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Posted: 9/3/2015 3:52:46 PM EDT
Bought a nesco dehydrator because of a beef jerky thread here on ARFCOM. Tried different recipes posted. What I found was the nesco "original seasoning" was hard to beat, bought a bunch of it. I add some cayenne, worchestshire sauce, molasses, red pepper and black cracked pepper to add to the flavor profile and heat it up a little.



Eat a half a dozen pieces and feel like shit. Happens everytime. It's addictive but you need to eat just a small amount at any one time.




I'm assuming its the jerky cure that makes you feel blah? Anyone else run into this?
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 3:54:33 PM EDT
I once ate too many Slim Jims and Oreos.  Yakked.  It was gross.  

I haven't eaten a Slim Jim since then... it's been 20 years.
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What are the ingredients of the seasoning?
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Link Posted: 9/3/2015 3:55:39 PM EDT
Oh yeah.  Wound up shitting all over the side of a mountain.

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Link Posted: 9/3/2015 3:55:42 PM EDT
Hell no, my system thanks me when I feed it beef and salt.
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Oh yeah.  Wound up shitting all over the side of a mountain.

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Looked like a volcano afterward?
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 3:56:16 PM EDT
My grandfather always warned us not to eat too much jerky otherwise "you'll be shitting all over like a goose"
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I usually quit when my jaw aches.

Never had a stomach issue no matter how much I eat.
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It's not really a stomach issue, its like a chemical poison issue for me. Makes me feel a malaise of sorts.

 
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 3:57:07 PM EDT
I eat it until my teeth and jaw hurts.




But I still feel fine
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Originally Posted By fish223:


I usually quit when my jaw aches.

Never had a stomach issue no matter how much I eat.
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This.
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Originally Posted By dcs12345:


What are the ingredients of the seasoning?
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I'm not sure, I'm certain it's proprietary, it's Nesco brand. I know for sure nitrates (cure) isn't good for you though, I'm assuming its the culprit.

 
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 3:57:58 PM EDT
There is such a thing as "drunk on meat"

Eat enough ribs in one night, with too little water, you'll wake up in the morning feeling exactly like a hangover.  You might even be in a bathtub of ice.
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 3:58:16 PM EDT
not quite beef jerky, but when i was ~12 i did get myself all stopped up after eating an entire rope of that beef stick in a rope loop stuff, kinda like the slim jims, only in a two foot coil? yeah, ate a whole roll of that, and a can of easy cheese.
didn't 'get moving' again for a few days
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I make my own, but I can't eat enough of it at one time to get sick. It's hard on my old teeth.    I don't use any commercial cure on mine though.
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I do the lean hamburger, mix the ingredients and shoot it from a jerky gun into strips. It's easier for us old folks to eat. ;)

 
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Originally Posted By chmodx:
There is such a thing as "drunk on meat"

Eat enough ribs in one night, with too little water, you'll wake up in the morning feeling exactly like a hangover.  You might even be in a bathtub of ice.
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I've never made it that far.

I have to stop when I get the meat sweats.  
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Link Posted: 9/3/2015 4:00:59 PM EDT
Maybe it's the cure or the meat you are buying



What do you mean exactly that you feel like shit? Stomach? Butt? Lazy? Sleepy?
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 4:01:23 PM EDT
MSG?
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 4:02:02 PM EDT
I make mine out of extra lean ground beef and use the recipe in the link.

I use Kikkoman dark soy sauce instead of what is listed.

http://commonsensehome.com/all-american-marinated-beef-jerky-ground-beef-version/
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 4:03:28 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By JoeMal:


Maybe it's the cure or the meat you are buying



What do you mean exactly that you feel like shit? Stomach? Butt? Lazy? Sleepy?

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It's not my stomach per say its just a blah feeling. Like I'm being cured with the jerky or sometin..

 



Hehehehe
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 4:04:56 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By polecat30:


MSG?
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Maybe that's it. You think the cure has that in it or is a derivative of it?

