[ARCHIVED THREAD] - FIL Gun Collection (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 10/7/2014 3:55:19 PM EDT
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Not sure if this is the right place for this, feel free to move. So FIL has a little gun collection that he's had for many years. My MIL is pretty much trying to find out possible age of some of these and mainly what they're worth. She's interested in selling them (I may buy a couple from her myself). I'm not familiar with firearms enough to know their value. Trying to get a rough estimate of what we have before attempting to take them somewhere. A lot of them have a good bit of wear and tear. I also have the serial numbers for all of these unless otherwise specified.
S&W model 422 (.22) 
Hi-Standard Double-Nine (.22) 
Colts Detective Special (.38 special) 
EDIT: RG 40 (.38 special) 
Beretta 92D 
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Springfield Model 187 Series (.22LR)
Double Barrel break action. All that is visible is 'NR Davis & Sons' http://s1052.photobucket.com/user/skidude010/media/17B82740-66EF-4D74-B94C-E33A9F66DE0D_zpsytxboqrq.jpg.html] 
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The Springfield is a browning auto 5 copy about $300 . The raven is $50 ,the Marlin is about $400 maybe a hair more to the right buyer. The muzzle loader is no value . The old .22 is not going to have a serial number due to age . The high standard is $2-300 Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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The muzzleloader is an original.......where it was made will really determine the value (US / Belgium / Britan).....It certianly has some value......maybe 150-200.00.......you could sell them all day long on GB for that
The RG, Raven, and Winchester are less than 100.00 guns.......although the guys in the newspapers down here in FL make a fortune selling them (illegally) "FTF" to snowbirds from NY and MA...... The Hi Standard and Nylon 66 have almost bizarre cult followings......and depending on minutia I'm not really up to speed on, might be worth more than you think.... The 422?......200-250 The Colt? 275.00 (the rust on the end of the bbl/ejector housing makes it nothing but a carry gun/shooter) ETA:Springfield .22 and Dbl Bbl........maybe 50-75.00 each.......like the RG and Raven......Marlin maybe 250.00 if you put it up for sale a week before deer season..... Just my .02........ |
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Love the personalized Winchester 67. I got one from my grandpa when I was a kid, and my wife's dad gave her the family Winchester, so we still have 'em. We sometimes have a little competition with our first rifles when we go to the range.
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OP, if it were me. i would try and keep / buy the springfield 745, winchester model 67, and colt detective special.
the springfield is a copy of the browning a5. ultra reliable semi auto shotgun, it was reliable before reliable and auto shotgun was even a thing. it's true retail value $250 on a super good day if it were in great condition. (gun shop may offer $100 if they are even interested) the winchester model 67, even though only a single shot .22 you will not be able to find a single shot comparable for the value, it's value would be $100-200.. when i buy these i have them relined with a .22 short, 1x20 twist liner with standard velocity .22 short they are almost silent, they are quiter than .22lr with a can. (expect $25 - $75 from gun shop if they are interested) the colt detective special is a 3rd series, the only thing less desirable in value are the newer 90's version, however the 3rd series detective special is one of the best carry revolvers ever made. being a 3rd series in 95% and higher with correct grips i find these for about $400 bucks. this one doesn't appear to be high grade, which again makes it perfect for a carry gun, i would say retail value $250-300 (most gun shops would be interested in this, expect $150 max) i am not an expert by any means, but i buy probably 25-30 firearms a year. these are the just a few types of firearms i look for. remember when you sell to a shop you will be looking at 25% - 50% of retail value. as i said before if it were me these are the firearms i would try and buy. maybe a $400 offer on them would help out you MIL and score you some decent firearms. |
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Love the personalized Winchester 67. I got one from my grandpa when I was a kid, and my wife's dad gave her the family Winchester, so we still have 'em. We sometimes have a little competition with our first rifles when we go to the range. Looks like the trigger guard did't make it, though. A Win 67 was my very first gun, and had been passed down a few generations (very first gun my my son, I, my Dad, and his ever fired, not sure beyond that). |
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The muzzle loading shotgun appears to be a common Belgian made gun from the 1800's. Proof marks on the barrel will tell the story.
