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Posted: 4/3/2001 6:30:52 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/3/2001 6:34:44 AM EDT
Check out Corbon
Link Posted: 4/3/2001 6:35:24 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/3/2001 6:41:29 AM EDT
I was just about to ask this same thing, see what everyone else has.. I have a stainless 92FS w/ lasermax guide rod and I carry Federal Hydra-shok +P+ in it.. 15 rnd in the gun and carry another 10rnd.  (If I need more than that.. 9mm just isn't going to cut it)

Link Posted: 4/3/2001 7:19:59 AM EDT
I use Speer Gold Dot 124gr +P JHP.  
Link Posted: 4/3/2001 7:24:21 AM EDT
Never tried them, but they seem pretty cool...

Federal Expanding Point FMJ


Link Posted: 4/3/2001 7:34:00 AM EDT
Corbon 115gr. & 125gr. +P loads are terrific but my favorite is Win. Ranger 127gr. +P+ SXT (really are the original Black Talons).  The 127gr. Ranger load is L.E. offering and is seldom seen on the open market.
Link Posted: 4/3/2001 8:05:22 AM EDT
Remington Golden Sabres
Link Posted: 4/3/2001 8:05:24 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Kevin@AR15com_1&2:
Corbon 115gr. & 125gr. +P loads are terrific but my favorite is Win. Ranger 127gr. +P+ SXT (really are the original Black Talons).  The 127gr. Ranger load is L.E. offering and is seldom seen on the open market.
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I am selling a box of the TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO GET Ranger +P+'s right now on Gunbroker.
Link Posted: 4/3/2001 8:10:03 AM EDT
Only Winchester Ranger SXT 127gr +p+ will do. It's THE best 9mm round currently IMHO. It comes with Mr. Black Talon. Look at the specs on Win website under LE.  The Secret Service uses it.
Link Posted: 4/3/2001 8:44:04 AM EDT
Hera are the latest one shot stop stats. from Evan Marshal per Gun world mag mar 01.
Federal 115gr JHP+P+      %91 one shot stops.
Win 115gr JHP +P+         %90
Win 127gr BT +P+          %90
Rem 115gr JHP +P+         %90
Fed 124gr Hydra shock +P+ %89
Cor-bon 115gr +P          %88
Speer 124gr Gold dot +P   %88
Remington 124gr Golden saber +P %83
Federal 124gr hyd shock   %83
Winchester 115gr slvrtp   %83
Many more listed but my typing is way slow, notice in the loads availible to civilions the Cor bon is tops but it may not feed properly in your gun, try our several loads and decide for yourself, shoot some in low light the corbon has almost no flash wher the rem 115s have lots.
I carry Cor-bon however my Glocks eat anything, My Kimber 45 likes Rem 185gr Golden sabers.
Remember a hand gun is a secondary wheapon.
Link Posted: 4/3/2001 9:13:18 AM EDT
There is NO, repeat NO "cut & dried" answer to the 9mm ammo question, only certain basic guidelines. Fist, what to you intend to do with the load? ( Civilian CC & self defense use, LE duty and or off duty use, what climate(s) are you exposed to, etc.) Another factor to consider is what load does your weapon favor, as far as function & accuracy. For "basic" civilian self defense use, I'd go with one of the better 115 jhp+P+'s. They offer decent terminal ballistics, with rapid expansion & limited penetration. For "basic" LE use, I'd lean towards the WW/Ranger 127 SXT+P+, the Rem. Golden Saber 124 +P+, or Speer's Gold-Dot 124+P+. I'm partial towards the 127 gr. Ranger load, but any of the above should suffice for basic duty / off duty use. Again, certain circumstances warrant different descisions. Am I in an extremely cold climate? If so, I'd lean towards a heavier projectile with deeper penetrative characteristics. A warmer climate could indicate a somewhat lighter bullet, due to less clothing being worn. Will I possibly be required to penetrate auto bodies or barricades, all of these factors should figure into the final descision. Without knowing the intended useage of the load(s), It's difficult to choose the correct one for the job at hand.
Link Posted: 4/3/2001 9:14:39 AM EDT
Speer Gold Dot- Unique or Bullseye powder.
Link Posted: 4/3/2001 11:37:32 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/3/2001 11:48:01 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/3/2001 12:07:18 PM EDT
corbon  +p's

why cuz they work and there the only +P+P hollow point avilible to private citizens easly abtonable
also the prosocuter/whoever whould orbly make it look like you used a elephant gun on his client if you used black talons cuz they are such a un pc round in the eyes of the uninformed so CYA (cover your ass)
Link Posted: 4/3/2001 12:10:02 PM EDT
Cor Bon 115+P [:D] Milldude
Link Posted: 4/3/2001 12:42:24 PM EDT
Best def. load.....I like the 230gr. hydroshok
or speer gold dot +p !!!!
Oh wait you said for a 9. um then i would have to say.... Nope still the 230gr.
Link Posted: 4/3/2001 12:55:54 PM EDT
FACTORY LOAD,115 GRAIN COR-BON.HANDLOAD 5.7GR VV 3N37 W/115GR SEIRRA BULLET-HOMEMADE CORBON[pistol]147gr black talon too heavy too much penetration
Link Posted: 4/3/2001 2:42:53 PM EDT
Most importantly, find a load that fires with 100% reliability in your Beretta.  Secondly, don't worry about firing +P rounds in your 92FS.  It will handle them just fine.  If I had to pick a specific load I consider "best" I'd have to vote for either the Winchester Ranger SXT 127gr +P+ or the Speer Gold Dot 115gr +P+.  Either of these rounds will maximize the effectiveness of the 9mm.  

But again, function and reliability are the first and foremost concerns.
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