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Posted: 10/7/2007 9:45:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/7/2007 9:46:21 AM EST by BillTheButcher]
www.factropolis.com/2006/11/fred-rogers-better-known-as-mister.html



I just learned that mr. Fred Rogers is actually a veteran of the US MERCHANT MARINE, and he had several tattoos on his arms from his days as a sea man with the merchant marine

thats why he always wore long sleeves to cover his tattoos, he didnt think mentioning his military service would be good for the show.

I geuss there are some good people with tattoos after all?
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 10:09:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By Silence:
Snopes dammit.

Snopes.


You said the secret word!!
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 10:18:05 AM EST

Originally Posted By Jrock82:

Originally Posted By sandblaster:
No Kaptain Kangaroo was seen on the Grassy Knoll with a weapon and Mr. Moose pulled security - Mr. Greenjeans drove the getaway car


Kaptain Kangaroo was a badass



off to start Kaptain Kangaroo was a navy seal thread
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 10:18:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/7/2007 10:19:07 AM EST by TGMoore]

Originally Posted By hk940:

Originally Posted By Jrock82:

Originally Posted By sandblaster:
No Kaptain Kangaroo was seen on the Grassy Knoll with a weapon and Mr. Moose pulled security - Mr. Greenjeans drove the getaway car


Kaptain Kangaroo was a badass



off to start Kaptain Kangaroo was a navy seal thread


Capitan Kangaroo served in the Marine Corps in WWII. Not sure of his MOS. This is actually true.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 10:19:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By TGMoore:

Originally Posted By hk940:

Originally Posted By Jrock82:

Originally Posted By sandblaster:
No Kaptain Kangaroo was seen on the Grassy Knoll with a weapon and Mr. Moose pulled security - Mr. Greenjeans drove the getaway car


Kaptain Kangaroo was a badass



off to start Kaptain Kangaroo was a navy seal thread


Capitan Kangaroo served in the Marine Corps in WWII. Not sure of his MOS. This is actually true.


My uncle has a compass he got from being one of the kids in the audience. Pretty neat.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 10:20:30 AM EST
Fred Rogers would do booze runs with Al Capone during prohibition.

I read it on the internet; it must be true.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 10:21:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/7/2007 10:22:13 AM EST by glazer1972]
1626 post, been here over a year, and still a newbie!
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 9:00:42 AM EST
I believe the story about the Merchant Marine
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 9:03:35 AM EST
I thought he was a door gunner on Apollo 11?
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 9:07:54 AM EST

Originally Posted By -Tex-:
I thought he was a door gunner on Apollo 11?


That pinko Mr Greenjeans rode shotgun on Sputnik.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 9:09:36 AM EST
I was always told Mr. Rogers was the one who REALLY killed hitler, you mean to tell me he did all that other stuff too?


Link Posted: 10/8/2007 9:10:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By NoStockBikes:

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
no,

he was a sniper in the marines


89 confirmed kills. Charlie was the first to call him "Mister"


VC had a reward of 87 piasters on his head-dead or alive
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 9:10:19 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 9:11:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By Jrock82:

Originally Posted By TGMoore:

Originally Posted By hk940:

Originally Posted By Jrock82:

Originally Posted By sandblaster:
No Kaptain Kangaroo was seen on the Grassy Knoll with a weapon and Mr. Moose pulled security - Mr. Greenjeans drove the getaway car


Kaptain Kangaroo was a badass



off to start Kaptain Kangaroo was a navy seal thread


Capitan Kangaroo served in the Marine Corps in WWII. Not sure of his MOS. This is actually true.


My uncle has a compass he got from being one of the kids in the audience. Pretty neat.


He kept it the only place he could. His ass.

Link Posted: 10/8/2007 10:12:29 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 10:14:59 AM EST
What exactly does th Merchant Marine have to do with the military, again?
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 10:19:11 AM EST
Mr Rodgers killed my dog!
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 10:19:36 AM EST

Originally Posted By dedfella:

Originally Posted By NoStockBikes:

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
no,

he was a sniper in the marines


89 confirmed kills. Charlie was the first to call him "Mister"


VC had a reward of 87 piasters on his head-dead or alive


The following article appeared in the March 25, 1971 ARTILLERY REVIEW, "an unofficial authorized photo offset newspaper published monthly by the I Field Force Vietnam Artillery Information Office."

