[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Dry fire practice? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 5/6/2013 3:33:54 AM EDT
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I have been dry firing my Glock 19 everyday in a attempt to get better at shooting it past 15 yards. The AR 15 gets dry fired too, but barely because its way easy to shoot. I think my main problem when trying to be accurate past 15 with a handgun is breathing/trigger control, but enough about me. So what gun do you guys dry fire the most, and how often? |
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I find myself doing this as well.  |
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I have news for you, in the Marines we did the same thing. Running around in the forest in North Carolina yelling, "butter, butter, jam" at each other. |
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Quoted: I have news for you, in the Marines we did the same thing. Running around in the forest in North Carolina yelling, "butter, butter, jam" at each other. Well it must help cause Marines are some damn good soldiers the world has ever seen. |
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Quoted: Interesting that could be useful in the future.A guy over on the Snipers Hide made a Diopter that slips over the end of your scope so that you can easily dry fire in doors . He calls it the I O T A it works pretty good. You set your target up 14 feet away and dryfire until your hearts content |
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Holy hell that's the funniest thing I've see. |
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i bought this laser traininer kit and it works VERY well for pistols.... not so much for the ar.
been really happy with it. |
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Quoted: i bought this laser traininer kit and it works VERY well for pistols.... not so much for the ar. been really happy with it. Thanks for the link. |
| I dryfire practice with everything. I practice clearing my house from the bedroom down by 'targeting' random objects (such as every picture, or every lightswitch being a bad guy). Airsoft is great for this. I have learned a lot about the layout of my house in the process. |
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i bought this laser traininer kit and it works VERY well for pistols.... not so much for the ar. been really happy with it. Thanks for the link. That is awesome! I had no Idea!! ETA: The_Beer_Slayer Can you tell us a little about it? What pistol ar you using it? Thoughts on it? |
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I used to dry fire a lot with the AR. Also did a lot with a dedicated .22 upper, until I legged out a few years ago. Now it's mostly dry-fire standing and sitting rapids with a bolt gun. I use an Eliseo AN1 for .22 training now. Same layout as my Tubb 2000, mostly, except the AN1 is a single shot. Still have enought .22 to carry me through my normal training for another year, then it'll probably be more dry-fire heavy. I also make use of an air rifle for rainy days. Dry-fire is important, but I like having a result on paper. Keeps one honest.
All the above is for NRA highpower rifle training. |
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i bought this laser traininer kit and it works VERY well for pistols.... not so much for the ar. been really happy with it. Thanks for the link. That is awesome! I had no Idea!! ETA: The_Beer_Slayer Can you tell us a little about it? What pistol ar you using it? Thoughts on it? i have pretty much used it in every handgun i won <45,9mm> and it works perfectly. i considered getting the targets but to be honest the reflective targets or even just the wall works fine unless you want audible feedback to. the ar15 adapter sucks. it tends to stick and charging for each shot is a PIA, just get the pistol kit. my duty gun is an xd45 and it gets used the most. but every pistol i have used it in has worked perfectly. if you get the complete kit it comes with 2 different sized activators. MAKE SURE you use the correct one or it won't work and will drive you crazy trying to figure out why <the instructions suck> batteries last a long while and the activators are warrantied for 5k shots IIRC and about 30.00 to replace. not cheap but much cheaper than 5k of 45acp or 9mm. at first i wasn't sure recocking after each shot would be practical but so far it hasn't been an issue for my. i still work multiple target drills i just get feed back on the first target. the goal of a kit like this is to improve trigger control and keep your skills for a draw and first shot accuracy, not particularly multiple shots. in a DA pistol it is a non issue as every shot hits the activator. i like it. i plan to get the actual sirt ar15 bolt for my ar15 eventually. i would have gotten the sirt gun but i wanted to be able to practice with MY gun. Laserlyte makes a sound activated kit as well <triggers off firing pin strike> but i read a LOT of issues with intermittent firing from the sound detector. |
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What is the point of dry firing? Stance, sight picture and trigger press... Fundamentals of shooting. Dry fire gives you very good feedback and it's free. Grab a double action pistol and see if you can balance a piece of brass on your front sight and squeeze the trigger. |
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i bought this laser traininer kit and it works VERY well for pistols.... not so much for the ar. been really happy with it. Thanks for the link. That is awesome! I had no Idea!! ETA: The_Beer_Slayer Can you tell us a little about it? What pistol ar you using it? Thoughts on it? i have pretty much used it in every handgun i won <45,9mm> and it works perfectly. i considered getting the targets but to be honest the reflective targets or even just the wall works fine unless you want audible feedback to. the ar15 adapter sucks. it tends to stick and charging for each shot is a PIA, just get the pistol kit. my duty gun is an xd45 and it gets used the most. but every pistol i have used it in has worked perfectly. if you get the complete kit it comes with 2 different sized activators. MAKE SURE you use the correct one or it won't work and will drive you crazy trying to figure out why <the instructions suck> batteries last a long while and the activators are warrantied for 5k shots IIRC and about 30.00 to replace. not cheap but much cheaper than 5k of 45acp or 9mm. at first i wasn't sure recocking after each shot would be practical but so far it hasn't been an issue for my. i still work multiple target drills i just get feed back on the first target. the goal of a kit like this is to improve trigger control and keep your skills for a draw and first shot accuracy, not particularly multiple shots. in a DA pistol it is a non issue as every shot hits the activator. i like it. i plan to get the actual sirt ar15 bolt for my ar15 eventually. i would have gotten the sirt gun but i wanted to be able to practice with MY gun. Laserlyte makes a sound activated kit as well <triggers off firing pin strike> but i read a LOT of issues with intermittent firing from the sound detector. Awesome! thanks for the reply! Itll be worth looking into. |
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I find myself doing this as well. We did this last drill weekend. We even had sticks. Budget cuts suck. |
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Our Great Pyrenees went on a barking spree after I played that. |
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The US Army Marksmanship Unit believes in it strongly. Personally I find it greatly beneficial in detecting flinches and other position issues and thereby eliminating them.