The breech loading double barrel looks like a common hardware store gun sold from the late 1800's into the early 1900's. A little research will turn up the maker. Neither one of these guns is worth much, about $200 if everything works and the action on the breech loader is tight. They're both wall hangers. The Raven and RG simply aren't worth much. Sell them on Armslist for $100 each or so. I would keep the Colt, although it appears to be in need of some TLC. Might keep the Marlin 336, only because I don't own one. The S&W 422 and the Beretta 92 would go on down the road to their next owner. The High Standard is a better gun that it will get credit for and it won't bring much at a sale, but I think I would hold out for $200 to $250. They don't eat much. Hold on a second, that side by side muzzleloader has rifle sights and a poured nose piece; show us the muzzle, the butt, the other side of the butt stock, and the ramrod, please. 
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Thanks for all of the input!
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the colt detective special is a 3rd series, the only thing less desirable in value are the newer 90's version, however the 3rd series detective special is one of the best carry revolvers ever made. being a 3rd series in 95% and higher with correct grips i find these for about $400 bucks. this one doesn't appear to be high grade, which again makes it perfect for a carry gun, i would say retail value $250-300 (most gun shops would be interested in this, expect $150 max). What are the original grips? |
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There might be close to $2000-$2400 in guns total from all the pictures......that's retail numbers. No way, not even close. Even retail most of those guns have very little value, aside from the Marlin and Nylon. The Colt isn't especially valuable but the rust really sinks it. |
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The Springfield semi-auto shotgun isn't a 'clone', it is a licensed version of the FN shotgun designed by John Browning. Browning licensed this gun to FN, Remington, Browning Arms, and Savage/Stevens. (Stevens made the 'Springfield' version for a department store, can't remember if it was Montgomery Wards or Sears.
The Remington .22 is a model 77 (box magazine). The 66 is a tube magazine version. |
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Somebody on here posted what they did in a similar situation:
They got the seller to allow them to post all the listings on gunbroker and sold it for them for 10% of the return, which also allows them to bid on it at a fairly discounted price. Since it's your MIL you don't even have to ask for anything other than to cover the shipping. |
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Thanks for all of the input! What are the original grips? Quoted:
Thanks for all of the input! Quoted:
the colt detective special is a 3rd series, the only thing less desirable in value are the newer 90's version, however the 3rd series detective special is one of the best carry revolvers ever made. being a 3rd series in 95% and higher with correct grips i find these for about $400 bucks. this one doesn't appear to be high grade, which again makes it perfect for a carry gun, i would say retail value $250-300 (most gun shops would be interested in this, expect $150 max). What are the original grips? those look like correct grips, most 3rd series det. specials didn't have a colt medilian. what i meant buy that was alot of used revolvers in gun shops have rubber or some other aftermarket grips on them. sorry for any confusion. |
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those look like correct grips, most 3rd series det. specials didn't have a colt medilian. what i meant buy that was alot of used revolvers in gun shops have rubber or some other aftermarket grips on them. sorry for any confusion. Quoted:
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Thanks for all of the input! Quoted:
the colt detective special is a 3rd series, the only thing less desirable in value are the newer 90's version, however the 3rd series detective special is one of the best carry revolvers ever made. being a 3rd series in 95% and higher with correct grips i find these for about $400 bucks. this one doesn't appear to be high grade, which again makes it perfect for a carry gun, i would say retail value $250-300 (most gun shops would be interested in this, expect $150 max). What are the original grips? those look like correct grips, most 3rd series det. specials didn't have a colt medilian. what i meant buy that was alot of used revolvers in gun shops have rubber or some other aftermarket grips on them. sorry for any confusion. Roger. I only ask because he also had rubber grips in the locker. |
