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Posted: 7/21/2008 8:55:40 AM EDT

http://kdka.com/national/emergency.workers.st.2.775713.html

MAPLEWOOD, Mo. (AP) ― A suburban St. Louis firefighter was shot to death Monday and two other emergency workers were injured in a standoff with a gunman.

The incident began with a report of a pickup truck fire Monday morning in Maplewood, just southwest of St. Louis. When firefighters arrived, someone began firing shots. Police responded, and at least one officer was also reportedly struck.

St. Mary's Hospital spokesman Eric Clark says a firefighter/paramedic from Maplewood was killed.

A Maplewood police officer was also taken to the hospital and was being treated for a gunshot wound to the right shoulder. Clark says his injury is not considered life-threatening.

The third injured emergency worker was taken to another hospital. There was no word on the worker's condition.

Posted: 7/21/2008 8:57:55 AM EDT

[#1]

Damn

I hope this is not a trend

Posted: 7/21/2008 8:58:10 AM EDT

[#2]

Posted: 7/21/2008 8:58:32 AM EDT

[#3]

that is crazy shit

im in stl putting on TV now

Posted: 7/21/2008 8:59:17 AM EDT

[#4]

wow

Have a family member in Chicago who is a paramedic. They wear vests and are shot at regularly.

Posted: 7/21/2008 8:59:21 AM EDT

[#5]

Damn.

Who expects to get shot at a car fire?

Another sad reminder... take nothing for granted. There's no such thing as a "routine" call.

Posted: 7/21/2008 9:00:08 AM EDT

[#6]

Its pretty fucked up.

Posted: 7/21/2008 9:02:11 AM EDT

[#7]

Wild conjecture: The shooter torched his car that was about to be repossesed and didn't want anyone getting in the way of his insurance check.

Posted: 7/21/2008 9:02:30 AM EDT

[#8]

RIP

Posted: 7/21/2008 9:04:18 AM EDT

[#9]

WTF!!!!!

Someone sets a truck on fire, and then shoots at the firefighters as they arive????

Posted: 7/21/2008 9:05:38 AM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
Damn

I hope this is not a trend

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- A man with a knife who stole an officer's patrol car and crashed it into other police cars late Sunday night was shot and killed by police, according to Jacksonville Sheriff's Office Chief Rick Graham.

Graham said the car thief tried to stab the other officers with a large knife. Two officers opened fire on the suspect, killing him, Graham said.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/16939401/detail.html

Not totally the same type of story but just it's just one more case where criminals don't give a fuck and will attack officers.

Posted: 7/21/2008 9:07:35 AM EDT

[#11]

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WTF!!!!!

Someone sets a truck on fire, and then shoots at the firefighters as they arive????

That's how it works.

There's a lot of evil MFers out there who will kill you for absolutely nothing. Setting a car fire to get some FD people there just to play shooting gallery isn't beyond the capability of a startling number of our fellow Americans.

Posted: 7/21/2008 9:08:24 AM EDT

[#12]

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Wild conjecture: The shooter torched his car that was about to be repossesed and didn't want anyone getting in the way of his insurance check.

Not a bad guess, but it could just be an a-hole who set fire to the car to get some targets to shoot at.

Posted: 7/21/2008 9:08:54 AM EDT

[#13]

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Not totally the same type of story but just it's just one more case where criminals don't give a fuck and will attack officers.

...and yet another example that we don't use the death penalty enough in this country.

Posted: 7/21/2008 9:09:03 AM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
Damn.

Who expects to get shot at a car fire?

Another sad reminder... take nothing for granted. There's no such thing as a "routine" call.

Amen to that.

Posted: 7/21/2008 9:10:20 AM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
wow

Have a family member in Chicago who is a paramedic. They wear vests and are shot at regularly.

What's that all about then?

Posted: 7/21/2008 9:10:38 AM EDT

[#16]

local news says 1 fifer fighter dead 2 cops wounded and the house the suspect was suspected of shooting from has burned to the ground

Posted: 7/21/2008 9:12:04 AM EDT

[#17]

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What's that all about then?

Well, if you just shot Boo and a couple of paramedics show up trying to save Boo's life and there's a gat in your hand, are you just gonna stand there and let them save him?

Posted: 7/21/2008 9:12:45 AM EDT

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local news says 1 fifer fighter dead 2 cops wounded and the house the suspect was suspected of shooting from has burned to the ground

Sounds to me like somebody went off the deep end and was looking for a blaze of glory ending.

Posted: 7/21/2008 9:12:46 AM EDT

[#19]

Fucking with firemen is one sure way to end up on my personal shit list.

Posted: 7/21/2008 9:20:08 AM EDT

[#20]

FOX just said the dead firefighter was a probie.

Posted: 7/21/2008 9:22:06 AM EDT

[#21]

Just posted this over in BOTS.

RIP brother.

Posted: 7/21/2008 9:22:07 AM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
FOX just said the dead firefighter was a probie.

only 22 years old.

Posted: 7/21/2008 9:26:55 AM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
WTF!!!!!

Someone sets a truck on fire, and then shoots at the firefighters as they arive????

That's how it works.

There's a lot of evil MFers out there who will kill you for absolutely nothing. Setting a car fire to get some FD people there just to play shooting gallery isn't beyond the capability of a startling number of our fellow Americans.

There have been a few cases where nutjobs have set fire to shit and then opened up on the responders, whether driving Big Red Trucks or Squad Cars.