I hadn't shot in quite some time and found myself grouping about 4in at 7yrds with the Smith 642. I give the credit to occasional dry fire. Imagine if I had made the practice a daily occurrence. http://www.odcmp.com/Competitions/USAMU/Techniques.htm Q: How do you guys practice? Do you practice everyday? Do you shoot a match everyday? Do you dry fire a lot? What is the best way to practice? Is it different for smallbore verses highpower? Thanks! Good luck at the Nationals. Mason Parker A: Mason, Developing a training schedule can be a complicated affair. When the coaching staff develops the training schedule we weigh various factors, such as: time available, the time of the year (proximity to major matches) and the skill level of the shooters. An ideal training plan includes a combination of exercises designed to build shooting skills, generate solid zeroes (crucial for CMP matches), and shoot aggregates (practice matches) to assess the current level of ability. Dry firing is an integral part of many of the drills we use in training. During the early part of the year we will extensively dry fire to reinforce (and relearn!) positions and sight pictures that may have atrophied during the Winter, especially in the Standing position. Outside of matches, we average about 3-4 days per week on the range. Each morning we start with a Standing exercise that is a combination of dry and live fire. During the week our shooters will fire a series of drills, both rapid and slow fire, during which the shooters are generating solid data and improving those particular skill sets that make up the different stages of Highpower. Finally, we may shoot one aggregate (800, or 500 point agg.) and record those scores. This lets us track each shooter's development and identifies those key areas that need to be focused on. As to the differences between Smallbore and Highpower, you must train for your chosen sport. There are good training ideas in both disciplines. The mistake I see many Highpower shooters make is shooting matches only (practice or otherwise). Aggregates should comprise only a small part of your training plan. Balance the rest of it with drills designed to build your skills, and your skills and scores will steadily climb. SSG Emil Praslick ========================== Q: Sir, I am a second year NRA classified marksman highpower rifle shooter. I finished second in my class at the 2006 Ohio Service Rifle Championship. I shot a 659x7 on the Rodriguez Range RMC and missed marksman first place by 37 points. I desire to be the best. I bought the Service Rifle Marksmanship Guide prepared by the United States Army Marksmanship Unit through the CMP. I will be attending the 2006 Rifle SAFS at Camp Perry. What should I do between now and then to train, discipline myself, and improve? I can commit to 3 hours per day on the highpower range (200yd, 300yd, and 600yd) in live fire, and another 3 hours at home for dry fire/study/reading. Would you please give me a program and reading resources to be the best I can be. With sincere thanks and God’s blessing on you, Harry Burgess Douglas III (H.B.) A: Mr. Douglas, Let's see what we can come up with for a training plan for you. Remember, you will not improve by simply putting bullets into Lake Erie. You have to practice shooting "good" shots, not just practice shooting. With that in mind, here is some training ideas with which you can work. First, get yourself so that you prepare your equipment the same way every time. Do this at home, as it is easier to work it out and repeat it over and over again. For example, when going up to the firing line for standing, I first pick out where I want to stand, then move my shooting stool up to my position. This "marks" my spot so I can move off of the line in order to get the rest of my things together. From there, I make sure that my zero is on the rifle, blacken my sights, get my ammo ready, get all my items out where I can get to them, make sure my data book is ready to go, and then put my jacket on. The reason this is important, is it allows you to take advantage of your full preparation period to dry fire and get ready mentally, instead of chasing down all of your equipment or whatever. The same goes for all other positions. Have your own routine that you go through to get yourself ready. Being prepared is the first step to success. Next, there is no substitute for dry firing!! Dry firing allows you to experiment with hand positions, or sling settings without trying it on match day. Dry firing is also an effective inclement weather practice plan. Be sure to take good notes on lessons learned while dry firing. Importantly, make your dry fire session as match-like as possible; wear ear plugs, keep a timer, and even plot your calls on some makeshift data book pages. Dry firing in this manner will help you to create a mental routine for each shot. Perfecting this routine is what will ultimately allow you to maximize your potential. As for reading, knowledge is power. Arm yourself with all of the information possible to give you different perspectives. I can assure you that you will find every champion does his or her own thing differently, but does it the same way every time. The more you can learn, the broader the knowledge base you will have when applying to your own routine. There are several publications available from most shooting supply vendors such as Creedmoor Sports, Champion's Choice or Champion Shooter's Supply to name a few. Remember, matches are a way to gauge how well you have practiced. If you practice well, you will do well in the matches. Going to the range for practice is important for getting zeroes, keeping your timing right for rapid fire, and to also gain confidence. However, when you don't have your shooting buddy to go with you to the range, dry fire!! You have probably heard of visualization. You can visualize and go over your routine without ever pulling a trigger! This will give your mind the practice it needs to be ready for match day. Just remember when visualizing keep all of your thoughts positive. Positive thoughts lead to positive actions. I hope these ideas help you to be successful. Good Shooting, SFC Norm Anderson |
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I am using 12 gauge dummy rounds btw. Same here but have not done it for a lil while and I only have two of the 12 ga dummy rounds. I got 6 from CMC. They shipped quick, and were cheap enough to justify getting a few. |