Posted: 10/10/2012 1:48:56 PM EDT
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I was just watching en episode of Emergency! and was reminded of something I always wanted to know. What are the black pipes on the sides of some fire trucks?  |
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dont forget the duct tape while drafting, if you cant pull a vac on your lines its probably the seal between the hoses, duct tape the shit out of it and BAM water at the pump eye 
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Another tool in the tool box... If you can get close enough to the water source. Used on and for dry hydrants & dump tanks too...
Most of our engines here carry a turbo draft.... cause lots of times we can't get close enough to the water source with out getting stuck or caving in a septic or something. One thing I thought funny... The aftermath of hurricane Katrina.. when all the fires were breaking out... media said fire department of new orleans was having trouble finding hydrants to combat the fires due to the flooding.... Huh! You're standing in all the water you need.  Draft that shit!
Can't really blame them 'tho... they probably didn't or don't even carry squirrel tail or hard suction hose.. a lot of municipal fire departments don't anymore.
Drafting is a lost art to a lot of driver operators........ |
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We have hard suction just incase the big earthquake hits and our hydrants go T.U.
But that hard suction hose is buried some where at each station we do not carry it on the engine takes up too much valuable space. Every few years we have a driver/engineer training day and they get to practice drafting. |
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Another tool in the tool box... If you can get close enough to the water source. Used on and for dry hydrants & dump tanks too... Most of our engines here carry a turbo draft.... cause lots of times we can't get close enough to the water source with out getting stuck or caving in a septic or something. One thing I thought funny... The aftermath of hurricane Katrina.. when all the fires were breaking out... media said fire department of new orleans was having trouble finding hydrants to combat the fires due to the flooding.... Huh! You're standing in all the water you need. Draft that shit!
Can't really blame them 'tho... they probably didn't or don't even carry squirrel tail or hard suction hose.. a lot of municipal fire departments don't anymore.
Drafting is a lost art to a lot of driver operators........ The other concern with drafting the flood water is sucking up debris that would destroy the pump. |
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You can also use it to move water between portable tanks!!
Hard Line between two tanks... 
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Another tool in the tool box... If you can get close enough to the water source. Used on and for dry hydrants & dump tanks too... Most of our engines here carry a turbo draft.... cause lots of times we can't get close enough to the water source with out getting stuck or caving in a septic or something. One thing I thought funny... The aftermath of hurricane Katrina.. when all the fires were breaking out... media said fire department of new orleans was having trouble finding hydrants to combat the fires due to the flooding.... Huh! You're standing in all the water you need. Draft that shit!
Can't really blame them 'tho... they probably didn't or don't even carry squirrel tail or hard suction hose.. a lot of municipal fire departments don't anymore.
Drafting is a lost art to a lot of driver operators........ The other concern with drafting the flood water is sucking up debris that would destroy the pump. we always used a screen when drafting from stock tanks |
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You can also use it to move water between portable tanks!! Hard Line between two tanks... http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii65/TexomaTrash/arfcom/052.jpg They used to set up drop tanks during the FD open house when I was a kid. They would fill them up to the top with shredded paper and then toss in quarters. Kids all had to race through it to find them that shit was fun. |
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Another tool in the tool box... If you can get close enough to the water source. Used on and for dry hydrants & dump tanks too... Most of our engines here carry a turbo draft.... cause lots of times we can't get close enough to the water source with out getting stuck or caving in a septic or something. One thing I thought funny... The aftermath of hurricane Katrina.. when all the fires were breaking out... media said fire department of new orleans was having trouble finding hydrants to combat the fires due to the flooding.... Huh! You're standing in all the water you need. Draft that shit!
Can't really blame them 'tho... they probably didn't or don't even carry squirrel tail or hard suction hose.. a lot of municipal fire departments don't anymore.
Drafting is a lost art to a lot of driver operators........ What's "squirrel tail"? Some kind of intake pipe/screen? It seems kind of sad that it's a lost art to pull water out of a pond to squirt on a fire. |
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We're in the big city basically...the only engine that has hard suction lines is our parade engine, an old General from the 50's .I'm a FF (soon to be Driver/Operator (we call'em HEO)) in Milwaukee. We carry hard suction lines on all of our engines even though we've got an extremely solid hydrant system. |
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Another tool in the tool box... If you can get close enough to the water source. Used on and for dry hydrants & dump tanks too... Most of our engines here carry a turbo draft.... cause lots of times we can't get close enough to the water source with out getting stuck or caving in a septic or something. One thing I thought funny... The aftermath of hurricane Katrina.. when all the fires were breaking out... media said fire department of new orleans was having trouble finding hydrants to combat the fires due to the flooding.... Huh! You're standing in all the water you need. Draft that shit!
