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Posted: 10/9/2007 1:01:31 PM EST
Don't you love those little self proclaimed Democrats who have no idea wtf is going on...
I'm in high school and there are a bunch of little kids who run around saying republicans are dumb and just say "bush is dumb" every three seconds.

I got into and argument that went as usual today with one of these bird brains and the said democrats are way better than republicans and that republicans are stupid!!!!

I said O.K. your entitled to your opinion.... but what do democrats believe in?

His reply " I dunno... Bush is dumb"

Seriously these people need to castrate themselves so they don't breed into society...
It's ok to have a opinion that you stand by... IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT
j0hn
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 1:06:34 PM EST
I love all of God's little Children.

Be it some less than others.



Naw, this is just a free bump start.
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 1:12:08 PM EST
I run across adults who are just as much clueless as these high school students.

They think if they talk loud and say things such as, "All Clinton did was get a BJ, look what Bush has done!" or "Bush is an idiot!"

They say these things real loud when you try discuss facts. If you present them with something they can not explain, they say these thing even louder.

My favorite was a lady saying the all so normal, "Bush is an idiot." This after I dismantled everything she had to say about the data we had leading up to the Iraq war. She had no response so fell back on that. At this point I just have fun and start asking stuff like, "I'm sorry, what year did you graduate from Yale?" or "How much money did you make last year."

Link Posted: 10/9/2007 1:40:53 PM EST
My sister's got her 12 year-old daughter involved in all the anti-Bush and Global Warming crap.

I never miss an opportunity to engage and destroy in conversation.

Link Posted: 10/9/2007 6:06:36 PM EST
Im surrounded by these people (friends and co-workers) and trying to discuss politics with these people is like talking to a GD wall. I know its wrong to just give up...i try and get condemned. I dont really care if they disagree with me, but getting them to even have a polite discussion is a struggle. -it kicks off a rant!
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 6:09:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/9/2007 6:14:29 PM EST by agreendale]
well... bush is dumb

eta : your rant can go both ways. there's millions of uneducated republicans out there too. ex. it must be true, "i saw it on fox" "bush said it" "rush said it" "it's in the bilble" etc.

ap
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 1:50:01 AM EST
Yeah that part is a rant... but my main point was I said your entitled to your opinion but what do democrats believe in? And the thing that came outta this guy who had been strenuously arguing with me for the last thirty minutes how republicans are bad and democrats are good yet he didn't even know what the party he was supporting believes in.

j0hn
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 2:13:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:
My sister's got her 12 year-old daughter involved in all the anti-Bush and Global Warming crap.

I never miss an opportunity to engage and destroy in conversation.


Your a good citizen
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 2:17:29 AM EST

Originally Posted By j0hn:
Yeah that part is a rant... but my main point was I said your entitled to your opinion but what do democrats believe in? And the thing that came outta this guy who had been strenuously arguing with me for the last thirty minutes how republicans are bad and democrats are good yet he didn't even know what the party he was supporting believes in.


Can you explain what Republicans "believe in"?

It sure isn't "small government" anymore...
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 2:27:05 AM EST
Bush believes in illegal aliens, bigger government, and Africa.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 2:28:54 AM EST
Why are you debating high-schoolers?

Thats like trying to have a conversation with Bill Mahr.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 2:30:20 AM EST

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Why are you debating high-schoolers?

Thats like trying to have a conversation with Bill Mahr.

Maybe...because...he's...IN...high school..?
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 2:39:41 AM EST
A co-worker of mine votes Democrat all the time.

When approached as to why... she says 'I've just been always doing it, its just the way my family is'

My response to that was 'Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa...'
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 2:44:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
Bush believes in illegal aliens, bigger government, and Africa.


You don't think illegal aliens, bigger government and Africa exist?
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 2:47:39 AM EST

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Why are you debating high-schoolers?

Thats like trying to have a conversation with Bill Mahr.

Maybe...because...he's...IN...high school..?


The advice stands.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 2:49:40 AM EST
In my high school, students were doing the same thing. The worst part is that the teachers encouraged that kind of bullshit. Crap like this had a lot to do with shaping my current beliefs.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 4:05:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By 110:
Im surrounded by these people (friends and co-workers) and trying to discuss politics with these people is like talking to a GD wall. I know its wrong to just give up...i try and get condemned. I dont really care if they disagree with me, but getting them to even have a polite discussion is a struggle. -it kicks off a rant!




Well said.

I do however, feel your pain on the discussion part. I run into this all the time.

Me: "Why do you like that candidate?"

Them: "Republicans are stupid!"

Me: "Okay, but WHY do YOU like your candidate? What will he do better for you and the country?"

Them: "All Republicans are idiots!"


Seriously, it's like a f**king pre-school nanner-nanner conversation. I fully expect one of these idiots to say, "I know you are but what am I!?"

Pretty hard to have a "discussion" with a parrot.

