[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Fact or Bull$#!^?: Remote Viewing (Page 1 of 5)
Posted: 12/13/2007 12:20:42 PM EDT
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Described to me today as "mind technology" where you can spy on someone with nothing but your brain, anywhere in the world. I already think its horseshit, but figured it would be interesting GD fodder. I have to think that out of the thousands we have here, at least one of you "knows how to do it." |
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There's a pretty good movie about remote viewing: Suspect Zero |
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Then that one person has a problem. Those with secrets like to kill off people who they don't want to see the secrets. Plus there is controlling it, imagine it getting stuck on. Plenty of things shouldn't be seen. Plus what about reception? Exactly how to control such a thing. Does no good to turn it on and see some random person a thousand miles away reading the newspaper. |
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Dames Remote viewing guru (was also in the Suspect Zero movie). Apparently the CIA ran a remote viewing program for some time and concluded that remote viewing worked more often than random chance. |
Great movie and it proves the fact that the worst serial killers are truck drivers. 
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There is a spooky element to it. The CIA was trying to track Russian subs with remote viewing and were having some apparent success (satellite and SOSUS tracks were agreeing with the viewers). One time, the viewer discovered a craft hovering over the sub. The picture they drew of it was what appeared to be a UFO. |
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We really don’t understand the nature of consciousness yet, so I’m not going to say it’s impossible for some people to do it under certain circumstances. But if someone could do it repeatedly they would either use it to make a fortune or use it to spy on women in the shower… At least I would. I have seen a few people show incredible “insight” at times that can’t be explained by conventional means. Oddly enough this seems fairly common for people under the influence of hallucinogens. But I’ve also know a whole lot of people who claim to have psychic powers who were obviously full of it. One in particular was probably schizotypal but most of the others just seem to want attention or they feel the need to be special. |
 I'm almost done with the first season on DVD. I'll wait til the next season is out on DVD (or we bother to put a TV in the room that has the tivo type thingie) because I can't stand watching all the commercials that are in a TV show now. |
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in before someone says some hogwash that we only use 10% of our brains. oh and here www.skepdic.com/remotevw.html |
Call me freaky  but Ive actually had some success at it. Have been able to tell someone what was sitting on their coffee table 5000mi away and that their neighbor burned his BBQ the night before by the awful smell.I know I know the BS flags are a wavin.....but your right seems like BS if you havent actually done it or seen it done. |
Right. That's why the CIA had a program going for 24 years.  Remote viewing is possible. It's not 100% reliable since it's hard to distinguish detail and some things you see are kinda... hazy. I believe the CIA shut the program down because of the negative psychological side effects of remote viewing. It's well known that people who experiment with remote viewing have some... issues afterwards. Another reason could be that there's not really any way to verify what's being seen. If you're seeing the inside of a nuke facility in North Korea... how can anyone know if you're actually seeing what you think you're seeing. Remote viewing, by itself, isn't enough proof for intelligence gathering. I experimented with it and had some side effects, myself. |
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Go here $1 million bucks if you demonstrate this under scientific observation. So far, no takers. |
Yeah they spent 24 years to figure out it doesn't work. Uh huh. (cypher, I'm going to kill the goat in your avatar by looking at it) |
There's some things that you can never prove to a skeptic. Remote Viewing is one. You'd have to know some things about remote viewing to understand what I'm saying. Also, this one stipulation in their application is enough to eliminate any legitimate candidate:
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No, this is just to keep an endless stream of goofballs from wasting his time. If you can really do remote viewing, it should be no problem to get some reporter to write a story on it, after you've demonstrated your power. If you can't cough up for a reporter and an academic, why would you suddenly be able to perform for the Amazing Randi? |
Just because a gov't agency dicked around with something doesn't give it merit. Many gov't programs have been attempted that were, to put it kindly, utter silly bullshit. |
I don't see why that's a problem. If someone can demonstrate this ability for the press (meaning 1 junior reporter desperate for a story), with one "academic" in attendance (university prof who is willing to sign a letter), you're good to go. Shit man, we're talking about a million bucks! That's like...300 big ones...after taxes! |
Just because the CIA may have experimented with it doesn't mean it is legitimate. Several police departments have worked with psychics like Sylvia Brown on murder and kidnapping cases. This doesn't mean she isn't full of shit. Both of these examples ultimately yielded the same result: nothing. |
Dusty...Nationwide???...we got tons o truckdriving Arfcommers.. |
True, but apparently there was testimony before congress that the CIA had achieved some limited success. |
You've experimented with remote viewing?? Really?? Aren't you the "all women are whores" guy too? Perhaps your side effect was it made your diminished mental state worse. Please tell me you remote viewed one of your girlfriends getting it on with some other dude, and this was the wellspring of your theory about women. That would dovetail so perfectly. |
Go ahead and say the whole truth, a number of the viewers solicited the service of exorcists afterwards. |
let me guess, the devil did it? |
I like Art Bell as much as the next guy, but +1 If you can do it, prove it. So far, a lot of talking and not much viewing. |
Of course, how else are they going to continue getting the project funded? |
http://www.remoteviewers.com/htms/updated/menus/samplsessions.htm Really? Results of single blind tests What the person was given to look at:  What a Remote Viewer drew: .jpg) |
I didn't say that. |
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Read the book Psychic Warrior. Army Ranger Officer got shot in the head and started having really weird mental issues. He got referred via his shrink to the program. I thought the book was very good and believable. link |
And, most disturbingly, started voting for Democrats. |