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Posted: 1/3/2004 10:01:20 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/3/2004 10:02:42 AM EST by Ka_Bar_Fan]
The latest U.S. Airforce recruitment tool.

www.usafa-aog.org/HateMachine/stealthforce.shtml

Link Posted: 1/3/2004 10:16:33 AM EST
Its not any gayer than that stupid a day in the life of a army basic trainee crap. Look today we did good and got a pizza party yay!
Link Posted: 1/3/2004 10:21:52 AM EST
Like to add. Not only did the cadets act disrespectull to thier CO. And got away with it. (Try to pick out where in the first few minutes.)

But before that screws up MSN. They start talking about sending recruits on a mission against some "rebels".

Russia currently does that. And hows that working out for 'em???
Link Posted: 1/3/2004 10:21:59 AM EST
At least Navy plays Godsmack in our commercials!  Ass kickig song too!
Link Posted: 1/3/2004 10:50:18 AM EST
I've never seen any of that bullshit on a USMC recruiting website.

I will admit, the USMC recruiting commercials have gotten pretty badass here lately.
Link Posted: 1/3/2004 10:58:50 AM EST
At first I thought it was joke, your new name is talon!

got to admit thats a pretty cool name, can you guys start calling me talon??
Link Posted: 1/3/2004 11:43:55 AM EST
Originally Posted By Cypher214:
I've never seen any of that bullshit on a USMC recruiting website.
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I don't think you will find it on a Air Force site either.
Link Posted: 1/3/2004 11:55:31 AM EST
And looking past the Go Army.com site. Anyone ever see thier other recruiting tool, America's Army?
Link Posted: 1/3/2004 12:12:03 PM EST
Originally Posted By Ka_Bar_Fan:
And looking past the Go Army.com site. Anyone ever see thier other recruiting tool, America's Army?
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America's Army is actually pretty cool.  The details regarding the weapons are pretty good.  You can even sit through some medic classes that teach legitimate first aid.

You actually have to qualify with the M16.  You get to familiarize yourself by firing two mags, then you have to qualify in the fighting position and the prone.  You actually look down the sights of the weapon and have to shoot according to your breathing.  Very good detail.
Link Posted: 1/3/2004 12:15:48 PM EST
Originally Posted By RipMeyer:
Originally Posted By Cypher214:
I've never seen any of that bullshit on a USMC recruiting website.
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I don't think you will find it on a Air Force site either.
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Well that's good.  I don't have the elitist attitude about the USMC but the stuff on that website is pretty rediculous.  
Link Posted: 1/3/2004 12:17:43 PM EST
Trying to recruit 10 year olds?
Link Posted: 1/3/2004 2:26:16 PM EST
I'm ex Air Force and I promise you that our enemies don't laugh at our Air Force.Would you prefer that we slugged it out without airpower???Every branch of our Armed Sevices has its role!!!
Link Posted: 1/3/2004 4:18:26 PM EST
Originally Posted By GreyGhost:
I'm ex Air Force and I promise you that our enemies don't laugh at our Air Force.Would you prefer that we slugged it out without airpower???Every branch of our Armed Sevices has its role!!!
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That it does. And no we wouldn't.

Finding amusement in this is a far cry from laughing at the USAF. In fact, it was probably someone in the USAF that allowed this to fall into our hands.  
Link Posted: 1/3/2004 4:39:17 PM EST
The AF and their recruiting methods are the result of a situation where the enlisted personell by and large do not (and never will) fight...

The AF rarely operates in hostile territory, so with the exception of SF/SAR, security police, and aircrew of the few combat aircraft (AC-130 is the only one I can think of since they pulled the guns from the B-52s) that carry enlisted personell, enlisted personell do not (and won't have to) fight...

It's an AF-unique situation (even USN enlisted personell have a chance of finding themselves in combat if their ship/sub is in a battle), which results in the AF-unique recruiting angles, training, and requirements for enlisted airmen...