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Springfield Model 187 Series (.22LR) <a href="http://s1052.photobucket.com/user/skidude010/media/A83B57E4-61CE-4D3F-88DC-B70B3DBCB005_zpst5r1bjxt.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s452/skidude010/A83B57E4-61CE-4D3F-88DC-B70B3DBCB005_zpst5r1bjxt.jpg</a> Double Barrel break action. All that is visible is 'NR Davis & Sons' http://s1052.photobucket.com/user/skidude010/media/17B82740-66EF-4D74-B94C-E33A9F66DE0D_zpsytxboqrq.jpg.html]http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s452/skidude010/17B82740-66EF-4D74-B94C-E33A9F66DE0D_zpsytxboqrq.jpg http://s1052.photobucket.com/user/skidude010/media/8E81A364-8C04-496B-9211-B3F5A1C6FBC8_zpsfzz9x5bl.jpg.html]http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s452/skidude010/8E81A364-8C04-496B-9211-B3F5A1C6FBC8_zpsfzz9x5bl.jpg A quick check showed the shotgun seem to be in the $150 - $300 range. Would be a nice wall hanger and I'd love to find one like for my own wallhanger that some day. |
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The muzzle loading shotgun appears to be a common Belgian made gun from the 1800's. Proof marks on the barrel will tell the story. The breech loading double barrel looks like a common hardware store gun sold from the late 1800's into the early 1900's. A little research will turn up the maker. Neither one of these guns is worth much, about $200 if everything works and the action on the breech loader is tight. They're both wall hangers. The Raven and RG simply aren't worth much. Sell them on Armslist for $100 each or so. I would keep the Colt, although it appears to be in need of some TLC. Might keep the Marlin 336, only because I don't own one. The S&W 422 and the Beretta 92 would go on down the road to their next owner. The High Standard is a better gun that it will get credit for and it won't bring much at a sale, but I think I would hold out for $200 to $250. They don't eat much. Hold on a second, that side by side muzzleloader has rifle sights and a poured nose piece; show us the muzzle, the butt, the other side of the butt stock, and the ramrod, please. http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s452/skidude010/9DED062E-68BD-4DF9-B281-C0E5D66A2862_zpsfbii902h.jpg Unfortunately the in-laws are a 2 hour drive away but I'll see if we can get those extra pics in the next day or 2. |
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Quoted: A Win 67 was my very first gun, and had been passed down a few generations (very first gun my my son, I, my Dad, and his ever fired, not sure beyond that). Quoted: Quoted: Love the personalized Winchester 67. I got one from my grandpa when I was a kid, and my wife's dad gave her the family Winchester, so we still have 'em. We sometimes have a little competition with our first rifles when we go to the range. Looks like the trigger guard did't make it, though. A Win 67 was my very first gun, and had been passed down a few generations (very first gun my my son, I, my Dad, and his ever fired, not sure beyond that). Winchester Model 67 was my first rifle too I shot thousands of pop and beer cans with it |
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Hold on a second, that side by side muzzleloader has rifle sights and a poured nose piece; show us the muzzle, the butt, the other side of the butt stock, and the ramrod, please. http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s452/skidude010/9DED062E-68BD-4DF9-B281-C0E5D66A2862_zpsfbii902h.jpg An early drilling? Yeah lets see the muzzle... Nevermind it looks like a muzzle loading rifle not side by side... |