 
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Originally Posted By Storm_Tracker:



I do the lean hamburger, mix the ingredients and shoot it from a jerky gun into strips. It's easier for us old folks to eat. ;)  
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Originally Posted By Storm_Tracker:



Originally Posted By Waldo:



I make my own, but I can't eat enough of it at one time to get sick. It's hard on my old teeth.    I don't use any commercial cure on mine though.
I do the lean hamburger, mix the ingredients and shoot it from a jerky gun into strips. It's easier for us old folks to eat. ;)  




 
Thats what I do and use the same cure/spice as you, and have none of the sick feeling symptoms that you describe.
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 4:06:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dagger41:
I make mine out of extra lean ground beef and use the recipe in the link.

I use Kikkoman dark soy sauce instead of what is listed.

http://commonsensehome.com/all-american-marinated-beef-jerky-ground-beef-version/
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Find a local Asian grocery store, or order online. Get Maggi brand 'seasoning sauce' (it is soy sauce)

Give it a shot, Maggi has way more flavor than Kikkoman.
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 4:07:53 PM EDT
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Cayenne and worchestershire is pretty much a "cleansing" formula.
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Originally Posted By strat81:
I once ate too many Slim Jims and Oreos.  Yakked.  It was gross.  

I haven't eaten a Slim Jim since then... it's been 20 years.
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Those same ones you saw, are still on the same shelf, awaiting a unsuspecting victim.

Link Posted: 9/3/2015 4:11:40 PM EDT
Never an issue myself, but for about a year, it was my daily breakfast before going out for a Repo.

Saw a "Oberti" style jerky dispenser in a random gas station yesterday, i was instantly brought back to my repossession days.  

Ah.... good times!
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 4:13:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Storm_Tracker:
Maybe that's it. You think the cure has that in it or is a derivative of it?  
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Originally Posted By polecat30:
MSG?
Maybe that's it. You think the cure has that in it or is a derivative of it?  


From amazon review:

33 of 34 people found the following review helpful
packet contents namely msg
By Kate on November 29, 2012
Flavor Name: Variety Pack
Nesco wrote me back very promptly when I asked about packet contents: Thank you Nesco for that prompt information.

"All of our spice packets contain MSG.
We do not have an allergen disclaimer on our packages. If you have allergies to milk, eggs, nuts, gluten, ECT. We suggest you do not use our product. Below is an ingredient listing to help you make a better informed decision:
Original
Dextrose, Sugar, Salt, Spices, Natural Hickory Smoke Flavor, MSG, Hydrolyzed Soy Protein, Dehydrated Onion, Dehydrated Garlic, Less than 2% Caramel Color, Silicon Dioxide, Calcium Silicate.
Cure
Salt, Sodium Nitrate (0.62%) Nitrate is used in curing meats. Follow instructions & keep out of reach of children.

Thank you for your inquiry,
Nesco Customer Service
1-800-288-4545


http://www.amazon.com/Nesco-BJ-18-Jerky-Original-Flavor/dp/B000UCM0P6/ref=sr_1_1?rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1441310939&sr=8-1&keywords=Nesco+Jerky+Spices
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Originally Posted By shaun315:



Originally Posted By Storm_Tracker:


Originally Posted By polecat30:

MSG?
Maybe that's it. You think the cure has that in it or is a derivative of it?  




From amazon review:




33 of 34 people found the following review helpful

packet contents namely msg

By Kate on November 29, 2012

Flavor Name: Variety Pack

Nesco wrote me back very promptly when I asked about packet contents: Thank you Nesco for that prompt information.



"All of our spice packets contain MSG.

We do not have an allergen disclaimer on our packages. If you have allergies to milk, eggs, nuts, gluten, ECT. We suggest you do not use our product. Below is an ingredient listing to help you make a better informed decision:

Original

Dextrose, Sugar, Salt, Spices, Natural Hickory Smoke Flavor, MSG, Hydrolyzed Soy Protein, Dehydrated Onion, Dehydrated Garlic, Less than 2% Caramel Color, Silicon Dioxide, Calcium Silicate.

