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Quoted: Good post. I would use John McCain's "Russia is a gas station masquerading as a country" analogy, and say that Ukraine is like the gas station that was stealing credit cards and being used for money laundering, and it's about to be under new management. Not erased from the map. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Good post. I would use John McCain's "Russia is a gas station masquerading as a country" analogy, and say that Ukraine is like the gas station that was stealing credit cards and being used for money laundering, and it's about to be under new management. Not erased from the map. I was able to buy tons of "liberated" military vehicle parts from Russia. I couldn't do it from Ukraine although recently I am getting busted Russian tank parts from them...off Russian tanks ![]() Your slanted claims don't line up with reality. Quoted: Ukraine is their home and it is being invaded by Russians. But it's only been independent for 30 years. And once again, they didn't do a thing in 2014, why should they fight now? They're going to lose, it's just a matter of when. Russia has the magic button. Ukrainians aren't going to disappear. The conquering army shares a lot of genetics and culture. This isn't Arabs wanting to erase Jews. It was an independent country prior to being conquered by the Russian and Soviet empires. It actually pre-existed the Rus by a good number of years and when Moscow was still a bog Kyiv had it's own churches, city, and was built up. There is a reason there is a thing known as the Kyivan Rus and the Rus. Russia has been practicing genocide in an attempt to erase Ukrainian identity. That's a stated goal of theirs and repeated by the Russian government. They stated Ukraine will no longer exist outside of a rump Government. The majority of people and land will be "Russified", thus why Russian teachers were captured in the fall of 2022. They were forcing Ukrainian children to be Russian. Quoted: Imagine your house is burning down and the ungrateful, lying, corrupt fuckheads in this government and the puppet state they created are tell you “you just haven’t given us enough money” as they steal more and more of it as our borders are being invaded every day. Our house isn't burning down. We have plenty of problems, but I have no doubt we can accomplish all of them at once given the brightness of the minds here. ![]() Quoted: You grave overestimate the amount of honor the last century has had in war my friend. There are a ton of brave men who disagree with you. You focus on Stalin, FDR, and others while I point to Audie Murphy, Jon Basilone, and Baldomero López. There's enough honor and heroism in those last 3 to fill the Atlantic. Quoted: I’m a real American, as is he. What did Washington say about Foreign Entanglements? What did Madison say about going out and looking for Monsters to slay? The founding fathers sent foreign aid and had no problems begging for it, too. Franklin and Jefferson went to Paris to beg the French for help against the British. I too am a real American ![]() |
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Quoted: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67767246.amp https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_7057_jpeg-3064660.JPG View Quote That kinda makes me think the Russian claims to Uraine losing almost 400k troops is accurate. But the only source seems to be some Iranian outfit. Then again, hard to imagine Russia having fewer casualties than Ukraine https://www.reuters.com/world/us-intelligence-assesses-ukraine-war-has-cost-russia-315000-casualties-source-2023-12-12/ NYTimes said 500k casualties https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/18/us/politics/ukraine-russia-war-casualties.html Questionable/propoganda source - Iran Front Page https://ifpnews.com/russia-ukraine-383k-troops/ |
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Quoted: And I’d have no problem shooting you, especially if you tried to conscript my child for a corrupt regime View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: If this was our land that was invaded, I would have no problem shooting those fleeing the fight. And I’d have no problem shooting you, especially if you tried to conscript my child for a corrupt regime Yep. My kids ain’t cannon fodder for Pedo Joe and the MIC |
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The place was losing population to emigration before the war, no?
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Quoted: Quoted: The founding fathers sent foreign aid and had no problems begging for it, too. Franklin and Jefferson went to Paris to beg the French for help against the British. I too am a real American ![]() Lots of people forget this II. Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled. III. The country that was born out of that wasn't recognized as such until the Treaty of Paris (1783) It wasn't until we ratified the Constitution that we considered ourselves united states. (I.E. a single country) "Britain acknowledges the United States, comprising what had been the Province of New Hampshire, Province of Massachusetts Bay, Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, Connecticut Colony, Province of New York, Province of New Jersey, Province of Pennsylvania, Delaware Colony, Province of Maryland, Colony of Virginia, Province of North Carolina, Province of South Carolina, and Province of Georgia, to be free, sovereign, and independent states, and that the British Crown and all heirs and successors relinquish claims to the Government, property, and territorial rights of the same, and every part thereof," |
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The dodgers must be a serious issue.
