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Posted: 8/10/2021 12:35:44 PM EDT
[#1]
Unfortunately no one cares...
If what is currently taking place in places like inner city Chicago were taking places in your wealthy areas this would have been addressed long ago. It's the "out of sight out of mind" attitude, not my problem. The reality is there is no infrastructure in these areas, no jobs, and ultimately no hope. It's a vicious cycle that just keeps repeating itself. When you have no jobs, you have nothing to hope for so you turn elsewhere. And before the "pull yourself up by the bootstrings horseshit" unless you were born and raised in these warzones take that and shove it up your ass. This isn't 1940, we live in times where everyone is out for themselves, everyone is out to screw the other person and make as much possible money as they can at what ever cost and at everyone else's expense. With the amount of wealth floating around, not one factory should be empty in this country, there should be no job shortages, but here we are and we have greed to thank for it. |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 12:36:07 PM EDT
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And then what…..the gangs, the reigning democrats are pretty much one in the same, and has been for decades
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Posted: 8/10/2021 12:36:22 PM EDT
[#3]
Gangs are woven into the political power structure of the city.
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Posted: 8/10/2021 12:37:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/10/2021 12:40:06 PM EDT
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Quoted: Why have previous Presidents not instructed the FBI to descend on Chicago and other urban areas with enough assets to investigate, arrest and present cases to AG for prosecution. Are gangs not Organized Crime.......Local PD just does not have the people or support to get it done. I kept waiting for Trump to do it but he never did. |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 12:40:24 PM EDT
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I wish them luck!
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Posted: 8/10/2021 12:43:40 PM EDT
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Quoted: Local PD just does not have the people or support to get it done. I kept waiting for Trump to do it but he never did.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 12:48:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can anyone give me just ONE successful outcome the FBI has accomplished? Kinda unrelated, but not really: Can anyone give me just ONE example of the TSA thwarting a terrorist plot? I’ll wait. Take off your shoes and belt, bend over and spread them cheeks. With a 95% failure rate at detecting weapons and explosives during red team tests it is clearly useless security theater which means… Those TSA policies were/are only actually meant to do 2 things: 1) DOMINATION - Psychological warfare to demoralize the populace into degrading and humiliating themselves and subconsciously accepting that we are owned by the gov — every time we fly we are reminded we are the gov’s bitch. Bend over and comply or you can’t see grandma and you can’t go to Disneyland. Comply, slave. 2) FEAR - Psychological warfare against us to constantly remind us why we are spending so much blood and treasure overseas — it’s not to enrich Wall Street and drive nails into the coffin of our Republic — all the taxes and lives sacrificed are required because of all those |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 12:49:14 PM EDT
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Quoted: Why have previous Presidents not instructed the FBI to descend on Chicago and other urban areas with enough assets to investigate, arrest and present cases to AG for prosecution. Are gangs not Organized Crime.......Local PD just does not have the people or support to get it done. I kept waiting for Trump to do it but he never did. Ever hear of Operation Legend (sp)? |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 12:50:11 PM EDT
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Stakeout squads and Project Exile work at the street level.
Organized crime wants their guys armed and their victims helpless. That's why NYC's 1911 Sullivan law was passed. To keep rival gangsters and others disarmed. It's why Chicago still fights tooth and nail to keep law abiding citizens disarmed. A fully armed and trained population is the criminal/Oligarch's worst nightmare |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 12:50:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you consider the political machine that rules Chicago to be part of Organized Crime? This! |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 12:50:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Local PD just does not have the people or support to get it done. I kept waiting for Trump to do it but he never did. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/ThatsBait-133.gif Thus the reason for two of my three wonderful memes above. 
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Posted: 8/10/2021 12:53:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Excellent question. No downside to that at all... This.. Actually part of the strategy to get people to flip from a pro “small gov” stance into DEMANDING a federal police force. Bad news for sure. |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 12:57:05 PM EDT
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Chicago is the graveyard of empires. ~Herodotus, 417 BC
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Posted: 8/10/2021 1:04:10 PM EDT
[#15]
wait you think the FBI will do something?