Can't really blame them 'tho... they probably didn't or don't even carry squirrel tail or hard suction hose.. a lot of municipal fire departments don't anymore.
Drafting is a lost art to a lot of driver operators........ The other concern with drafting the flood water is sucking up debris that would destroy the pump. Thats why you put a strainer on the end of the hose that goes into the water. It's all part of the ensemble 
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We're in the big city basically...the only engine that has hard suction lines is our parade engine, an old General from the 50's .I'm a FF (soon to be Driver/Operator (we call'em HEO)) in Milwaukee. We carry hard suction lines on all of our engines even though we've got an extremely solid hydrant system. We use ours a lot on mutual aide to other districts that have bad hydrant systems. They're good for the interstate too, run a 3k gallon tanker out there for big truck fires, drop 2 2100 gallon drop tanks and shuttle like hell. We had a gasoline tanker roll over not long ago, luckily there was a plug at the top of the ramp. I think we should have let it burn.
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What is this "hydrant" thing you speak of.............?
Ever use a floating pump in a stock tank to fill up the tanker? Then to a "portable swimming pool" to feed the engine? Or, "Political watering"............. 
Meaning - nothing we can do........but we look good all bunkered out! |
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Another tool in the tool box... If you can get close enough to the water source. Used on and for dry hydrants & dump tanks too... Most of our engines here carry a turbo draft.... cause lots of times we can't get close enough to the water source with out getting stuck or caving in a septic or something. One thing I thought funny... The aftermath of hurricane Katrina.. when all the fires were breaking out... media said fire department of new orleans was having trouble finding hydrants to combat the fires due to the flooding.... Huh! You're standing in all the water you need. Draft that shit!
Can't really blame them 'tho... they probably didn't or don't even carry squirrel tail or hard suction hose.. a lot of municipal fire departments don't anymore.
Drafting is a lost art to a lot of driver operators........ What's "squirrel tail"? Some kind of intake pipe/screen? It seems kind of sad that it's a lost art to pull water out of a pond to squirt on a fire. A squirrel tale suction is pre-connected and usually wrapped around the front of the engine. Like a squirrel wraps it's tail around itself when sleeping. Don't really see them much anymore. 
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Another tool in the tool box... If you can get close enough to the water source. Used on and for dry hydrants & dump tanks too... Most of our engines here carry a turbo draft.... cause lots of times we can't get close enough to the water source with out getting stuck or caving in a septic or something. One thing I thought funny... The aftermath of hurricane Katrina.. when all the fires were breaking out... media said fire department of new orleans was having trouble finding hydrants to combat the fires due to the flooding.... Huh! You're standing in all the water you need. Draft that shit!
Can't really blame them 'tho... they probably didn't or don't even carry squirrel tail or hard suction hose.. a lot of municipal fire departments don't anymore.
Drafting is a lost art to a lot of driver operators........ What's "squirrel tail"? Some kind of intake pipe/screen? It seems kind of sad that it's a lost art to pull water out of a pond to squirt on a fire. It's usually what we refer to as the more flexible suction hose... Sometimes already preconnected to the engine or tender/tanker. 
The more solid looking hose is what we refer to as hard suction... It's a more ridged and a PIA to handle and connect to a piston intake. 
Keep in mind... terminology might differ depending on the area of the country... tender, tanker, rescue, ambulance....
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Another tool in the tool box... If you can get close enough to the water source. Used on and for dry hydrants & dump tanks too... Most of our engines here carry a turbo draft.... cause lots of times we can't get close enough to the water source with out getting stuck or caving in a septic or something. One thing I thought funny... The aftermath of hurricane Katrina.. when all the fires were breaking out... media said fire department of new orleans was having trouble finding hydrants to combat the fires due to the flooding.... Huh! You're standing in all the water you need. Draft that shit!
Can't really blame them 'tho... they probably didn't or don't even carry squirrel tail or hard suction hose.. a lot of municipal fire departments don't anymore.