Per BBC: they need 100k just to maintian current levels, cant mobilize even half of that, and want to mobilize a total of 500k. ![]() Ukraine war: Kyiv forced to cut military operations as foreign aid dries up | BBC News |
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View Quote Seems now, they are pretty desperate "those who fail to volunteer may face an unspecified sanction." Press gangs anyone? |
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Quoted: They actually already "sent the invitation" earlier this year. It wasn't mandatory and held no punishment if you ignore it. Seems now, they are pretty desperate "those who fail to volunteer may face an unspecified sanction." Press gangs anyone? View Quote They’re in a national war for survival since Russia invaded in 2014. |
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Quoted: They actually already "sent the invitation" earlier this year. It wasn't mandatory and held no punishment if you ignore it. Seems now, they are pretty desperate "those who fail to volunteer may face an unspecified sanction." Press gangs anyone? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: They actually already "sent the invitation" earlier this year. It wasn't mandatory and held no punishment if you ignore it. Seems now, they are pretty desperate "those who fail to volunteer may face an unspecified sanction." Press gangs anyone? We did a pretty good job taking Pacific islands, European beaches and winning naval and air engagements...with press gangs. |
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Quoted: ? Thought 1812 was last time for press gangs USN View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: We did a pretty good job taking Pacific islands, European beaches and winning naval and air engagements...with press gangs. ? Thought 1812 was last time for press gangs USN A pejorative for draft. |
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Quoted: Ditto. I wouldn't die for Z man or the wrong Western interests (England & US both of whom want war with Russia). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I wouldn't fight in that corrupt war either Ditto. I wouldn't die for Z man or the wrong Western interests (England & US both of whom want war with Russia). Yup. The place is a corrupt shithole that was barely a manageable place to live before the war. Then foreign interests offered the Western Uke oligarchs a deal to trash the Eastern Uke oligarchs to press their stupid one-world government BS. |
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Quoted: Dodging a draft for a war overseas vs keeping invading forces at bay But, I can understand if a person wants to avoid just being thrown into a wasteful meat grinder and having a pointless meaningless death View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Every war has its draft dodgers. Dodging a draft for a war overseas vs keeping invading forces at bay But, I can understand if a person wants to avoid just being thrown into a wasteful meat grinder and having a pointless meaningless death that's all it is. For the normies. |
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Look, we have to make sure this thing lasts long enough for these LNG plants to get online and the big guys start getting paid. Gotta keep that russian gas tap turned off.
The LNG Plant thread $$$$$$ |
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Quoted: They're in a national war for survival since Russia invaded in 2014. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: They actually already "sent the invitation" earlier this year. It wasn't mandatory and held no punishment if you ignore it. Seems now, they are pretty desperate "those who fail to volunteer may face an unspecified sanction." Press gangs anyone? They're in a national war for survival since Russia invaded in 2014. There's a reason (other than the war) that a lot of Ukrainians don't live there anymore. They plan to attempt to draft all of them. Can you say desperate? How about tyrannical. News flash, if Ukr national living in the USA for the last 4 years says no and some "unspecified sanctions" are applied to them it's outright tyranny. |
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Quoted: So? There's a reason (other than the war) that a lot of Ukrainians don't live there anymore. They plan to attempt to draft all of them. Can you say desperate? How about tyrannical. News flash, if Ukr national living in the USA for the last 4 years says no and some "unspecified sanctions" are applied to them it's outright tyranny. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: They actually already "sent the invitation" earlier this year. It wasn't mandatory and held no punishment if you ignore it. Seems now, they are pretty desperate "those who fail to volunteer may face an unspecified sanction." Press gangs anyone? They're in a national war for survival since Russia invaded in 2014. There's a reason (other than the war) that a lot of Ukrainians don't live there anymore. They plan to attempt to draft all of them. Can you say desperate? How about tyrannical. News flash, if Ukr national living in the USA for the last 4 years says no and some "unspecified sanctions" are applied to them it's outright tyranny. I am unable to comprehend this line of thinking. Did you fill out your selective service card? |
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Quoted: We did a pretty good job taking Pacific islands, European beaches and winning naval and air engagements...with press gangs View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: They actually already "sent the invitation" earlier this year. It wasn't mandatory and held no punishment if you ignore it. Seems now, they are pretty desperate "those who fail to volunteer may face an unspecified sanction." Press gangs anyone? We did a pretty good job taking Pacific islands, European beaches and winning naval and air engagements...with press gangs One actually fled the country. The USA didn't sanction them at all. |