CMOS
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 4:14:39 AM EST
Those stupid kids learned to talk like that from stupid adults.... they didn't come up with it on their own..
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 4:17:13 AM EST
Get used to it. I listen to college students and twenty-somethings all the time who spout off on political issues but don't have any facts or figures as eveidence. They argue based on emotion.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 4:20:16 AM EST

Originally Posted By SIG_gunner:
Get used to it. I listen to college students and twenty-somethings all the time who spout off on political issues but don't have any facts or figures as eveidence. They argue based on emotion.


I see this every damn day. Makes my nose bleed the stupidity that comes out of their mouths.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 4:22:16 AM EST
Kids right now aren't really "aware" of any political issues except for Iraq. To them it's simple, Bush = Iraq, Democrats = No Iraq. It's nowhere near that simple (or even close to true, at this point) but thats still how they see it.

It's been said on this site before, but it still applies. Bush has done a good job of killing the GOP, at least for a few years.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 4:22:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By pdg45acp:
Those stupid kids learned to talk like that from stupid adults.... they didn't come up with it on their own..


FWIW, it's usually that way for kids on both sides of the divide.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 4:29:18 AM EST
I am no big fan of Bush. However, whenever I hear the "Bush is Dumb" rant, I have to reply: "Really, when did you get a MBA from Harvard?".

That is a master's degree from Harvard. Almost none of the "Bush is Dumb" types have a BS or BA, let alone a master's.

The man is not dumb. Clueless maybe, but not dumb.

Link Posted: 10/10/2007 4:41:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By CMOS:


Pretty hard to have a "discussion" with a parrot.

CMOS


I have a parrot and most times I prefer to have discussions with him. He is much smarter than a good portion of the people I know. Especially most democrats and college students....

Joe
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 4:45:25 AM EST
I love how they say Bush is an idiot......but an evil genius whom planned the 9/11 attack and fooled us all into a war in Iraq.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 4:47:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By j0hn:
Yeah that part is a rant... but my main point was I said your entitled to your opinion but what do democrats believe in? And the thing that came outta this guy who had been strenuously arguing with me for the last thirty minutes how republicans are bad and democrats are good yet he didn't even know what the party he was supporting believes in.

j0hn



Yah pretty much hit it right there... Right now (for the last 10-15 years) democrats have not believed in anything, they just don't believe in stuff. They don't have solutions to problems, they are just against what is going on or being done.

It is a much easier if worthless position.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 4:48:53 AM EST
Modern Dems remind me of the sheep in Animal Farm.

Shouting out bumper stikcer slogans is no way to debate public policy.

Bush Lied
Iraq is Arabic for Vietnam
etc.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 4:51:34 AM EST

Don't you love those little self proclaimed Democrats who have no idea wtf is going on...


I thought this was a GWB thread....


Link Posted: 10/10/2007 5:54:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/10/2007 5:57:08 AM EST by pukindog]

Originally Posted By j0hn:
It's ok to have a opinion that you stand by... IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT
j0hn


There's a guy I work with who throws out the "Bush is an idiot" line every now and then, so one day I asked him "why?"
"he just is" was his answer.
"what do you mean he just is?", says me.
"He's just an idiot" he answers again.
So we go around in circles like this for a while and he never can tell me why Bush is an idiot. I have my own disagreements with the President, but at least I can articulate them.
After getting to know this guy a little better, what it appears to come down to is he has heard other people say Bush is an idiot, and because of what he hears constantly in the media, he believes everyone in the country thinks that way. He is just agreeing with the so-called "common wisdom".
He has the same attitude about guns, saying "I support the 2nd amendment, but no one needs an AK-47". I ask him why and he not only can't answer, after some discussion it turns out he has no clue whatsoever what an "AK-47" actually is. He can't even identify one on sight. He says things like this because he has been lead to believe this is the way enlightened, reasonable people think on the issue, and he considers himself one of those people. It has nothing to do with informing himself and then making a decision.
I can deal with people having opinions in opposition to mine, but in the case of this guy at work, in my estimation he doesn't have a real opinion - he is doing nothing more than being a parrot on the bandwagon. I can deal with that too, but I am not nearly as cordial about it.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 6:01:12 AM EST
Well, Bush IS Dumb........
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 1:11:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Why are you debating high-schoolers?

Thats like trying to have a conversation with Bill Mahr.

Maybe...because...he's...IN...high school..?


That may be the first reason... but I have converted my Cal Teacher against Hillary...
Never miss a chance to persuade someone from voting for that bull dike.

j0hn
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 1:14:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By SIG_gunner:
Get used to it. I listen to college students and twenty-somethings all the time who spout off on political issues but don't have any facts or figures as eveidence. They argue based on emotion.


People in my area like that just hop and the bandwagon... They say it because all their friends friends say it...

