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Posted: 11/26/2005 10:56:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/17/2005 3:37:46 PM EDT by 1Andy2]
Tried this in the BIY forum but no dice.

Here's what I'm working with:






So what do I need? I already measured the height. Its about 5 1/4 inches tall.

I need something I can remove when I want to replace the buttstock... but I'd also like it to cover up the buffer tube hole.

If anybody could point me to some good options I'd appreciate it. Thanks. And I've already looked through Brownells. My problem is knowing which one I should get...

Its very confusering...
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 11:10:29 AM EDT
First you get some lube and bend ov...........nevermind.
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 11:11:26 AM EDT
Are you thinking a standard AR buttplate (A2 A1) or something fancy?



Link Posted: 11/26/2005 11:12:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:
Are you thinking a standard AR buttplate (A2 A1) or something fancy?

www.dutchmanwoodworks.com/images/works7.jpg




Dont listen to Phil, he is a Michigan and Wings fan.
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 11:14:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ARDOC:

Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:
Are you thinking a standard AR buttplate (A2 A1) or something fancy?

www.dutchmanwoodworks.com/images/works7.jpg




Dont listen to Phil, he is a Michigan and Wings fan.



Don't listen to the catdoc he's never been cool enough to play in goal and he's jealous of those who can and have.

Link Posted: 11/26/2005 11:16:21 AM EDT
Is it an A1 or A2 stock?

Where did you get it from? I bet they can tell you. If it's an A1 pattern get an A1 butplate, if A2 get an A2. Should solve the issue.
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 11:22:53 AM EDT
There are adjustable buttplates



Aluminum AR style buttplates


Ruger style


A Garand Buttplate

(that would be neat on an AR)

Fancy buttplates

You'd need an inlay for the center though.

Recoil pads



Link Posted: 11/26/2005 11:26:41 AM EDT
Why do you have firewood on your AR?


Link Posted: 11/26/2005 11:33:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/26/2005 11:36:44 AM EDT by 1Andy2]

Is it an A1 or A2 stock?

Where did you get it from? I bet they can tell you. If it's an A1 pattern get an A1 butplate, if A2 get an A2. Should solve the issue.



I made it and I used the stock I got with the lower as a pattern. I can't remember if its an A1 or an A2. Whats the difference between a1 and a2? Does this help?



can you see what my problem is?
The buffer tube hole at the top negates the top screw on those recoil pads.

Maybe I'll just make a buttplate out of a thin peice of mesquite. It's really just for looks, anyways.


Why do you have firewood on your AR?


I like the smell of bbq when I'm shooting.

Link Posted: 11/26/2005 11:39:45 AM EDT
You are a talented craftsman, nice!


Balming
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 11:57:26 AM EDT
Admit it, yer just showing off.
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 12:00:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Balming:
You are a talented craftsman, nice!


Balming



+1

Andy, that is a beautiful stock and pistol grip. I'm not one to like wood on AR's, but I'd make an exception in your case. That's wood pattern is really nice.
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 12:03:23 PM EDT
Pretty freaking cool! Now, what are you going to do for the forward grip? When is the group buy going to start?
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 12:08:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tacberry:
Admit it, yer just showing off.



What are you talking about?
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 1:40:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
can you see what my problem is?
The buffer tube hole at the top negates the top screw on those recoil pads.




You made a stock from a piece of wood, you an figure out how to attach a recoil pad to it. Besides you do know that in the end of the buffer tube is a thread hole for a stock screw to screw into right?

Link Posted: 11/26/2005 2:39:36 PM EDT
Wood rocks!!!!



Link Posted: 11/26/2005 3:27:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Surf:
Wood rocks!!!!

img38.imageshack.us/img38/7397/Scan62.jpg




Yes it is.

Link Posted: 11/26/2005 3:34:11 PM EDT
I got wood.
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 3:44:27 PM EDT
OMG...

Nice wood project.. I like it..

Becareful. Now that it has wood, some liberal will think its an AK47..
Just don't let CNN get a hold of these pics.

Again.. Nice job.
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 4:01:47 PM EDT
cut a dowel plug for the buffer tube hole.Place buttplate on as normal.When you need to remove the buttplate,take the screws out,remove buttplate,place screw back into dowel plug and use a hammer or pliers to pull out the dowel plug.

Nice work on the gip and stock!
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 4:08:06 PM EDT
To answer your question: If it was me, I'd use a standard a2 buttplate. Probably have to beltsand the "inside" part flat, or using a thin sheet of micarta make a gasket/spacer so that butplate sits flat on the end of the stock. The lower screw hole can use a woodscrew, and the top screw hole would use the standard screwinto the buffer tube.

I'd be afraid of standard AR type sling swivel that close to the toe of a wood stock, so a swivel stud would probably be mounted about 2-3 inches from the toe.

Nice work. Gonna show us how you made the handguards?
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 4:08:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/26/2005 4:08:44 PM EDT by clement]
Wow...I just clicked on a thread about buttplates, and all I see is a conversation about wood....

Time to leave this sausage party.
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 4:39:30 PM EDT
Wow.

In a sea of juvenile crap, this post is an unexpected pleasure. Please post a 1024 pic for desktops! Any more pics of it being carved? I don't blame you for showing off Andy.
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 4:41:41 PM EDT
So where are the naughty pics?
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 9:25:06 PM EDT

Originally posted by Win_88
OMG...

Nice wood project.. I like it..

Becareful. Now that it has wood, some liberal will think its an AK47..
Just don't let CNN get a hold of these pics.

Again.. Nice job.



thanks.
But I thought wood was PC? Its the black synthetic furniture that makes it EEEEvil.