By SP4 James V. Durkin
6/32nd Arty IO

PHAN RANG - A handful of American missionaries and approximately 50,000 Montagnards are a lot happier and a little richer today, thanks to the donations of the men of I Field Force Vietnam.

On March 5, at the Evangelical Montagnard Training Center in Phan Rang, Colonel Robert J. Landseadel, Jr. presented Reverend and Mrs. Keith Kaiser with a donation of over 59,900 piasters, or $218.

What cost $218 in 1971 would cost $1093.42 in 2006.

Ok I can't figure out the math.....But If Mister Rodgers was worth 87 paisters he wasn't worth shit.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 10:20:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
What exactly does th Merchant Marine have to do with the military, again?


In time of war, the merchant marine is an auxiliary to the Navy, and can be called upon to deliver troops and supplies for the military.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 10:24:03 AM EST
Fred Rogers is the only person on the planet to have kickes Chuck Norris' ass.


GR
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 10:25:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By Zak-Smith:
imgs.xkcd.com/comics/snopes.png




TRG
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 10:27:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By TGMoore:

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
What exactly does th Merchant Marine have to do with the military, again?


In time of war, the merchant marine is an auxiliary to the Navy, and can be called upon to deliver troops and supplies for the military.


I probably worded that poorly - since when is service in the Merchant Marine considered "military service?"
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 10:27:52 AM EST

Originally Posted By TGMoore:

Originally Posted By dedfella:

Originally Posted By NoStockBikes:

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
no,

he was a sniper in the marines


89 confirmed kills. Charlie was the first to call him "Mister"


VC had a reward of 87 piasters on his head-dead or alive


The following article appeared in the March 25, 1971 ARTILLERY REVIEW, "an unofficial authorized photo offset newspaper published monthly by the I Field Force Vietnam Artillery Information Office."

By SP4 James V. Durkin
6/32nd Arty IO

PHAN RANG - A handful of American missionaries and approximately 50,000 Montagnards are a lot happier and a little richer today, thanks to the donations of the men of I Field Force Vietnam.

On March 5, at the Evangelical Montagnard Training Center in Phan Rang, Colonel Robert J. Landseadel, Jr. presented Reverend and Mrs. Keith Kaiser with a donation of over 59,900 piasters, or $218.

What cost $218 in 1971 would cost $1093.42 in 2006.

Ok I can't figure out the math.....But If Mister Rodgers was worth 87 paisters he wasn't worth shit.



Link Posted: 10/8/2007 10:30:18 AM EST
Get it right. He was a SEAL/Sniper in Vietnam and had 100s of confirmed kills! The records were destroyed in a fire though.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 10:33:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By NoStockBikes:

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
no,

he was a sniper in the marines


89 confirmed kills. Charlie was the first to call him "Mister"


Actually they called him Long D'Ong - roughly translated, "Dick of Death."
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 10:34:56 AM EST
and people ask me why I think Hil is going to be our next President.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 10:36:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By sandblaster:
No Kaptain Kangaroo was seen on the Grassy Knoll with a weapon and Mr. Moose pulled security - Mr. Greenjeans drove the getaway car


I understand Bozo the Clown was hired by the CIA several times to assassinate Fidel Castro. Obviously it failed. You'd think the CIA would send in someone else after the first failure.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 10:47:48 AM EST

Originally Posted By TGMoore:

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
What exactly does th Merchant Marine have to do with the military, again?


In time of war, the merchant marine is an auxiliary to the Navy, and can be called upon to deliver troops and supplies for the military.


Sir, while I haven't been to sea in the Merchant Marine for many years, yes it is true that the .gov can contract with private shipping companies for the transport of goods and troops. However, that in no way implies the seamen that crew such ships have served any military service. There was an instance some years ago that surviving merchant seaman that served in the transport of goods to Europe and Russia during WWII were awarded veterans benefits, but by far that is the exception.

