full speed every time? That seems a little odd, but I am looking for opinions from those who have experience with a Ford EcoBoost. ETA: Do you have an EcoBoost? I respect your Ham knowledge. Cooling fans only run at full speed. Oh yeah? While I do not know what they currently use in evoboost trucks they most certainly make dual speed fans and have for many many years. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 8:15:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. First thing in the morning. I guess I'll be taking it in to be serviced. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Does the fan come on as soon as you start the truck? Or only after it reaches operating temp? As soon as I start it. to be clear we are talking about it comes on at the first start of the morning when it's cold right? IF so then you probably have a failed fan controller and it's in failsafe mode. Yep. First thing in the morning. I guess I'll be taking it in to be serviced. Get a TAP rental if you need to leave it. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 8:17:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cooling fans only run at full speed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's not January. It's HOT outside OP. Report back in December. To run at full speed every time? That seems a little odd, but I am looking for opinions from those who have experience with a Ford EcoBoost. ETA: Do you have an EcoBoost? I respect your Ham knowledge. Cooling fans only run at full speed. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 8:17:35 PM EDT
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Oh yeah? While I do not know what they currently use in evoboost trucks they most certainly make dual speed fans and have for many many years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's not January. It's HOT outside OP. Report back in December. To run at full speed every time? That seems a little odd, but I am looking for opinions from those who have experience with a Ford EcoBoost. ETA: Do you have an EcoBoost? I respect your Ham knowledge. Cooling fans only run at full speed. Oh yeah? While I do not know what they currently use in evoboost trucks they most certainly make dual speed fans and have for many many years. Okay. I have never seen a dual speed cooling fan on any vehicle, but you may be onto something there. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 8:18:27 PM EDT
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HI-LO speed electric fans have been around 20 years. The last decade has seen variable speed fans. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's not January. It's HOT outside OP. Report back in December. To run at full speed every time? That seems a little odd, but I am looking for opinions from those who have experience with a Ford EcoBoost. ETA: Do you have an EcoBoost? I respect your Ham knowledge. Cooling fans only run at full speed. In vehicles? |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 8:20:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you mean "run" as in "pulling power from the belt," then you're right. If you mean "run" as in "turn," then no. Clutch pack between fan and shaft makes it pinwheel at speed, because if you were running it at belt speed, it would actually overheat the engine in normal driving. (Not saying you don't know that, just wanted to make sure it was clear for OP) OP, it's probably normal. As long as it quiets down when you start driving you'll be okay. If it stays loud all the time, moving at speeds 15-20mph+, then you have a problem. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's not January. It's HOT outside OP. Report back in December. To run at full speed every time? That seems a little odd, but I am looking for opinions from those who have experience with a Ford EcoBoost. ETA: Do you have an EcoBoost? I respect your Ham knowledge. Cooling fans only run at full speed. If you mean "run" as in "pulling power from the belt," then you're right. If you mean "run" as in "turn," then no. Clutch pack between fan and shaft makes it pinwheel at speed, because if you were running it at belt speed, it would actually overheat the engine in normal driving. (Not saying you don't know that, just wanted to make sure it was clear for OP) OP, it's probably normal. As long as it quiets down when you start driving you'll be okay. If it stays loud all the time, moving at speeds 15-20mph+, then you have a problem. OP's Ecoboost is electric. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 8:21:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In vehicles? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's not January. It's HOT outside OP. Report back in December. To run at full speed every time? That seems a little odd, but I am looking for opinions from those who have experience with a Ford EcoBoost. ETA: Do you have an EcoBoost? I respect your Ham knowledge. Cooling fans only run at full speed. In vehicles? |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 8:24:10 PM EDT
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Yes. Obsolete now with Pules Width Modulated variable speed controllers, but still used., Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To run at full speed every time? That seems a little odd, but I am looking for opinions from those who have experience with a Ford EcoBoost. ETA: Do you have an EcoBoost? I respect your Ham knowledge. Cooling fans only run at full speed. In vehicles? Well hell, learn something new every day. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 8:27:55 PM EDT
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Have you switched to 93 octane fuel? The 13-14 Ecoboosts is recommended by Ford to run premium in hot weather or when towing. Seems to help a lot with the fan issues in the Ford Texas forums.