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Posted: 8/10/2021 1:16:18 PM EDT
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The best thing you could do for Shitcago is to legalize drugs and prostitution. That's what organized crime feeds on.
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Posted: 8/10/2021 1:19:00 PM EDT
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The FBI can't stop sucking dicks long enough to do anything except be corrupt.
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Posted: 8/10/2021 1:29:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Richmond, VA had great success in the 90's knocking down violent crime during the drug wars of the early 90's. James Comey actually was instrumental in starting the federal program, called Project Exile. As I recall, it involved mandatory sentencing when firearms were involved. Of course, after a few years of that, pressure from "community leaders" ended the practice, due to disparate impact upon people of color. I'm all for building more prisons and mandatory sentencing for violent crimes. I will even pay more taxes. Project Exile was the first thing that I thought of when I saw the thread. A lot of gangbangers drew sentences of 20+ years at 85%. They came out of federal prison much calmer, middle age men. Some may still be serving their time. |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 1:33:00 PM EDT
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the problem is democracy and corrupt government and a nation who's moral compass has a broken needle
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Posted: 8/10/2021 1:34:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: the problem is democracy and corrupt government and a nation who's moral compass has a broken needle  |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 1:34:47 PM EDT
[#21]
OP makes the mistake of thinking that .gov at any level wants to reduce crime.
If crime were to suddenly disappear then most of the government at all levels would be useless and that fact would be obvious to the most casual observer. |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 1:36:20 PM EDT
[#22]
Smoke and Mirrors. They will go after key identified leaders and they will give them big time in prison but new smaller leaders will emerge and more violence will ensue. We have done this already time and time again. If you want to stop the shootings, you have to fund and fully staff the CPD. You also have to give them the leeway to get the mopes off the corners and protect the CPD from lawsuits that will follow. In short you need the gangs to FEAR the POLICE again, as it is now they do not. They have no reason to.
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Posted: 8/10/2021 1:39:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Richmond, VA had great success in the 90's knocking down violent crime during the drug wars of the early 90's. James Comey actually was instrumental in starting the federal program, called Project Exile. As I recall, it involved mandatory sentencing when firearms were involved. Of course, after a few years of that, pressure from "community leaders" ended the practice, due to disparate impact upon people of color. I'm all for building more prisons and mandatory sentencing for violent crimes. I will even pay more taxes. I believe Project Exile also sent prisoners to distant federal prisons. That stopped the convicted gang bangers going to prison and hanging out with members from their gang. A local conviction simply meant hanging out with your homies in prison instead of out of prison. A federal conviction meant you went to a potentially hostile environment without backup. |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 2:10:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ^this. Your fighting the culture itself, not just some organized group like the traditional Mafia. I'd rather live near the Mafia. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And how do you investigate crimes where there are no witnesses that will talk to you, no less testify? If you took the gangs, the guns, and the drugs away wholesale, they'd still be killing each other. Because it's part of the rules of their ghetto culture to do so. ^this. Your fighting the culture itself, not just some organized group like the traditional Mafia. I'd rather live near the Mafia. There's a theory that the rise of gangs in the 1980s was due in part to the breakup of the mafia. The idea is that the mafia kept the gangs in line in order to not draw much attention to the 'business' the mafia was conducting. Prosecute the heads of a few families, and the gangs rose up to fill the void. |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 2:12:56 PM EDT
[#25]
There is no upside for Beetlejuice to allow her constituency to be "fixed". Job security is a thing.
