[ARCHIVED THREAD] - EXPATRIATION (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 3/24/2013 12:20:02 PM EDT
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so what do you guys think about expatriation?
where are gringo-friendly places? must be MORE cost effective, not less. what are some of the difficulties associated with being an expat? hazards/dangers vs. rewards. medical care, insurance, rights, etc? especially asking folks who have done it, or are currently doing it. thanks in advance.-TM |
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Switzerland would be okay if u could get the indefinite work visa Russia would be okay if you were connected with the right people I think interior Alaska is really the best option. Just not enough population (votes) to make it worthwhile for the libtards to spend a ton of money trying to flip it from a red state to pinko state. Federal laws just aren't very enforceable in remote areas like that. Get in good with the local Sheriff and then relax.
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You want to renounce your citizenship to the clusterfuck? you dont renounce your citizenship, and you are still an American. you just live part of the year in another country. I'm an ex-pat. I still have retained my citizenship. You do so until you go to the US Embassy somewhere and renounce your citizenship. Even if you do so, you still owe taxes for the next 10 years, if you would owe them. I do security for the Army in Saudi Arabia, and save for 2 weeks in October, I've been out of the country for over 8 years. One nice thing about being overseas working for Uncle Sugar is the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion. http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/International-Taxpayers/Foreign-Earned-Income-Exclusion I live in the Philippines when I am not working, although I have lived in Cambodia and Thailand, as well. Slovakia wouldn't be bad, either, as they have rather liberal gun laws for foreigners, and the people tend to like Americans. |
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My wife and I have looked at what we could do if we cashed out now and went galt somewhere in South or Central America. We're both young, which is good, but it also means that we have gotten little use out of our 52 years of combined education.
Things that we looked at were: Cost of property ownership (we wanted to be able to buy something outright to alleviate any potential issue with rising rent, inflation, etc) Cost of living Firearm freedom Banking freedom Currency stability Political stability Potential for income generation/business Weather Ease/Cost of travel to the US Residency To make a long story short, we never found any place that did checked all of our boxes. The places where your dollar really stretches (e.g. Ecuador) lose out on issues like political stability, banking and firearms freedom. Other places that get more of these issues right (e.g. Uruguay) are just too expensive for us right now (we'd realistically be looking to leave with under $500k to include buying a home). Finally, the few countries were it seems like I could own at least some of the firearms I enjoy now (which, like most of you, is a big issue to me) don't get very much else right. There are some Central American countries where you can legally acquire a few firearms, but it is nothing like what you can get here. That leaves you trying to acquire on the black market or smuggle, which is just too dangerous. If you can compromise on some of these things, then there is a place for you (and plenty that have gone before), but there was nowhere that we felt offered more than what we had here (current political CF, class warfare, and impending economic depression all accounted for). Bottom line: We're staying put, buying a piece of property in the country, and generally just holding the course for right now. In fact, I think I've unfortunately also been talked into buying a bigger house here in town. |
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I've heard good things about Thailand. Just watch out for the pickle surprise. 20 years ago maybe. It's full of jihadis now from what I've heard. Look up 'International Man' blog. http://internationalman.com/ |
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To get out of taxes you say?
Expatriation Tax Plus, if the US deems you unfit to renounce your citizenship, you have to pay taxes on foreign earned income as well. |
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no not worried about taxes.
just getting out of a country i dont understand anymore. I will keep ties to USA, but this storm may be too much to ride-out. my Family comes first this may be the only way, while it is available. I see limits on expats soon, and severe penalties for moving out of the country imposed to control exodus. |
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no not worried about taxes. just getting out of a country i dont understand anymore. I will keep ties to USA, but this storm may be too much to ride-out. my Family comes first this may be the only way, while it is available. I see limits on expats soon, and severe penalties for moving out of the country imposed to control exodus. The short and easy way may be Canada. Less oppressive government and their quality of life seems to be on the rise while ours is tanking. |
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no not worried about taxes. just getting out of a country i dont understand anymore. I will keep ties to USA, but this storm may be too much to ride-out. my Family comes first this may be the only way, while it is available. I see limits on expats soon, and severe penalties for moving out of the country imposed to control exodus. They don't really give a fuck if you leave. They will smite you down if you try to take any assets with you, tho. |
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Switzerland would be okay if u could get the indefinite work visa Russia would be okay if you were connected with the right people I think interior Alaska is really the best option. Just not enough population (votes) to make it worthwhile for the libtards to spend a ton of money trying to flip it from a red state to pinko state. Federal laws just aren't very enforceable in remote areas like that. Get in good with the local Sheriff and then relax. I believe Alaska is the only state in the country with no sheriffs. You can't have guns most places OP that is enough to kill the idea for me. |
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I'd love to one day live overseas part-time, or for several years, but not for political reasons.
