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Posted: 10/1/2021 12:42:19 AM EDT
[#1]
I have proton, send extra spicy memes and am conservative straight white male with a love of all things that go boom. Should I go ahead and shoot my dogs and cuff myself to the mailbox?
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Posted: 10/1/2021 12:50:44 AM EDT
[#2]
Hey glow bois. It’s the ones that don’t say shit or communicate that you have to worry about.
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Posted: 10/1/2021 1:01:17 AM EDT
[#3]
tagged
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Posted: 10/1/2021 1:46:09 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Irrelevant when one end is compromised. go on. explain it? |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 2:23:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Proton mail is end to end encrypted no? That doesn't really matter if (1) you're actually using it to do illegal shit by directly emailing threats or (2) 2/3 of your buddies - that you email - are informants. Good chance they are also fishing for receipts and account info for various platforms. Normally if we're talking Gmail, Yahoo, MS, etc, they can rely on those companies to fork over any info they want, any time they want it; they don't have that ease of access for some of the more privacy-oriented services. It's not that they can't get it, legal or not, it's that Google will also do all the work of gathering it up and serve it to them on a platter with all kinds of fancy cross-referencing. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 2:27:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThey may behave differently on a government chartered fishing trip as opposed to the prosecution of one individual. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 2:46:43 AM EDT
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Can't start filling the gulags and work camps when there aren't enough thought criminals at hand. The Stasi is busily working to fish for some crimes.
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Posted: 10/1/2021 3:09:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That doesn't really matter if (1) you're actually using it to do illegal shit by directly emailing threats or (2) 2/3 of your buddies - that you email - are informants. Good chance they are also fishing for receipts and account info for various platforms. Normally if we're talking Gmail, Yahoo, MS, etc, they can rely on those companies to fork over any info they want, any time they want it; they don't have that ease of access for some of the more privacy-oriented services. It's not that they can't get it, legal or not, it's that Google will also do all the work of gathering it up and serve it to them on a platter with all kinds of fancy cross-referencing. It doesn't matter how secure your system is if you send data outside your system. Once your email leaves your "encrypted" protonmail it almost certainly goes to an "unencrypted" server. The connection is encrypted, but the data at rest is not encrypted as you'd consider it. I wouldn't trust intra emails sent in protronmail, just like I don't trust protonmail as a whole. If you really want to be secure, make your own security. Due diligence, determine who you trust and want to speak with, create/use a secure system and limit it to those you truly trust. Nobody has time for that. The people with things to hide are hiding it, they aren't using fucking protonmail. If they are, the originators probably covered their tracks and there's nothing to be found. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 4:19:03 AM EDT
[#9]
I’d like to see what happens
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Posted: 10/1/2021 5:10:58 AM EDT
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Wondering how many of them are mine.
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Posted: 10/1/2021 6:27:53 AM EDT
[#11]
Pathetic.
Hey, if anyone wants to leave a kind message for the feds working a tough beat, just put it in your proton mail subject line. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 6:32:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who gives a shit. Fuck those cocksuckers |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 6:38:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can't start filling the gulags and work camps when there aren't enough thought criminals at hand. The Stasi is busily working to fish for some crimes. It can make up its own. Insurrectionists. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 6:42:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The world is laughing at us.
Why yes... yes they are. Friend told me yesterday that a commie family member, who lives in Canada told him what a laughing stock our POTUS is up there. And he supposedly hates Trudeau. Pathetic, the 180 degree change we went through on Jan 20. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 6:43:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It doesn't matter how secure your system is if you send data outside your system. Once your email leaves your "encrypted" protonmail it almost certainly goes to an "unencrypted" server. The connection is encrypted, but the data at rest is not encrypted as you'd consider it. I wouldn't trust intra emails sent in protronmail, just like I don't trust protonmail as a whole. If you really want to be secure, make your own security. Due diligence, determine who you trust and want to speak with, create/use a secure system and limit it to those you truly trust. Nobody has time for that. The people with things to hide are hiding it, they aren't using fucking protonmail. If they are, the originators probably covered their tracks and there's nothing to be found. Why is Dr. Evil so interested in big underground drills? How did you know about that? I didn't, you just told me. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 6:56:32 AM EDT
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This would be a request on pretty paper by the FBI attache (LEGAT or ALAT) to Swiss law enforcement, who would have to take it to the Swiss court system. I would not be holding your breath or worrying about your darkweb semtex dildo purchases just yet. (“Banging with it is so lifelike!”)