Our Navy maintains a rapid deployed cadre of ships and maritime prepositioned ships when in the time of need, such as during Desert Shield/Desert Storm, such ships are activated to deliver their cargos where ever designated. You might think of the crews that man these ships as an auxilliary Navy, but in fact the crews are with some exceptions civilians. When I got my first engineers license the administration and oversight was performed by the USCG however I have no idea if it is still the same since the USCG is now part of the Homeland Security Department.

FWIW, my service on various merchant ships during the Viet Nam war delivering supplies and munitions there in no way entitles me to claim any form of military service. BTDT, 7zero1 out.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 10:56:15 AM EST
Are you the guy who offered to buy Dusty's Glock?
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 10:58:20 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/8/2007 10:58:49 AM EST by akethan]

Originally Posted By Alien:
Get it right. He was a SEAL/Sniper in Vietnam and had 100s of confirmed kills! The records were destroyed in a fire lost in a tragic boating accident though.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 12:44:21 PM EST

Originally Posted By Tallbob:
and people ask me why I think Hil is going to be our next President.


The bad part is, you are absolutely god-damned right.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 1:34:32 PM EST

Originally Posted By hk940:
<snip>

off to start Kaptain Kangaroo was a navy seal thread


I thought he sold beef jerkies at gun shows.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 1:45:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By 7zero1:

Sir, while I haven't been to sea in the Merchant Marine for many years, yes it is true that the .gov can contract with private shipping companies for the transport of goods and troops. However, that in no way implies the seamen that crew such ships have served any military service. There was an instance some years ago that surviving merchant seaman that served in the transport of goods to Europe and Russia during WWII were awarded veterans benefits, but by far that is the exception.

7zero1 out.

My Grandfather was apart of the Naval Armed Guard on a merchant marine ship in WW2 and, as you said, defended supplies being shipped to Russia and supplying Operation Torch, etc. He fought next to the Merchant Marines and many of them died. Look up the number of ships lost making the Murmansk Run. PQ 17 especially. My grandfather went to Russia in PQ 18.I think their service to the country is really overlooked.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 1:53:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By emcs31089:

Originally Posted By 7zero1:

Sir, while I haven't been to sea in the Merchant Marine for many years, yes it is true that the .gov can contract with private shipping companies for the transport of goods and troops. However, that in no way implies the seamen that crew such ships have served any military service. There was an instance some years ago that surviving merchant seaman that served in the transport of goods to Europe and Russia during WWII were awarded veterans benefits, but by far that is the exception.

7zero1 out.

My Grandfather was apart of the Naval Armed Guard on a merchant marine ship in WW2 and, as you said, defended supplies being shipped to Russia and supplying Operation Torch, etc. He fought next to the Merchant Marines and many of them died. Look up the number of ships lost making the Murmansk Run. PQ 17 especially. My grandfather went to Russia in PQ 18.I think their service to the country is really overlooked.


There are trains that move equipment all around the US, and trucks too - they are all strategic assets, and can all be targets of enemy fire, but that doesn't make them military.

Nobody is downplaying or overlooking anything. I was simply flabbergasted that somebody would call service in the Merchant Marine "military" service.

Link Posted: 10/8/2007 1:54:42 PM EST
You are a retard.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 3:39:50 PM EST
Mr Roger's always freaked me out when I was little. I NEVER wanted to go to his neighborhood.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 3:43:53 PM EST
Mr. Rogers never fired a machinegun.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 7:47:23 PM EST
An interesting fact that is true. Fred Rogers' parents were foster parents to a young black man named George. George went on to be an instructor for the Tuskegee Airmen in WWII. He also taught Fred to fly.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 7:52:10 PM EST

Originally Posted By BillTheButcher:

Originally Posted By TheRegulator:
Mr. Rogers never fired a machinegun.


WWII Liberty ships had deck guns for defense, so it is possible that he may have fired one.


www.military-collections.com/OBrien%20pics/liberty3.jpg


www.inetours.com/images/Tours/48_hrs/Gun_6026.jpg

deck guns on the USS JERMIAH O'BRIAN WWII Liberty ship / Merchant Marine


Which, I suppose, might make sense if Fred Rogers had ever served in the Merchant Marine.