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Posted: 8/10/2021 2:15:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stakeout squads and Project Exile work at the street level. Organized crime wants their guys armed and their victims helpless. That's why NYC's 1911 Sullivan law was passed. To keep rival gangsters and others disarmed. It's why Chicago still fights tooth and nail to keep law abiding citizens disarmed. A fully armed and trained population is the criminal/Oligarch's worst nightmare Big Tim Sullivan who wrote the law was one of the dirtiest Tammany Hall creations ever. It was done to get criminal charges on rivals.  |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 3:12:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Project Exile was the first thing that I thought of when I saw the thread. A lot of gangbangers drew sentences of 20+ years at 85%. They came out of federal prison much calmer, middle age men. Some may still be serving their time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Richmond, VA had great success in the 90's knocking down violent crime during the drug wars of the early 90's. James Comey actually was instrumental in starting the federal program, called Project Exile. As I recall, it involved mandatory sentencing when firearms were involved. Of course, after a few years of that, pressure from "community leaders" ended the practice, due to disparate impact upon people of color. I'm all for building more prisons and mandatory sentencing for violent crimes. I will even pay more taxes. Project Exile was the first thing that I thought of when I saw the thread. A lot of gangbangers drew sentences of 20+ years at 85%. They came out of federal prison much calmer, middle age men. Some may still be serving their time. We’d see guys back on the street, after that 60 month day for day warehousing…the joke back then was brah, welcome home, but the gerrycurl got to go |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 3:16:15 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Do you consider the political machine that rules Chicago to be part of Organized Crime? This! Where else but Chicago, could you get politicians to give millions of tax dollars to notorious street gangs, and poverty pimps like Jesse Jackson be the intermediary. |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 3:18:08 PM EDT
[#29]
The crime problem in Chicago is systemic, there is no amount of FBI is going to fix it. The former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich went to prison for trying to sell BHO's old Senate seat. They are corrupt to the core.
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Posted: 8/10/2021 3:21:00 PM EDT
[#30]
The FBI?
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Posted: 8/10/2021 3:25:14 PM EDT
[#31]
Sounds like it might work. Let the mob clean it up. Probably won't take long either.
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Posted: 8/10/2021 3:28:42 PM EDT
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Not enough jan 6 protests for any democrats to care. Plus its black on black crime so no one cares, it fits their agenda and saves money.
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Posted: 8/10/2021 3:30:39 PM EDT
[#33]
Sending criminals to get crime under control seems counter-intuitive.
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Posted: 8/10/2021 3:56:00 PM EDT
[#34]
Too late, I think the FIB has been disbanded!
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Posted: 8/10/2021 4:31:30 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They already did, and broke up the highly-organized gangs in the 90s-00s. Now it's small, fractured, less organized gangs that are harder to track and trace. and more jockeying for power/turf/trade. Honestly if there were a SINGLE gang controlling chicago it might HELP. |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 4:35:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: and more jockeying for power/turf/trade. Honestly if there were a SINGLE gang controlling chicago it might HELP. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They already did, and broke up the highly-organized gangs in the 90s-00s. Now it's small, fractured, less organized gangs that are harder to track and trace. and more jockeying for power/turf/trade. Honestly if there were a SINGLE gang controlling chicago it might HELP. Some people need a brutal dictator to keep them in line. |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 4:35:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: except for that pesky States Rights thing. Not a Fed MOS for dealing with States matters.  Correct. Feds cannot enforce state laws. |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 4:51:40 PM EDT
[#38]
Lol.
The feds only take slam dunk cases. They've got something like a 99.8% conviction rate. Which on the face of it should be alarming, but it's been insane for years now. |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 4:53:49 PM EDT
[#39]
Probably because the their donor base is profiting from the existing system.
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Posted: 8/10/2021 4:54:49 PM EDT
[#40]
Are they going after the politicians first?