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Posted: 10/1/2021 6:58:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There hasn’t been an effort this big by a government to spy on and incriminate their own citizens since Stalin. This is shameful. The German Democratic Republic (East Germany) applied German efficiency and thoroughness to the task, and may have out-performed Stalin. * * in spying on citizens - but definitely not in killing them |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 7:09:10 AM EDT
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Do they have 200k warrants? If so, the judge should be tried for treason.
We need a lot more regulation on government activities. If a private company violated the amount of laws the gov does, they would get fined trillions, people would be in jail, and the congress would hit both the company itself and individual employees. This framework needs to be turned on the government and government employees. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 7:18:11 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder how long Fixed it for you.  (Those trillion dollar coins come in handy) |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 7:31:21 AM EDT
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Protonmail is denying that they received any such request:
https://twitter.com/ProtonMail/status/1443863845840248833 (I can never get Twitter links to embed.) Who knows what to believe? |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 7:32:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gorka I do believe can be trusted. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @thesilvercord Is there a source other than this guys tweet? Gorka I do believe can be trusted. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 7:33:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do they have 200k warrants? If so, the judge should be tried for treason. We need a lot more regulation on government activities. If a private company violated the amount of laws the gov does, they would get fined trillions, people would be in jail, and the congress would hit both the company itself and individual employees. This framework needs to be turned on the government and government employees. I believe it's a Swiss Judge. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 7:34:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fixed it for you. (Those trillion dollar coins come in handy) I just had the same discussion a few weeks ago ref Signal...... |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 7:37:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Doubt it. I am pretty sure they are based in Switzerland and have told the US gov to shove it before Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Will protonmail oblige them? Doubt it. I am pretty sure they are based in Switzerland and have told the US gov to shove it before From what I understand, they will acknowledge if someone has an account but can't/won't disclose actual email content. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 7:38:26 AM EDT
[#25]
Stasi on a fishing expedition.
Is anyone even remotely surprised??? |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 7:42:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They've bent the knee before. Recently. For a 'enviro-terrorist' in France I believe. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Doubt it. I am pretty sure they are based in Switzerland and have told the US gov to shove it before They've bent the knee before. Recently. For a 'enviro-terrorist' in France I believe. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 9:44:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/1/2021 9:58:53 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What is there to save? 81million verified, bonified votes for biden. There's roughly 400million people here, probably 50 million illegals or more. I'm not sure I believe roughly 40% of the country voted. That seems like a high voter turnout, many places were over 100%, others were nearing 100%. That is bs. I'm not going to fight to save a country for those people. Personally, I think they want us to be divided, so we wont talk to our neighbors or amongst ourselves and find out we agree and can compromise on just about anything. I think they want us to be subject to political ideology dictated by the "higher ups" who have screwed us at every turn for 80 years at least. Many of the people fanning the flames have been in government for almost as long, 40 years+. It's a joke. I think we should stop the divisiveness when we can, to those who are still willing to have a dialog with us, and discuss issues on a personal basis. Some things we wont agree with either way, but if we can at least talk to each other we can at least appreciate that our representatives are fucking us heavily and don't represent us. They are con artists to the highest degree, everything they do is enslavement with extra steps. They don't write legislation, it's all lobbyists group lawyers, they get kick backs and such. The only legislation written by the people for the people was the Constitution. Everything that contradicts that document is a lie. Ignore him. He has already stated he will happily submit and go to the re-education camp. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 10:22:33 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
 They start out strong but then they go on to say the messages are encrypted and beyond their reach. But the claim was for account info, meaning IP addresses, email addresses, payment info, metadata. Maybe it was just a rushed release. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 10:25:20 AM EDT
[#30]
I have a proton account that was created when ARFCOM when johns mustache was against the chair.