Cure

Salt, Sodium Nitrate (0.62%) Nitrate is used in curing meats. Follow instructions & keep out of reach of children.



Thank you for your inquiry,

Nesco Customer Service

1-800-288-4545




http://www.amazon.com/Nesco-BJ-18-Jerky-Original-Flavor/dp/B000UCM0P6/ref=sr_1_1?rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1441310939&sr=8-1&keywords=Nesco+Jerky+Spices
Maybe my body doesn't work well with the MSG. Now I have a headache at the back of my head :(

 
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 4:20:49 PM EDT
Ate a couple cans of slim jims in Iraq in 2003.


Haven't had one since.
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Find a local Asian grocery store, or order online. Get Maggi brand 'seasoning sauce' (it is soy sauce)

Give it a shot, Maggi has way more flavor than Kikkoman.
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Originally Posted By Dagger41:
I make mine out of extra lean ground beef and use the recipe in the link.

I use Kikkoman dark soy sauce instead of what is listed.

http://commonsensehome.com/all-american-marinated-beef-jerky-ground-beef-version/



Find a local Asian grocery store, or order online. Get Maggi brand 'seasoning sauce' (it is soy sauce)

Give it a shot, Maggi has way more flavor than Kikkoman.


I will try that, we have an Asian market very close to home.
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 4:23:52 PM EDT
The storebought stuff is WAY too expensive for me to eat myself sick (I could easily clear $75 if I was hungry enough ), and I don't use prepackaged anything when I make it at home.
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 4:39:50 PM EDT
I haven't tried making my own beef jerky, but I'm inclined to perhaps try making venison jerky one of these days. Speaking of beef jerky, OH MY GOD when did the price of beef jerky skyrocket? I haven't bought beef jerky in ages and was on a trip and thought I'd buy a bag to snack on. The bigger bag (big enough you could fir your whole hand in it) was like $12! They had a smaller bag (maybe half the size of the larger bag) and it was like $5! Last time I bought beef jerky the big bag was maybe $3.50!
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Link Posted: 9/3/2015 5:01:01 PM EDT
I have eaten until my teeth hurt and felt loose if that counts.
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 5:03:55 PM EDT
I made about 4 pounds of it (dried product) Sunday and it was gone by yesterday. I feel fine, maby a little gassy .



If you are having gastro problems cut out the pre packaged additives and just use pepper, soy, worstechire, ect. Careful on the soy, a little adds a ton of salt especially if you are marinating overnight.




I'd fucking kill to have a hunting buddy, I'd make jerkey and sausage sticks like nobody's business.




Does everyone here dry at 160+ or do any of you dry at lower temps? I stopped using cure for stuff I eat in a couple days but I know nothing about lower temperature feasibility.
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I made about 4 pounds of it (dried product) Sunday and it was gone by yesterday. I feel fine, maby a little gassy .





If you are having gastro problems cut out the pre packaged additives and just use pepper, soy, worstechire, ect. Careful on the soy, a little adds a ton of salt especially if you are marinating overnight.
I'd fucking kill to have a hunting buddy, I'd make jerkey and sausage sticks like nobody's business.
Does everyone here dry at 160+ or do any of you dry at lower temps? I stopped using cure for stuff I eat in a couple days but I know nothing about lower temperature feasibility.


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I dry at 150 never had any issues


 
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 5:41:53 PM EDT
I need to make some more jerky.  Only issue I can see is if you eat too much you might not be able to drop the kids off at the pool for the rest of the week.
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I'm going with MSG. That shit makes me feel awful.

ETA: Do some research on that shit. It's HORRIBLE for anyone. It causes all sorts of problems, and is built up over time in your body.
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