Originally Posted By Spyda:
Wow.

In a sea of juvenile crap, this post is an unexpected pleasure. Please post a 1024 pic for desktops! Any more pics of it being carved? I don't blame you for showing off Andy.



Ask and ye shall receive:












Lemme see if I can get a real good pic in 1024.



Well, this is kind of a repost of the thread I started a couple months ago when I was making this stuff. I haven't been doing much since... I've tinkered with making more PGs. I finished 2 more, but 1 kinda looks like shit, so I don't think I'll post a pic of it.


As for the naughty pics... these ARE pics of butts(tocks)... how much naughtier do you want it?

Link Posted: 11/26/2005 9:29:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Surf:
Wood rocks!!!!







Those are the biggest snowshoes I have ever seen!!!
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 9:29:59 PM EDT
Man, that looks nice.
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 9:32:03 PM EDT
Very Nice ! You might think of doing custom work on a couple of M1A stocks.
Sweeeeeeeet !!!
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 9:37:37 PM EDT
Oh yeah, that really sweet PG in the picture is now completely FUBAR.

It wasn't quite centered and I wanted it absolutely perfect... so I did some more drilling to get the screw hole juuuust right... and some more drilling... until I had completely fucked it up.

I made another one out of a different peice of wood. Its nice, but not nearly as interesting as that first one.

I dunno. Maybe there's some way I can fix that first one. Maybe I could fill the cavern I excavated out of it with something and redrill the hole.
Link Posted: 12/17/2005 3:35:48 PM EDT
Finished the buttplate if anyone's interested.

Here's some pics until I can get some decent light tomorrow morning.




Plate is a different peice of mesquite.
The spacer is oak.

Oh yeah, here's some advice from hell: don't try to sand endgrain with a handheld sander.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 11:52:26 AM EDT
Hm okie. guess nobody loves me.

Here's better pics:




Link Posted: 12/18/2005 2:52:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2005 2:53:11 PM EDT by prk]
In your second post (layout), the grain orientation looks all wrong. And weak. It turned out nice, though.

How are you going to get rid of the barrel heat? A router for slots?
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 3:16:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By prk:
In your second post (layout), the grain orientation looks all wrong. And weak. It turned out nice, though.

How are you going to get rid of the barrel heat? A router for slots?



Thanks.


Funny you should mention the heat problem... first time I took it out shooting, the handguards started smoking after about 150 rounds rapid-fired. Also got a little uncomfortable to hold... at least it smelled good!

I think my next project will be thicker guards. Actually, I've got one already lathed out. I just need to drill a hole through it, cut it in half, and dremel the fittings.

As far as routing slots for heat dissipation goes, yeah. For the next one. This one is too thin and I'm afraid that if I start driling holes in it it'll be too weak.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 3:21:09 PM EDT
Looks good.

How is the buttstock held on? Blind screw through the spacer into the buffer tube?
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 3:24:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2005 3:29:12 PM EDT by 1Andy2]

Originally Posted By kar98k:
Looks good.

How is the buttstock held on? Blind screw through the spacer into the buffer tube?



I left the spacer out. Instead, I drilled a hole through a wooden dowel and glued it into the buffer tube hole right after the buffer tube.

you can probably see it in one of the pics I posted over the past few months in the original thread.

eta: Do you mean the plastic spacer that came with the gun originally that goes in the buffer tube hole, or are you talking about that oak spacer I put between the plate and the stock?

eta: pics worth a thousand words:
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 3:38:04 PM EDT

Nice work there! How much of a weight difference is it? Is there a finish on it or simpy stain?
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 3:38:25 PM EDT
That is awesome.

Link Posted: 12/18/2005 4:04:25 PM EDT
sweet
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 4:09:15 PM EDT
I meant the hole for the tube looked like it went all the way through with no reduced diameter. The pic explains it.

Any problem with the buffer due to no pressure release hole through the buttplate?
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 4:11:22 PM EDT
I like it. Wood always looks good. One thing though. For me, i would've used hex head screws to fasten the buttplate on. I just dont like the look of phillips or flat head screws. Just my opinion though.

Otherwise it looks... well... elegant. Just like wood should.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 4:15:27 PM EDT
That is cool!
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 4:18:59 PM EDT
Absolutely, positively, sweet. The greatest Jedi masters could learn here from you.

Continue to use the force for good and keep up the woodwork.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 4:24:42 PM EDT
That is wonderful!

What about some furniture for an FAL?
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 4:41:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Hm okie. guess nobody loves me.

Here's better pics:


img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/1andy2/IMAG0513.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/1andy2/IMAG0510.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/1andy2/IMAG0504.jpg




Looks awsome! What did you use to seal up the end of the stock before putting on the butplate?
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 5:49:15 PM EDT
Nice work!!
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 6:27:33 PM EDT
That's extremely cool....I wish somebody would put that (or similar) into production.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 7:09:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Grendel_J:
That's extremely cool....I wish somebody would put that (or similar) into production.



I am actively pursuing getting methods down for doing custom AR furniture work.

However, Ironwood designs makes very nice AR SP1 replica wood furniture. Do a search in the BIY forum.

I used Watco Danish Oil Finish.

Seal up the end? I didn't seal it with anything. Well, except for whatever oil was left on my hands...



What about some furniture for an FAL?


Certainly. I'll need an FAL to use as a model though... got any spare ones lying around? I think Ironwood designs makes those too, actually.

And yeah, Hex head screws will probably look better, come to think of it.


Next I'm going to see about putting a threaded insert in at the back on the underside of the stock to accept a sling mount. I'll be showing off updating again when I do.

Thanks for all the interest guys!
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