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OP, if it were me. i would try and keep / buy the springfield 745, winchester model 67, and colt detective special. the springfield is a copy of the browning a5. ultra reliable semi auto shotgun, it was reliable before reliable and auto shotgun was even a thing. it's true retail value $250 on a super good day if it were in great condition. (gun shop may offer $100 if they are even interested) the winchester model 67, even though only a single shot .22 you will not be able to find a single shot comparable for the value, it's value would be $100-200.. when i buy these i have them relined with a .22 short, 1x20 twist liner with standard velocity .22 short they are almost silent, they are quiter than .22lr with a can. (expect $25 - $75 from gun shop if they are interested) the colt detective special is a 3rd series, the only thing less desirable in value are the newer 90's version, however the 3rd series detective special is one of the best carry revolvers ever made. being a 3rd series in 95% and higher with correct grips i find these for about $400 bucks. this one doesn't appear to be high grade, which again makes it perfect for a carry gun, i would say retail value $250-300 (most gun shops would be interested in this, expect $150 max) i am not an expert by any means, but i buy probably 25-30 firearms a year. these are the just a few types of firearms i look for. remember when you sell to a shop you will be looking at 25% - 50% of retail value. as i said before if it were me these are the firearms i would try and buy. maybe a $400 offer on them would help out you MIL and score you some decent firearms. Super good advice Op.. |
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A lot of older mid-grade to low-grade firearms. However the mid-grade older stuff has a quality of workmanship today's guns do not. Keepers Colt Detective Special - that's a special one that will get more and more rare as time goes on. $350 now, but hold onto it. Marlin Model 30 - a good solid gun, again getting harder and harder to find. $300, but hold onto it. It won't ever be super collectable, but finding a replacement for it will get more and more expensive, and it's a good basic gun to have. Iver Johnson 22. Originally made for West German army training, it is a fun 22. People are paying decent money to turn their existing Ruger 10-22 into M-1 Cabrine Clones, you got the original of that idea. Again a $300 gun Winchester 67. The condition that's in, you'd be lucky to get a crisp $20 from the gunshop. Get someone to bend a bit of metal to use as a trigger guard. Take the barrel-and-bolt off and it should take you not that long to sand the barrel down,then re-blue with something over-the-counter. Someone suggested sleeving the barrel, but honestly a real good cleaning may make a world of difference for accuracy. Springfield Shotgun - that's a licensed copy of a John Moses design, often called the humpback, basically same thing as the Browning Auto-5. Very solid design. $150-200. Keep it. You won't be able to replace it with a better, more reliable option for anywhere near that price. Keep it for a fun gun, a loaner, variety, and family memory. High Standard 22 LR revolver - Low cost gun in it's day, but really hard to find something that is it's equal today without paying through the nose. You'd get $100 selling it, but keep it because everyone needs a good 22 LR revolver. Good for sale Beretta 92 looks Double Action Only, a product of it's era, sell with no hesitation. Nylon 66 - the first 'plastic gun' but otherwise as a 22 semiauto, nothing special. sell. Springfield 187 - semi-auto 22 back in the day when they were twice as expensive and not as reliable as their bolt gun equivalent. Nothing special. you won't get much for it but sell. Smith Wesson 22 semiauto - nothing special, not a stellar reputation for the gun either. You won't get much for it, but sell. Junk for Sale raven RG thing is, you may not get enough to make it worth your while to sell. I'd just keep as conversation pieces, oddball things to bring to the range, good stuff for the days you and friends go to shoot the oddball stuff or as things to show novice shooters. Out of my element on the double barrel and muzzle loader
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An early drilling? Yeah lets see the muzzle... Nevermind it looks like a muzzle loading rifle not side by side... Quoted:
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Hold on a second, that side by side muzzleloader has rifle sights and a poured nose piece; show us the muzzle, the butt, the other side of the butt stock, and the ramrod, please. http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s452/skidude010/9DED062E-68BD-4DF9-B281-C0E5D66A2862_zpsfbii902h.jpg An early drilling? Yeah lets see the muzzle... Nevermind it looks like a muzzle loading rifle not side by side... It's not a side by side, I thought the other photo showed the hammer on the opposite side; it's a peep sight on the wrist. Might be a smooth bore, I'll bet not. (It's a hammer on a percussion gun, not a cock, although I'd bet someone will present a pedantic argument.) 
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