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Posted: 12/11/2013 6:45:33 PM EDT
When we start to get cold up here, not super cold about -30C my truck does not want to start, there is no click from the solenoid at all trying to engage.

Battery is good, all contacts are clean, usually if I hold the key in the crank position after a minute or so it will decided to start

is this a gummed up solenoid?

the starter and solenoid are original 1997
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 7:16:21 PM EDT
Solenoid is probably crap.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 7:17:56 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 7:18:02 PM EDT
It's a Ford.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 7:18:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/11/2013 7:19:33 PM EDT by Your1Savior]
It won't start because it's a Ford


ETA:  Beat by 16 seconds
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 7:25:44 PM EDT
Get both- starter and battery. Or just buy a Chevy. Lol
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 7:27:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TacticalPenguin:
When we start to get cold up here, not super cold about -30C my truck does not want to start, there is no click from the solenoid at all trying to engage.

Battery is good, all contacts are clean, usually if I hold the key in the crank position after a minute or so it will decided to start

is this a gummed up solenoid?

the starter and solenoid are original 1997
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Link Posted: 12/11/2013 7:32:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TacticalPenguin:
When we start to get cold up here, not super cold about -30C my truck does not want to start, there is no click from the solenoid at all trying to engage.

Battery is good, all contacts are clean, usually if I hold the key in the crank position after a minute or so it will decided to start

is this a gummed up solenoid?

the starter and solenoid are original 1997



From a guy living in Vegas -------->>  




Hell that's only -22F
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 7:38:50 PM EDT
Solenoid or ignition switch.
Either way it won't break the bank replacing them.

I'd start with the solenoid.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 7:39:54 PM EDT
Not super cold... my ass.  I'm in MT and -22F works out as super cold in my book.  Most of the folks on here would curl up and die if faced with -22F.  
But yeah, get a new battery.  Put one of those battery tender thingys on it to keep it alive.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 7:44:18 PM EDT
22 degrees is cold in my book.

-22?  I don't think so, Governor.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 7:44:35 PM EDT
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It's a Ford.
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Link Posted: 12/11/2013 7:47:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dagger41:
Solenoid or ignition switch.
Either way it won't break the bank replacing them.

I'd start with the solenoid.
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This.  The 'hold the key' thing says that it isn't the battery or battery cables.  Something is warming up a bit while you hold the key.  That would be the solenoid most likely.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 8:02:24 PM EDT
It's something icing somewhere I think. Dealt with this on a certain Ford before. Turn key, nothing happens. Take starter half way out, give up, put starter back on, works like new.

Or, put in gear, rock vehicle back and forth, there ya go. Or throw a heater under it. Still don't know why, but what a pain.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 8:11:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HSDM:
Not super cold... my ass.  I'm in MT and -22F works out as super cold in my book.  Most of the folks on here would curl up and die if faced with -22F.  
But yeah, get a new battery.  Put one of those battery tender thingys on it to keep it alive.
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I'm from the great white northeast and regularly wash my balls with ice water for recreational purposes

I will testify that -22 is fucking cold, at that temperature jack frost goes to work on your fingertips and ears with a pair of pliers

at that temperature weird shit starts happening, like you lock a door with ease and then the lock freezes a minute later and you cannot get back inside

that actually happened to me one time

Link Posted: 12/11/2013 8:13:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By deuce_22:
It's something icing somewhere I think. Dealt with this on a certain Ford before. Turn key, nothing happens. Take starter half way out, give up, put starter back on, works like new.

Or, put in gear, rock vehicle back and forth, there ya go. Or throw a heater under it. Still don't know why, but what a pain.
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or, take a wooden dowel and smack the starter a few times

Link Posted: 12/11/2013 8:15:39 PM EDT
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This.  The 'hold the key' thing says that it isn't the battery or battery cables.  Something is warming up a bit while you hold the key.  That would be the solenoid most likely.
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Originally Posted By Dagger41:
Solenoid or ignition switch.
Either way it won't break the bank replacing them.

I'd start with the solenoid.



This.  The 'hold the key' thing says that it isn't the battery or battery cables.  Something is warming up a bit while you hold the key.  That would be the solenoid most likely.



if he was to try it using a jump from another vehicle with the engine revved up, that would also be a test

if the starter cranks, then he knows he needs a heavy duty battery

Link Posted: 12/11/2013 8:24:13 PM EDT
Start a fire under it like the germans did to their tanks in Russia.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 8:29:50 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TacticalPenguin:
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Nope.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 8:39:54 PM EDT
I wouldn't fucking start either.

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This.  The 'hold the key' thing says that it isn't the battery or battery cables.  Something is warming up a bit while you hold the key.  That would be the solenoid most likely.
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Originally Posted By Dagger41:

Solenoid or ignition switch.

Either way it won't break the bank replacing them.



I'd start with the solenoid.






This.  The 'hold the key' thing says that it isn't the battery or battery cables.  Something is warming up a bit while you hold the key.  That would be the solenoid most likely.
I dont know about that I had a VW jetta that would do almost that exact same thing and it turned out that batt cable was bad. It actually snapped at the battery when I removed the clamp

 


Link Posted: 12/11/2013 8:47:53 PM EDT
Besides the electrics, what weight oil you running?  Shit can the starter / solenoid and install a new high cold crank battery or as they say up nort  BATT TREE.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 8:59:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TacticalPenguin:
When we start to get cold up here, not super cold about -30C my truck does not want to start, there is no click from the solenoid at all trying to engage.

Battery is good, all contacts are clean, usually if I hold the key in the crank position after a minute or so it will decided to start

is this a gummed up solenoid?

the starter and solenoid are original 1997



From a guy living in Vegas -------->>  




Lol coldest it got this year was 20 at night and that was last week. Lol
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