WRT officer training, that all depends on the institution. The AF relies heavily on ROTC and the Academy for cadet training, and ROTC of course varies in quality from program to program...
Link Posted: 1/3/2004 4:43:27 PM EST
Originally Posted By [red][size=4]talon[/size=4][/red]:
At first I thought it was joke, your new name is talon!

got to admit thats a pretty cool name, can you guys start calling me talon??
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[b][size=4]OK[/size=4][/b]

Link Posted: 1/3/2004 5:00:58 PM EST
From what one of my Academy Grad former Lt's told "The hate Machine" was an "underground paper" sort of thing at the AFA, and at one time was banned, so I think what you are seeing is a parody.
Link Posted: 1/3/2004 6:01:27 PM EST
It's real, it's legit, it came from a USAFA grad who stated it was swiped from the Air Force before they could burry it along with their shame at having produced it. lol

Evidence sucks. lol
Link Posted: 1/3/2004 6:20:19 PM EST
You gotta love some of that stuff though...[rolleyes]  The USAF has a job to do and they do it well.  But I agree that the AF enlisted persons are the least likely to ever get into combat.  But hey what do I know, us Navy guys didn't get to qualify with an M-16 during bootcamp!  I think even the USAF get to do that.  I think things will change and I understand that the Navy is actually leaning towards small arms training being expanded beyond the SeaBees, MA's and the few other ratings that traditionally qualify with small arms regularly.  I personally beleive that every service member no matter what their rating, MOS, job, etc. should be required to qualify annually, at the least with the M-16 and M-9.  You never know who might be confronted with a suicide bomber running at them while standing watch or gate duty, etc.  

So you AF guys shouldn't get your feathers all ruffled.  I mean those cartoons are pretty humiliating but look at the Marines, they have to wear those funny looking Bellhop uniforms and hitch rides with the Navy everywhere they go, hee hee.  Gonna get the Jarheads all riled up now!
Link Posted: 1/3/2004 6:32:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By Valkyrie:
You gotta love some of that stuff though...[rolleyes]  The USAF has a job to do and they do it well.  But I agree that the AF enlisted persons are the least likely to ever get into combat.  But hey what do I know, us Navy guys didn't get to qualify with an M-16 during bootcamp!  I think even the USAF get to do that.  I think things will change and I understand that the Navy is actually leaning towards small arms training being expanded beyond the SeaBees, MA's and the few other ratings that traditionally qualify with small arms regularly.  I personally beleive that every service member no matter what their rating, MOS, job, etc. should be required to qualify annually, at the least with the M-16 and M-9.  You never know who might be confronted with a suicide bomber running at them while standing watch or gate duty, etc.  

So you AF guys shouldn't get your feathers all ruffled.  [red]I mean those cartoons are pretty humiliating but look at the Marines, they have to wear those funny looking Bellhop uniforms [/red] and hitch rides with the Navy everywhere they go, hee hee.  Gonna get the Jarheads all riled up now!
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I'm not a Marine (Army MP) but if your talking about the Marines dress Blues, Man your nuts! That is the sharpest uniform in all of the US Military. I'd be damn proud to wear that uniform.[:D]

COZ
Link Posted: 1/3/2004 6:40:22 PM EST
Originally Posted By COZ:
Originally Posted By Valkyrie:
You gotta love some of that stuff though...[rolleyes]  The USAF has a job to do and they do it well.  But I agree that the AF enlisted persons are the least likely to ever get into combat.  But hey what do I know, us Navy guys didn't get to qualify with an M-16 during bootcamp!  I think even the USAF get to do that.  I think things will change and I understand that the Navy is actually leaning towards small arms training being expanded beyond the SeaBees, MA's and the few other ratings that traditionally qualify with small arms regularly.  I personally beleive that every service member no matter what their rating, MOS, job, etc. should be required to qualify annually, at the least with the M-16 and M-9.  You never know who might be confronted with a suicide bomber running at them while standing watch or gate duty, etc.  

So you AF guys shouldn't get your feathers all ruffled.  [red]I mean those cartoons are pretty humiliating but look at the Marines, they have to wear those funny looking Bellhop uniforms [/red] and hitch rides with the Navy everywhere they go, hee hee.  Gonna get the Jarheads all riled up now!
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I'm not a Marine (Army MP) but if your talking about the Marines dress Blues, Man your nuts! That is the sharpest uniform in all of the US Military. I'd be damn proud to wear that uniform.[:D]

COZ
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Inside joke between Navy and Marines.  We've been known to call them  them Sea Going Bellhops.
Link Posted: 1/3/2004 9:29:47 PM EST
Originally Posted By Horrido:
It's real, it's legit, it came from a USAFA grad who stated it was swiped from the Air Force before they could burry it along with their shame at having produced it. lol

Evidence sucks. lol
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Evidence sucks. But The Hate machine doesn't. Go 42nd!

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