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Quoted: ? Thought 1812 was last time for press gangs USN View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Quoted: I just remembered a shout in New Mexico during WW1 between sheriffs enforcing draft and a family opposing participation. Anyway I thought you guys were literal press gangs. I just rewatched Yellowbeard on Tubi View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Quoted: I am unable to comprehend this line of thinking. Did you fill out your selective service card? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: They actually already "sent the invitation" earlier this year. It wasn't mandatory and held no punishment if you ignore it. Seems now, they are pretty desperate "those who fail to volunteer may face an unspecified sanction." Press gangs anyone? They're in a national war for survival since Russia invaded in 2014. There's a reason (other than the war) that a lot of Ukrainians don't live there anymore. They plan to attempt to draft all of them. Can you say desperate? How about tyrannical. News flash, if Ukr national living in the USA for the last 4 years says no and some "unspecified sanctions" are applied to them it's outright tyranny. I am unable to comprehend this line of thinking. Did you fill out your selective service card? |
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Quoted: Look, we have to make sure this thing lasts long enough for these LNG plants to get online and the big guys start getting paid. Gotta keep that russian ![]() The LNG Plant thread $$$$$$ View Quote Wait, American industry and export is bad now? |
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Quoted: In the USA during WW2 women practiced austerity and didn't go to dances, parties, or had any kind of social life. So did English women. It was a no fun zone from 1939-1945. View Quote I have to call BS on this. It's been shown, repeatedly, that during WWII, millions of Texans went out to gay bars and nightclubs, living their best lives. Life goes on man. |
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Quoted: So? There's a reason (other than the war) that a lot of Ukrainians don't live there anymore. They plan to attempt to draft all of them. Can you say desperate? How about tyrannical. News flash, if Ukr national living in the USA for the last 4 years says no and some "unspecified sanctions" are applied to them it's outright tyranny. View Quote It’s a war for national survival. Of course they can. Folks are gradually filtering back in and even more will return when Russia fails in its objectives. Would you live in a town the Russians occupied? I wouldn’t. |
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Quoted: Yellowbeard is one of the funniest movies ever View Quote I found a press gang clip from the movie ![]() Yellowbeard - deleted scene |
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Quoted: That kinda makes me think the Russian claims to Uraine losing almost 400k troops is accurate. But the only source seems to be some Iranian outfit. Then again, hard to imagine Russia having fewer casualties than Ukraine https://www.reuters.com/world/us-intelligence-assesses-ukraine-war-has-cost-russia-315000-casualties-source-2023-12-12/ NYTimes said 500k casualties https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/18/us/politics/ukraine-russia-war-casualties.html Questionable/propoganda source - Iran Front Page https://ifpnews.com/russia-ukraine-383k-troops/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: That kinda makes me think the Russian claims to Uraine losing almost 400k troops is accurate. But the only source seems to be some Iranian outfit. Then again, hard to imagine Russia having fewer casualties than Ukraine https://www.reuters.com/world/us-intelligence-assesses-ukraine-war-has-cost-russia-315000-casualties-source-2023-12-12/ NYTimes said 500k casualties https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/18/us/politics/ukraine-russia-war-casualties.html Questionable/propoganda source - Iran Front Page https://ifpnews.com/russia-ukraine-383k-troops/ Rus is indeed suffering higher casualties but not by much. To hear the Uke bros tell it all the Russians are dead and not a single UKR soldier is. |
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Quoted: I have to call BS on this. It's been shown, repeatedly, that during WWII, millions of Texans went out to gay bars View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: In the USA during WW2 women practiced austerity and didn't go to dances, parties, or had any kind of social life. So did English women. It was a no fun zone from 1939-1945. I have to call BS on this. It's been shown, repeatedly, that during WWII, millions of Texans went out to gay bars I don't know how I possibly missed this extremely insightful post. It contains much truth! ![]() |
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Hmmm a country with a large amount of Bidet family interests...especially the son. Top it off with it being a vehicle for the marxist impeachment sham, and the little cuck boy vindman who started it.
Who wouldn't fight for that lol ![]() |
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Every country in history with a draft has the same issues.
Russia and America included. |
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Quoted: The NYT was combined UKR ans RUS wounded and KIA. Rus is indeed suffering higher casualties but not by much. To hear the Uke bros tell it all the Russians are dead and not a single UKR soldier is. View Quote Who says not a single Ukrainian soldier is dead? Russia is fighting the war by throwing meat assaults into the face of heavy Ukrainian defenses. That’s documented. The Ukrainians have taken A beating but they are still fighting. Russia has lost much, much more and that’s a documented fact, not an opinion. Please compare oryx and get back to us ![]() |
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Quoted: I have seen tons of comments on here of people saying they wouldn't fight for America. I'd imagine a lot of those posters are ironically the ones also critical of the draft dodgers in Ukraine. Just a bunch of ![]() View Quote America isn’t the same thing as the Uniparty/Globohomo. |
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