Frankly ther'es no place that meets all the criteria to be better than here. Optimist or pessimist, you have to agree that we live in the greatest country on earth. |
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I'd love to one day live overseas part-time, or for several years, but not for political reasons. Frankly ther'es no place that meets all the criteria to be better than here. Optimist or pessimist, you have to agree that we live in the greatest country on earth. maybe we did at some point. not anymore. 
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I'd love to one day live overseas part-time, or for several years, but not for political reasons. Frankly ther'es no place that meets all the criteria to be better than here. Optimist or pessimist, you have to agree that we live in the greatest country on earth. maybe we did at some point. not anymore. So which nation holds the title now? |
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I'd love to one day live overseas part-time, or for several years, but not for political reasons. Frankly ther'es no place that meets all the criteria to be better than here. Optimist or pessimist, you have to agree that we live in the greatest country on earth. While I believe this to be mostly true, I would be moving partly because of politics here. I'm thinking a home away from home. I'm 45 recently retired and single with a teenage daughter that lives with me. So nothing holding me back once she gets in college. I need to have a place to clear my head after the shitstorm I've experienced the last 25yrs mostly from this .gov. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I'd love to one day live overseas part-time, or for several years, but not for political reasons. Frankly ther'es no place that meets all the criteria to be better than here. Optimist or pessimist, you have to agree that we live in the greatest country on earth. While I believe this to be mostly true, I would be moving partly because of politics here But moving to where? I've been to Costa Rica, France, Senegal, Japan (2x), Thailand, Indonesia, and all over the US and frankly from an individual liberty POV if you let me stay out of large cities I'll take anytown, USA over anything I've seen outside our borders. |
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I'd love to one day live overseas part-time, or for several years, but not for political reasons. Frankly ther'es no place that meets all the criteria to be better than here. Optimist or pessimist, you have to agree that we live in the greatest country on earth. While I believe this to be mostly true, I would be moving partly because of politics here But moving to where? I've been to Costa Rica, France, Senegal, Japan (2x), Thailand, Indonesia, and all over the US and frankly from an individual liberty POV if you let me stay out of large cities I'll take anytown, USA over anything I've seen outside our borders. Philippines, in a mud hut thatch roof on a remote beach. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I'd love to one day live overseas part-time, or for several years, but not for political reasons. Frankly ther'es no place that meets all the criteria to be better than here. Optimist or pessimist, you have to agree that we live in the greatest country on earth. While I believe this to be mostly true, I would be moving partly because of politics here But moving to where? I've been to Costa Rica, France, Senegal, Japan (2x), Thailand, Indonesia, and all over the US and frankly from an individual liberty POV if you let me stay out of large cities I'll take anytown, USA over anything I've seen outside our borders. I'm of the (uneducated) opinion that if you have the money to swing uprooting and moving overseas, you'd be better off just uprooting and moving off-grid to the ass end of Idaho, Utah, Alaska, etc... |
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I'd love to one day live overseas part-time, or for several years, but not for political reasons. Frankly ther'es no place that meets all the criteria to be better than here. Optimist or pessimist, you have to agree that we live in the greatest country on earth. While I believe this to be mostly true, I would be moving partly because of politics here But moving to where? I've been to Costa Rica, France, Senegal, Japan (2x), Thailand, Indonesia, and all over the US and frankly from an individual liberty POV if you let me stay out of large cities I'll take anytown, USA over anything I've seen outside our borders. I'm of the (uneducated) opinion that if you have the money to swing uprooting and moving overseas, you'd be better off just uprooting and moving off-grid to the ass end of Idaho, Utah, Alaska, etc... yet you are still under the thumb of the communist government, vis a vie taxation, surveillance, indoctrination of your children, and feeding the welfare rats. |
| Got some friends that spend most of the year in Phuket. They are probably the happiest people I know. Somebody above mentioned a nice sailboat and the islands. I did that 20 some years ago and had the best couple years of my life. A properly rigged sailboat is as close to a spaceship that we are able to buy on this earth. You make your own water, power, and propulsion. For the land lubbers, Alaska or some of the other remote western states would work pretty nice. |
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yet you are still under the thumb of the communist government, vis a vie taxation, surveillance, indoctrination of your children, and feeding the welfare rats. At this point anyone who still allows their children to go to the government indoctrination camps has no right to complain. Pull your children out of there and homeschool them or at least send them to a decent private school. You have nobody to blame but yourself if you're still sending kids to the idiocy centers 5 days per week. |