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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:16:20 PM EDT
https://www.newsmax.com/us/ken-burns-confederate-statues-monuments/2020/06/24/id/973917/
Documentary filmmaker Ken Burns said Confederate monuments should be removed and military bases named after Confederate generals should be renamed. During a Tuesday appearance on CNN's "Cuomo Prime Time," Burns told host Chris Cuomo that the Confederate statutes are “not monuments to history and heritage.” “I think we’re in the middle of an enormous reckoning right now in which the anxieties and the pains and the torments of injustice are bubbling up to the surface,” Burns said. “It’s very important for people like me, of my complexion, to be as quiet as possible and to listen. What I know from my reading of history is that the confederate monuments have to go.” He said Confederate statutes were erected during periods of history where there was opposition to civil rights and equality. “They’re an attempt to rewrite history and to essentially celebrate a false narrative about what happened during the Civil War and to send the wink-winks, the dog whistles, as we’re fond of saying today, across the generations of what the Civil War was about,” Burns said of the Confederate monuments. Cuomo asked Burns if some protesters calling for the statues of the country’s Founding Fathers to be removed are going too far. “Of course, there’s a danger in going too far,” Burns said. “It’s the passions of the moment.” He added that more than a quarter of U.S. presidents had slaves. “This is a huge thing that we cannot just dismiss,” he said. “But I would say that the Confederate monument, for me, is an easy decision. We have to get rid of them. They’re not about heritage. This is a specious argument. This is about the reimposition of white supremacy in the South at various periods. The names of the bases and forts should be changed. We’ve taken down the statues. It’s a good thing to do. And we now need to continue this reckoning by looking as carefully as we can, monuments are hugely important. They’re acts of fact but also acts of mythology. They are acts of symbols.” ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Of all people Ken Burns 
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:21:37 PM EDT
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Apparently Ulysses S. Grant has to go too
 Protesters Topple Statues Of Controversial Figures In Golden Gate Park |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:23:44 PM EDT
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PBS has got to go
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:24:42 PM EDT
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Someday I’ll do a documentary of the coming civil war and I’ll remember Ken’s dumbass opinion and feature it.
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:25:02 PM EDT
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He must think "historian" is analagous to "fireman" in 451.
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:25:27 PM EDT
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FKB
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:26:35 PM EDT
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I never have been happier than when I laughed at the fucks from NPR that wanted an interview at the Virginia protest against Governor blackface.
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:27:03 PM EDT
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His next work will be an ass kissing, systemic racism dumbumentary.
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:27:59 PM EDT
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I mean he made a beloved documentary series about the civil war from a historians perspective and now he wants to destroy symbols of the past?
I just don't get it. Such hypocrasy. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:28:59 PM EDT
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When does the book burning start?
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:29:01 PM EDT
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Well that’s just like, your opinion man.
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:29:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I mean he made a beloved documentary series about the civil war from a historians perspective and now he wants to destroy symbols of the past? I just don't get it. Such hypocrasy. 
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:29:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When does the book burning start? Already has. It's easier now with all the zeroes and ones. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:31:19 PM EDT
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Ahh fuck it tear everything down let this motherfucker burn already.
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:31:28 PM EDT
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Documentary filmmaker Ken Burns Who??? |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:33:58 PM EDT
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It's not about the Civil War, it's about destroying America in it's entirety and creating some socialist utopia in it's place. Tossing them Confederate monuments like you're tossing a steak to a hungry wolf may satisfy it for the moment, but it will be back tomorrow looking for more. And what's worse, it now sees you as weak, which means you're now a food source too.
Fucking morons. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:34:17 PM EDT
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I wonder how much China's payment to him was?
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:34:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not about the Civil War, it's about destroying America in it's entirety and creating some socialist utopia in it's place. Tossing them Confederate monuments like you're tossing a steak to a hungry wolf may satisfy it for the moment, but it will be back tomorrow looking for more. And what's worse, it now sees you as weak, which means you're now a food source too. Fucking morons. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:38:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When does the book burning start? Soon..... |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:38:26 PM EDT
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Not sure why anyone would be surprised by this.
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:43:04 PM EDT
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I tried watching one of his documentaries and turned it off after 20 minutes after losing interest. I believe he's a known liberal and I don't care what he or his kind think.
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:44:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I mean he made a beloved documentary series about the civil war from a historians perspective and now he wants to destroy symbols of the past? I just don't get it. Such hypocrasy. Woke or no work. Probably anybody associated with MSM has to virtue signal or find themselves blacklisted (racist term?) |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:45:46 PM EDT
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He is slowwwwly drawing a picture where this is going....
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:46:20 PM EDT
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Somewhere Shelby Foote silently weeps.
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:46:35 PM EDT
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I was fine with talking about removing certain monuments 4 years ago.
After the riots, I won't be giving one millimeter. In fact, I think we need new confederate monuments. 300 feet tall and gold-plated. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:47:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:48:44 PM EDT
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The guy is well known leftist. I'm not surprised
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:49:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sure why anyone would be surprised by this. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:50:14 PM EDT
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If history is any guide, Everywhere Statues Are Torn Down By The Mob, History Promises People Are Next
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:50:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He must think "historian" is analagous to "fireman" in 451. 
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:56:11 PM EDT
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Disappointing.......