And the guys at the FD laughed when I told them about attending a (police) Officer Survival course a few years ago.

RIP Brother.

Posted: 7/21/2008 9:47:11 AM EDT

[#24]

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And the guys at the FD laughed when I told them about attending a (police) Officer Survival course a few years ago.

To this day, I still use a lot of the training that I got on the cops... and that was 15 years ago.

One way to tell which firefighters are ex-cops: look for the guys that never stand in front of the door that they're knocking on.

Posted: 7/21/2008 10:55:00 AM EDT

[#25]

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And the guys at the FD laughed when I told them about attending a (police) Officer Survival course a few years ago.

RIP Brother.

try explaining that you're bringing kevlar in the event of a hurricane or disaster to ride the box. people thought i was nuts until this morning

Posted: 7/21/2008 10:57:51 AM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:

And the guys at the FD laughed when I told them about attending a (police) Officer Survival course a few years ago.

RIP Brother.

try explaining that you're bringing kevlar in the event of a hurricane or disaster to ride the box. people thought i was nuts until this morning

In case of disaster you may find alot of my rigs with rifles in them.

Posted: 7/21/2008 11:03:17 AM EDT

[#27]

A little off topic but St louis seems to be desperate for popo

Story related

Posted: 7/21/2008 11:04:49 AM EDT

[#28]

Isolated incident. The shooter was a "good boy who was mis understood". He "Kept to himself". He's mama said he'd never hurt a fly.

Fing shit bad criminal, I hope he burns.

Posted: 7/21/2008 11:06:17 AM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:

And the guys at the FD laughed when I told them about attending a (police) Officer Survival course a few years ago.

RIP Brother.

try explaining that you're bringing kevlar in the event of a hurricane or disaster to ride the box. people thought i was nuts until this morning

In case of disaster you may find alot of my rigs with rifles in them.

same here... i'll probably be in my M35 doing high water rescues, and armed to the teeth

Posted: 7/21/2008 11:07:19 AM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:
WTF!!!!!

Someone sets a truck on fire, and then shoots at the firefighters as they arive????

That's how it works.

There's a lot of evil MFers out there who will kill you for absolutely nothing. Setting a car fire to get some FD people there just to play shooting gallery isn't beyond the capability of a startling number of our fellow Americans.

As I recently read in a novel:
Americans don't really believe that evil exists.

Posted: 7/21/2008 11:09:31 AM EDT

[#31]

save the firefighters, let those people's shit burn if they are gonna shoot on first responders

Posted: 7/21/2008 11:09:44 AM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:

Quoted:
And the guys at the FD laughed when I told them about attending a (police) Officer Survival course a few years ago.

To this day, I still use a lot of the training that I got on the cops... and that was 15 years ago.

One way to tell which firefighters are ex-cops: look for the guys that never stand in front of the door that they're knocking on.

Or who stop just before entering on a rescue call and just listen for a second or two.

Posted: 7/21/2008 11:17:28 AM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:
wow

Have a family member in Chicago who is a paramedic. They wear vests and are shot at regularly.

That is all kinds of fucked up.

Posted: 7/21/2008 11:24:03 AM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:

Quoted:
wow

Have a family member in Chicago who is a paramedic. They wear vests and are shot at regularly.

That is all kinds of fucked up.

But,but,but, handguns are banned in Chicago, nothing like that can happen when the evil guns are banned.

Posted: 7/21/2008 11:27:44 AM EDT

[#35]

WTF

Seal off the neighborhoods, cut off all access and utilities, no ems FF or LEO's.

Posted: 7/21/2008 11:30:45 AM EDT

[#36]

Hopefully the wounded pull through.

Posted: 7/21/2008 11:33:06 AM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:
And the guys at the FD laughed when I told them about attending a (police) Officer Survival course a few years ago.

To this day, I still use a lot of the training that I got on the cops... and that was 15 years ago.

One way to tell which firefighters are ex-cops: look for the guys that never stand in front of the door that they're knocking on.

Or who stop just before entering on a rescue call and just listen for a second or two.

Never been PD, or even had training with them, but thank goodness I had some good EMS instructors eons ago who taught those exact tactics.

Tragic.

I need to call my hubby... he's at the station today.

Posted: 7/21/2008 11:52:44 AM EDT

[#38]

During our riots in 1975, our firemen were getting shot at when responding to fires on one particular side of the city. We then started escorting them in and stayed with them on the calls.

Posted: 7/21/2008 12:18:45 PM EDT

[#39]

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During our riots in 1975, our firemen were getting shot at when responding to fires on one particular side of the city. We then started escorting them in and stayed with them on the calls.

Sounds like the Metro division and LASD brothers rolling escort with LA City FD during the South Central "disturbance" in LA.

Found some interesting research about that on another board that provides a fair amount of evidence that the King verdict was just an excuse, and that numerous ne-er do well types had been planning some form of event for months... the verdict was simply a good spark to light the powderkeg.

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Posted: 7/21/2008 6:51:21 PM EDT

[#40]

Sinceless, speechless. I hope the POS that did this burns in hell.

use this link to read another story and it also has a photo of the fallen brother.

cms.firehouse.com/web/online/In-The-Line-Of-Duty/Friends--Family-Remember-Fallen-Missouri-Firefighter/39$60302

Link heated - thanks for the update.

-T7

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