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Posted: 8/10/2021 5:01:49 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can anyone give me just ONE successful outcome the FBI has accomplished? I’ll wait. Sunday the FBI successfully concluded an investigation to end a very serious breach in the security of the United States. The arrest of Robert Hanssen...   |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 10:17:10 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Unfortunately no one cares... If what is currently taking place in places like inner city Chicago were taking places in your wealthy areas this would have been addressed long ago. It's the "out of sight out of mind" attitude, not my problem. The reality is there is no infrastructure in these areas, no jobs, and ultimately no hope. It's a vicious cycle that just keeps repeating itself. When you have no jobs, you have nothing to hope for so you turn elsewhere. And before the "pull yourself up by the bootstrings horseshit" unless you were born and raised in these warzones take that and shove it up your ass. This isn't 1940, we live in times where everyone is out for themselves, everyone is out to screw the other person and make as much possible money as they can at what ever cost and at everyone else's expense. With the amount of wealth floating around, not one factory should be empty in this country, there should be no job shortages, but here we are and we have greed to thank for it. Please list their skills, and comment on their commitment and reliability for us. |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 10:21:08 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Take off your shoes and belt, bend over and spread them cheeks. With a 95% failure rate at detecting weapons and explosives during red team tests it is clearly useless security theater which means Those TSA policies were/are only actually meant to do 2 things: 1) DOMINATION - Psychological warfare to demoralize the populace into degrading and humiliating themselves and subconsciously accepting that we are owned by the gov every time we fly we are reminded we are the gov's bitch. Bend over and comply or you can't see grandma and you can't go to Disneyland. Comply, slave. 2) FEAR - Psychological warfare against us to constantly remind us why we are spending so much blood and treasure overseas it's not to enrich Wall Street and drive nails into the coffin of our Republic all the taxes and lives sacrificed are required because of all those If you say anything or cause a scene, you will at best never get on another airplane again. They don't give a fuck how you get home. |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 10:42:51 PM EDT
[#44]
They will do what they did in Ferguson,MO and charge the PD with Civil Rights violations, put them on probation....
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Posted: 8/10/2021 10:45:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unfortunately no one cares... If what is currently taking place in places like inner city Chicago were taking places in your wealthy areas this would have been addressed long ago. It's the "out of sight out of mind" attitude, not my problem. The reality is there is no infrastructure in these areas, no jobs, and ultimately no hope. It's a vicious cycle that just keeps repeating itself. When you have no jobs, you have nothing to hope for so you turn elsewhere. And before the "pull yourself up by the bootstrings horseshit" unless you were born and raised in these warzones take that and shove it up your ass. This isn't 1940, we live in times where everyone is out for themselves, everyone is out to screw the other person and make as much possible money as they can at what ever cost and at everyone else's expense. With the amount of wealth floating around, not one factory should be empty in this country, there should be no job shortages, but here we are and we have greed to thank for it. Remember last yr where blm/Antifa were burning down Chicago.. . Welp that ended right at the border to the luxury shopping district. All of the sudden there were cops, roadblocks etc Interesting, huh? |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 10:50:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can anyone give me just ONE successful outcome the FBI has accomplished? Kinda unrelated, but not really: Can anyone give me just ONE example of the TSA thwarting a terrorist plot? I’ll wait. TSA. Nope. FBI. Well they have run a long op which has convinced people that they are legitimate and should be trusted and revered as an agency to look up to. And that the rank and file just want to do the right thing (if 9nly they were allowed. Lol) This has been so successful.. I. m sure some of GD works for them and supports them directly or indirectly in their day jobs as well. So there is that. |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 10:52:38 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They already did, and broke up the highly-organized gangs in the 90s-00s. Now it's small, fractured, less organized gangs that are harder to track and trace. This ^^^. |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 11:00:58 PM EDT
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The Mob mostly killed each other, even back in the Capone days. These assholes don’t care who they kill. You can’t approach feral people the same as they approached the Mob.
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Posted: 8/11/2021 12:30:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has there been a plane hijacked or used as a weapon (that originated in the U.S.) since the TSA was formed? The answer is "No", because the brave men, women, and non binary humans of the TSA put their lives on the line every day to keep us safe. That's how I always explain it. How many terrorist plots did I foil today? All of them!
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