I am glad I do not have a dag right now 
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Posted: 10/1/2021 10:34:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who gives a shit. Fuck those cocksuckers this .... it's all so lame all the last year and a half has done is turn thousands and thousands of americans into thousand and thousand of americans that don't give a shit. I am one of those americans |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 10:48:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Will protonmail oblige them? ProtonMail does comply with some requests. Their own stats |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 11:00:18 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm actually less sure after reading that. They start out strong but then they go on to say the messages are encrypted and beyond their reach. But the claim was for account info, meaning IP addresses, email addresses, payment info, metadata. Maybe it was just a rushed release. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
They start out strong but then they go on to say the messages are encrypted and beyond their reach. But the claim was for account info, meaning IP addresses, email addresses, payment info, metadata. Maybe it was just a rushed release. I posted a link earlier to their threat model where they say that to/from email addresses and subject lines are (obviously) unencrypted and available to them. They don't log IP addresses by default but have been made to for a specific account by a Swiss court order |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 11:05:22 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: FBI=American Stasi Hear, hear. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 11:47:03 AM EDT
[#35]
lets reframe the situation in reality.
the FBI has credible evidence that there are 2000 actual terrorist accounts on protonmail are talking about things of interest to national security. all but 20 are faking glowies and 5 of the 20 legitimate threats are US based white males. so the FBI requests protonmail turn over all data related to any white male who has used protonmail from the US in the last 5 years. protonmail will likely turn over the data for half of them and claim a victory for privacy because they only gave them 50% of what they wanted. i hope im wrong, but in reality no company and almost 0 people really care about you or your data. the closest we have to people who give a shit are snowden and assange, and look at how GD views them. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 11:48:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If this is real (the 200k user request), I wonder if has any relationship with the Epik account list leak. So they just want to have the information for altruistic reasons... so they can let epik people know they might have been hacked? |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 11:53:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WTF has happened to this country? People trusted the government... despite the founding documents basically saying you cant. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 11:55:54 AM EDT
[#38]
Just when you thought the FBI couldn't be more like the fucking KGB or Stasi, they go and randomly demand data from 200,000 US Citizen encrypted email account, just because.
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Posted: 10/1/2021 12:31:58 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It doesn't matter how secure your system is if you send data outside your system. Once your email leaves your "encrypted" protonmail it almost certainly goes to an "unencrypted" server. The connection is encrypted, but the data at rest is not encrypted as you'd consider it. I wouldn't trust intra emails sent in protronmail, just like I don't trust protonmail as a whole. If you really want to be secure, make your own security. Due diligence, determine who you trust and want to speak with, create/use a secure system and limit it to those you truly trust. Nobody has time for that. The people with things to hide are hiding it, they aren't using fucking protonmail. If they are, the originators probably covered their tracks and there's nothing to be found. The biggest threat to casual users that they can actually do something about in terms of snooping isn't the feds, it's the big tech free email providers, phone and desktop OS makers, and to some extent ISPs. That's because the feds are lazy and simply outsource to big tech as a first resort. Big tech also works hand in hand with leftist political activist groups - this is why cops posting stuff under fake names on FB get busted. Any half-assed privacy-focused browser, VPN, and not using something like Gmail will cut down on your exposure quite a bit. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 12:33:46 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just when you thought the FBI couldn't be more like the fucking KGB or Stasi, they go and randomly demand data from 200,000 US Citizen encrypted email account, just because. protonmail says it hasn't happened (yet?) |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 12:36:34 PM EDT
[#41]
One more vote for tyflocracy.
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Posted: 10/1/2021 12:38:10 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have proton mail…the irony is THIS site does not accept proton mail for joining…had to use another email…  Yeah, that's the issue. Why the h3ll not. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 12:42:27 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The only encrypted messages are between two protonmail accounts. Same with the Signal text messenger. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 12:42:27 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Protonmail is denying that they received any such request: https://twitter.com/ProtonMail/status/1443863845840248833 (I can never get Twitter links to embed.) Who knows what to believe? Also, if your phone and or computer are reporting info back to a third party .gov has access to none of that matters. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 12:46:19 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Doubt it. I am pretty sure they are based in Switzerland and have told the US gov to shove it before If the Swiss gov ask them (properly) they will oblige. Can they get the Swiss to issue a warrant? |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 12:53:30 PM EDT
[#46]
When I read or hear “FBI” I honestly associate it with KGB at this point.
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Posted: 10/1/2021 1:01:40 PM EDT
[#47]
What to do when the FBI sends child porn to your protonmail account?
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Posted: 10/1/2021 1:09:46 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The only encrypted messages are between two protonmail accounts. Same with the Signal text messenger. protonmail emails are also encrypted on their servers |
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