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:57:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryClinton #metoo so he’s out of the Democrat party |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:58:43 PM EDT
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Quoted: . “It’s very important for people like me, of my complexion, to be as quiet as possible and to listen. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey asshole, I am not “like you”. I realize you are a Democratic, a liberal, a progressive, a socialist, a communist~ pick one or all. I can tell because of your assumption that my skin color, or any other trivial accident of genetics, tells you anything about my character or behavior. Nice try at the old Divide Us Into Groups trick. And no, I do not need to be quiet or listen to you or anyone else. Edit for clarity: The above quote is culled from Ken Burns comments, and my post is aimed at Ken Burns~ not the OP. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 4:01:47 PM EDT
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Question for the group (and I sincerely mean it as a question).... where is the line drawn in what statues/physical erections stay from a losing cause? On one end of the spectrum, you will not see any Nazi flags/statues in Germany (correct me if I’m wrong). You will find some monuments in relation to other causes (Native American monuments are not uncommon).
We can argue all day about what the civil war was fought over, and I have seen many valid arguments backing up multiple claims. However, while I find it interesting that statues/monuments can be found about the CSA, it’s not mind blowing to remove monuments of an hostile force that fought against the US. It’s a touchy subject and I see both sides of the argument. If “they” were removing battlefield monuments (both sides represented) or were removing the war from text books, that would be a different story. A statue of someone who fought against the USA, yeah I somewhat get it. I grew up in an east Texas town that had a middle school that was built at different times. The gym was built in the 1930s (I think), and had a large stone in the brick that said “built in 19xx for the education of white children”. Some of the black students did not like seeing that, and many of the towns people didn’t like it, and I get that. I also get that history should NOT be forgotten or erased, and see the logic in preserving it. There was talk of covering up the stone/block, and to this day I don’t know what happened to it, or if anything should happen to it. I despise the people who publicly state things against my creed or color (while Christian), but acknowledge their right to say it. I can only imagine my disdain for a physical and more permanent manifestation of those words on a building I had to go to everyday, even if it were subtle. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 4:04:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Somewhere Shelby Foote silently weeps. I was thinking of him |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 4:05:39 PM EDT
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LOL be quiet as possible.
 
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Posted: 6/24/2020 4:07:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey asshole, I am not “like you”. I realize you are a Democratic, a liberal, a progressive, a socialist, a communist~ pick one or all. I can tell because of your assumption that my skin color, or any other trivial accident of genetics, tells you anything about my character or behavior. Nice try at the old Divide Us Into Groups trick. And no, I do not need to be quiet or listen to you or anyone else. dude where did you get that alleged quote. I could not say anything like that even if I tried.  I see what you do. You attack me for a false quote. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 4:08:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The guy is well known leftist. I'm not surprised This. I never understood why folk here liked him so much |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 4:08:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryIt's amazing. President McKinley, himself a Union enlisted soldier at Antietam, held no ill will against the men he faced on the battlefield and spoke to "..the valor, heroism and sacrifices of the Confederate and Union armies. The valor of the one or the other, the valor of both, is the common heritage of us all. The achievements of that war, every one of them, are just as much the inheritance of those who failed as those who prevailed." The man who saw his brothers in arms killed by the thousands was able to reconcile with them and had at least one former Confederate general with a flag in the Spanish-American war, yet we today should tear them down for their crimes. 
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Posted: 6/24/2020 4:09:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I mean he made a beloved documentary series about the civil war from a historians perspective and now he wants to destroy symbols of the past? I just don't get it. Such hypocrasy. His documentary totally romanticized the confederacy and how "honorable" they were. Fuck him. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 4:10:56 PM EDT
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Yet it was very popular at the time.
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Posted: 6/24/2020 4:11:17 PM EDT
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Our scars have the power to remind us that the past was real.
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Posted: 6/24/2020 4:12:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Woke or no work. Probably anybody associated with MSM has to virtue signal or find themselves blacklisted (racist term?) They're Lists of Color now. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 4:12:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: His documentary totally romanticized the confederacy and how "honorable" they were. Fuck him. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I mean he made a beloved documentary series about the civil war from a historians perspective and now he wants to destroy symbols of the past? I just don't get it. Such hypocrasy. His documentary totally romanticized the confederacy and how "honorable" they were. Fuck him. Actually Gone With The Wind did that long before Ken Burns did. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 4:14:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's amazing. President McKinley, himself a Union enlisted soldier at Antietam, held no ill will against the men he faced on the battlefield and spoke to "..the valor, heroism and sacrifices of the Confederate and Union armies. The valor of the one or the other, the valor of both, is the common heritage of us all. The achievements of that war, every one of them, are just as much the inheritance of those who failed as those who prevailed." The man who saw his brothers in arms killed by the thousands was able to reconcile with them and had at least one former Confederate general with a flag in the Spanish-American war, yet we today should tear them down for their crimes. America’s isis has decided anything not meeting the high standards of the DSA has to go .....capitalism is no different than racism like “cops and Klan go hand in hand”  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 4:16:05 PM EDT
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  Most of these statues are to commemorate the soldiers of the civil war, and most were erected around the turn of the century as the civil war soldiers started dying off. You will find union statues dedicated to soldiers as well as generals all over the north and they were erected around the same time. 
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Posted: 6/24/2020 4:16:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/24/2020 4:16:33 PM EDT
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Ken Burns, go fly a kite. No, if the tear down the Confederate statues then the rest will likely also be torn down. So no.
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Posted: 6/24/2020 4:16:57 PM EDT
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Hes always been an apologetic leftist...no surprise
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Posted: 6/24/2020 4:18:19 PM EDT
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Like Josh Wheadon. He made that firefly series by accident.
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Posted: 6/24/2020 4:18:45 PM EDT
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and once they're gone he'll say
Union monuments have to go Vietnam monuments Korean monuments WW2 WW1 Revolution and all founding father references Then all things pertaining to America have to go Christians have to go along with the bible,churches,graveyards... Until nothing American or Christian is left Then he'll go after the Jews And finally the rest of humanity Somewhere along the way Christ comes back and settles it once and for all...he and his kind are wiped from the memory of God Himself by God Himself. |
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