Drafting is a lost art to a lot of driver operators........ What's "squirrel tail"? Some kind of intake pipe/screen? It seems kind of sad that it's a lost art to pull water out of a pond to squirt on a fire. It's usually what we refer to as the more flexible suction hose... Sometimes already preconnected to the engine or tender/tanker. http://www.newtonsfire.com/uploads/product-images/FQP-MF.jpg The more solid looking hose is what we refer to as hard suction... It's a more ridged and a PIA to handle and connect to a piston intake. http://www.newtonsfire.com/uploads/product-images/FQP-TF.jpg Keep in mind... terminology might differ depending on the area of the country... tender, tanker, rescue, ambulance.... That shit irritates me. I'm a driver. Or an engineer. Or a chauffer. Or an operator. Or a D/O. I used to be a fireman. Or a hoseman. Or a pipeman. Or holyfuckingshiti'msickofdifferentfuckinnames!
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What is this "hydrant" thing you speak of.............?
Ever use a floating pump in a stock tank to fill up the tanker? Then to a "portable swimming pool" to feed the engine? Or, "Political watering".............
Meaning - nothing we can do........but we look good all bunkered out! Used one to supply brush trucks several times. Ever used the turbo draft? 
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Another tool in the tool box... If you can get close enough to the water source. Used on and for dry hydrants & dump tanks too... Most of our engines here carry a turbo draft.... cause lots of times we can't get close enough to the water source with out getting stuck or caving in a septic or something. One thing I thought funny... The aftermath of hurricane Katrina.. when all the fires were breaking out... media said fire department of new orleans was having trouble finding hydrants to combat the fires due to the flooding.... Huh! You're standing in all the water you need. Draft that shit!
Can't really blame them 'tho... they probably didn't or don't even carry squirrel tail or hard suction hose.. a lot of municipal fire departments don't anymore.
Drafting is a lost art to a lot of driver operators........ What's "squirrel tail"? Some kind of intake pipe/screen? It seems kind of sad that it's a lost art to pull water out of a pond to squirt on a fire. A squirrel tale suction is pre-connected and usually wrapped around the front of the engine. Like a squirrel wraps it's tail around itself when sleeping. Don't really see them much anymore. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7011/6679423431_73784f5cc7_b.jpg Thanks. The term makes sense to me now especially with the pic. |
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Another tool in the tool box... If you can get close enough to the water source. Used on and for dry hydrants & dump tanks too... Most of our engines here carry a turbo draft.... cause lots of times we can't get close enough to the water source with out getting stuck or caving in a septic or something. One thing I thought funny... The aftermath of hurricane Katrina.. when all the fires were breaking out... media said fire department of new orleans was having trouble finding hydrants to combat the fires due to the flooding.... Huh! You're standing in all the water you need. Draft that shit!
Can't really blame them 'tho... they probably didn't or don't even carry squirrel tail or hard suction hose.. a lot of municipal fire departments don't anymore.
Drafting is a lost art to a lot of driver operators........ What's "squirrel tail"? Some kind of intake pipe/screen? It seems kind of sad that it's a lost art to pull water out of a pond to squirt on a fire. It's usually what we refer to as the more flexible suction hose... Sometimes already preconnected to the engine or tender/tanker. http://www.newtonsfire.com/uploads/product-images/FQP-MF.jpg The more solid looking hose is what we refer to as hard suction... It's a more ridged and a PIA to handle and connect to a piston intake. http://www.newtonsfire.com/uploads/product-images/FQP-TF.jpg Keep in mind... terminology might differ depending on the area of the country... tender, tanker, rescue, ambulance.... That shit irritates me. I'm a driver. Or an engineer. Or a chauffer. Or an operator. Or a D/O. I used to be a fireman. Or a hoseman. Or a pipeman. Or holyfuckingshiti'msickofdifferentfuckinnames!
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Wildland interface is where I work, outpost station with 5 & 10s, lots of big homes, no hydrants. I LOVE my turbo-draft!  I don't think there is a urban/wildland interface station in the whole state of florida without one... 
You can move some water with those things.......
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDn6f0RzFyI&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP1s_1UhHsU&feature=plcp these are some videos from when we got our new ETA's in my volunteer department sorry no embedding I am on the secret site |
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We had a gasoline tanker roll over not long ago, luckily there was a plug at the top of the ramp. I think we should have let it burn. When and where was this? Link to article? I should know better than to give you the info to arock me, but maybe one day you'll stop trolling me. http://arkansasmatters.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=374436 |