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Posted: 5/27/2014 8:29:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup. Something is amiss. That is what the warranty is for. Get a TAP rental if you need to leave it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Does the fan come on as soon as you start the truck? Or only after it reaches operating temp? As soon as I start it. to be clear we are talking about it comes on at the first start of the morning when it's cold right? IF so then you probably have a failed fan controller and it's in failsafe mode. Yep. First thing in the morning. I guess I'll be taking it in to be serviced. Get a TAP rental if you need to leave it. What is a TAP rental? |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 8:30:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you switched to 93 octane fuel? The 13-14 Ecoboosts is recommended by Ford to run premium in hot weather or when towing. Seems to help a lot with the fan issues in the Ford Texas forums. Never heard of that. Hmmmm, I wonder how that helps? |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 8:34:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well hell, learn something new every day. Here's one from way back  |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 8:36:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is a TAP rental? |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 8:36:49 PM EDT
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You have three things that need cooler air (4 actually). The "intercooler" -technically they are all intercoolers, but the word tends to stick with the cooled air that goes into the turbos-, the radiator, the oil cooler and the transmission cooler (if you have one of the tow packages) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's not January. It's HOT outside OP. Report back in December. To run at full speed every time? That seems a little odd, but I am looking for opinions from those who have experience with a Ford EcoBoost. You have three things that need cooler air (4 actually). The "intercooler" -technically they are all intercoolers, but the word tends to stick with the cooled air that goes into the turbos-, the radiator, the oil cooler and the transmission cooler (if you have one of the tow packages) The air to air intake inter cooler is actually after the compressor section of the turbochargers. So technically, it would be "cooling the air coming out of the turbos", not going in. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 8:37:10 PM EDT
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Never heard of that. Hmmmm, I wonder how that helps? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Have you switched to 93 octane fuel? The 13-14 Ecoboosts is recommended by Ford to run premium in hot weather or when towing. Seems to help a lot with the fan issues in the Ford Texas forums. Never heard of that. Hmmmm, I wonder how that helps? Premium actually burns cooler than regular. I think. Every Ecoboost we have had traded in has had this fan problem that was either fixed by us after the trade-in or by the previous owner before trading in. Once these trucks start running out of warranty people start dumping them. The bloom is off that rose. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 8:38:41 PM EDT
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Never heard of that. Hmmmm, I wonder how that helps? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Have you switched to 93 octane fuel? The 13-14 Ecoboosts is recommended by Ford to run premium in hot weather or when towing. Seems to help a lot with the fan issues in the Ford Texas forums. Never heard of that. Hmmmm, I wonder how that helps? From owners manual: 3.5L V6 EcoBoostTM engine Your vehicle is designed to run on regular fuel with an octane rating of 87 or higher. For best overall performance, premium fuel with an octane rating of 91 or higher is recommended. The performance gained by using premium fuel will be most noticeable in hot weather or in severe duty applications such as towing a trailer. Seems to help in Texas. I have no experience with it though. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 8:48:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From owners manual: 3.5L V6 EcoBoostTM engine Your vehicle is designed to run on regular fuel with an octane rating of 87 or higher. For best overall performance, premium fuel with an octane rating of 91 or higher is recommended. The performance gained by using premium fuel will be most noticeable in hot weather or in severe duty applications such as towing a trailer. Seems to help in Texas. I have no experience with it though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Have you switched to 93 octane fuel? The 13-14 Ecoboosts is recommended by Ford to run premium in hot weather or when towing. Seems to help a lot with the fan issues in the Ford Texas forums. Never heard of that. Hmmmm, I wonder how that helps? From owners manual: 3.5L V6 EcoBoostTM engine Your vehicle is designed to run on regular fuel with an octane rating of 87 or higher. For best overall performance, premium fuel with an octane rating of 91 or higher is recommended. The performance gained by using premium fuel will be most noticeable in hot weather or in severe duty applications such as towing a trailer. Seems to help in Texas. I have no experience with it though. |
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