Have you been paying attention?
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 7:54:50 PM EST
Captain Feathersword was in the Australian SAS before a short stint filming in Gay Porn videos.

The latter is where the feathersword came from - it was a movie prop from "Tickle me Timbers" which made the San Francisco Bath House best seller list for three weeks straight in 1997.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 7:56:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By TexasRifleman:
Mr Rodgers killed my dog!


No! It wasn't Mr. Rodgers, it was Mr. Lodgers, your Asian neighbor

He was rooking for good balbeque.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 8:05:54 PM EST
I was told he scored to high on his Military entrance exam for the Marines so they put him in the ARMY Special Forces
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 8:26:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By US_PATRIOT_1776:
I was told he scored to high on his Military entrance exam for the Marines so they put him in the ARMY Special Forces


One of the questions had the following answers:

A.) TWO

B.) TO

C.) TOO

I wonder which one he picked?
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 8:29:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:

Originally Posted By US_PATRIOT_1776:
I was told he scored to high on his Military entrance exam for the Marines so they put him in the ARMY Special Forces


One of the questions had the following answers:

A.) TWO

B.) TO

C.) TOO

I wonder which one he picked?


Link Posted: 10/8/2007 8:52:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:

Originally Posted By US_PATRIOT_1776:
I was told he scored to high on his Military entrance exam for the Marines so they put him in the ARMY Special Forces


One of the questions had the following answers:

A.) TWO

B.) TO

C.) TOO

I wonder which one he picked?


Zing!
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 8:58:53 PM EST

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:

Nobody is downplaying or overlooking anything. I was simply flabbergasted that somebody would call service in the Merchant Marine "military" service.



I'd consider any of the Merchant Marine who served on Liberty ships in WWII with sailors of the USN (like my Grandfather) to have served.

If you were in the Merchant Marine outside of wartime, no.

Link Posted: 10/8/2007 9:04:02 PM EST
There are some who say he was a SEAL.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 9:13:41 PM EST

Originally Posted By Dino:

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:

Nobody is downplaying or overlooking anything. I was simply flabbergasted that somebody would call service in the Merchant Marine "military" service.



I'd consider any of the Merchant Marine who served on Liberty ships in WWII with sailors of the USN (like my Grandfather) to have served.

If you were in the Merchant Marine outside of wartime, no.



I just don't understand the mindset that saying someone did not serve in the military is akin to saying they are somehow less important. They simply are not military - simple as that.

In a way, this reminds me of the LEO - Civilian threads, where cops act as if the term "civilian" is supposed to be insulting. On that note, the "profession" versus "trade" threads. Since when has being in a "trade" become an insult?

A Merchant Marine sailor was not military, any more than a KBR Truck driver in Iraq is today. That doesn't mean their service was not vital, or appreciated, or dangerous - it simply means what it means.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 9:15:05 PM EST

Originally Posted By prk:
There are some who say he was a SEAL.


There are some that also thought the world was flat.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 9:35:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By KimberTLE:

Originally Posted By Jrock82:

Originally Posted By TGMoore:

Originally Posted By hk940:

Originally Posted By Jrock82:

Originally Posted By sandblaster:
No Kaptain Kangaroo was seen on the Grassy Knoll with a weapon and Mr. Moose pulled security - Mr. Greenjeans drove the getaway car


Kaptain Kangaroo was a badass



off to start Kaptain Kangaroo was a navy seal thread


Capitan Kangaroo served in the Marine Corps in WWII. Not sure of his MOS. This is actually true.


My uncle has a compass he got from being one of the kids in the audience. Pretty neat.


He kept it the only place he could. His ass.



That is AWESOME!!!
I love the internet (and obscure references to movies like Pulp Fiction)
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 4:39:24 PM EST
THE DEPT of DEFENSE has granted all WWII era US MERCHANT MARINE seamen with FULL VETERAN STATUS and THEY ARE ALSO ENTITLED TO THE SAME BENEFITS AS PEOPLE WHO SERVED IN THE ARMED FORCES, but sadly less than 50% of them lived to see this day.
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