Can't avoid parrots... Let's just hope natural selection aids us
j0hn
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 1:15:10 PM EST
You can't argue logic with idiots and liars.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 2:33:32 PM EST
Sadly my inlaws fall into this catagory, they are staunch dems. they vote straight party ticket on everything.....
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 2:34:48 PM EST
I met a girl in GRADUATE SCHOOL who had never heard of the Electoral College and didn't know what it was during the John Kerry / George Bush election aftermath.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 2:46:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/10/2007 2:48:14 PM EST by ben72227]

Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks:
I am no big fan of Bush. However, whenever I hear the "Bush is Dumb" rant, I have to reply: "Really, when did you get a MBA from Harvard?".

That is a master's degree from Harvard. Almost none of the "Bush is Dumb" types have a BS or BA, let alone a master's.

The man is not dumb. Clueless maybe, but not dumb.



True, but some of the more...uh...'enlightened' ones will comeback with something like "Sure, he got into Harvard - but only because his Daddy was head of the CIA"

IMHO I think Bush is extremely intelligent in real life...he just plays stupid on tv to cater to 'his base'. Also, he may be clueless/has made some major misjudgements.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 3:13:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/10/2007 3:15:22 PM EST by Miami02TJ]

Originally Posted By agreendale:
well... bush is dumb

eta : your rant can go both ways. there's millions of uneducated republicans out there too. ex. it must be true, "i saw it on fox" "bush said it" "rush said it" "it's in the bilble" etc.

ap


X2 -- Im a Dem ... What is going to really fuck up this country is the polar split we are having between dems and reps. Its like there is no in-between anymore.

I'm really tired of hearing crap like "dems are ..." or Reps are ..." ... That split is going to kill this country ...
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 9:19:40 PM EST

Originally Posted By RichinCM:

Originally Posted By Miami02TJ:
X2 -- Im a Dem ... What is going to really fuck up this country is the polar split we are having between dems and reps. Its like there is no in-between anymore.

I'm really tired of hearing crap like "dems are ..." or Reps are ..." ... That split is going to kill this country ...


The split was initiated by the Democrats via the politics of personal destruction they started during the Clinton era. Clinton never believed in debate and the idea of 'agreeing to disagree'; he wanted to destroy his political opponents. I saw a lot of the same partisan BS by the Democrats when I lived in Kalifornistan. Clinton would have destroyed this country if he had kept his zipper up...

Take a hard look at who is spouting the most inflammatory rhetoric - it will almost invariably be a Democrat - or Ann Coulter...


Wow do you live in a bubble? I mean seriously -- you are a perfect exapmle of what I'm talking about ... thanks for proving my point!
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 10:42:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/10/2007 10:45:24 PM EST by ben72227]

Originally Posted By RichinCM:

Originally Posted By Miami02TJ:
X2 -- Im a Dem ... What is going to really fuck up this country is the polar split we are having between dems and reps. Its like there is no in-between anymore.

I'm really tired of hearing crap like "dems are ..." or Reps are ..." ... That split is going to kill this country ...


The split was initiated by the Democrats via the politics of personal destruction they started during the Clinton era. Clinton never believed in debate and the idea of 'agreeing to disagree'; he wanted to destroy his political opponents. I saw a lot of the same partisan BS by the Democrats when I lived in Kalifornistan. Clinton would have destroyed this country if he had kept his zipper up...

Take a hard look at who is spouting the most inflammatory rhetoric - it will almost invariably be a Democrat - or Ann Coulter...


The Dems may have started it, but the Republicans pushed it to where it is today.

Stuff like FOX News and people like Sean Hannity pushing the divide every chance they can get. Don't forget how much the Republicans attacked Clinton (even before his affair) - people like Rush and Gingrich, etc.

I'm conservative (but not Republican) and to try and paint the Republicans as better than the Dems is simply ludicrous. The Dems may be socialists...but the Republicans have a lot of strikes against them as well - everything from violating civil rights/privacy (i.e. Terry Schiavo, certain sections of the PATRIOT ACT, etc.) to corruption (i.e. Alberto Gonzales firing the federal attorneys, Larry Craig nonsense, etc.) and many other things I can't think of off the top of my head at the moment.

In the end, they both suck, and every election is simply tantamount to choosing the lesser of two evils unfortunately.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 10:50:23 PM EST
Republicans are every bit as stupid as democrats.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 11:11:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/10/2007 11:13:04 PM EST by the870isking]
Bush IS the dumbest President ever.

And, the 2 party system is a trainwreck.
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 1:06:10 PM EST

Originally Posted By Mr_Psmith:
I met a girl in GRADUATE SCHOOL who had never heard of the Electoral College and didn't know what it was during the John Kerry / George Bush election aftermath.


These people are also the ones who cast uniformed votes... At least they are coting however... nothing pisses me off more than someone who bashes and political figure when they didn't vote... If you didn't vote against them stfu... that was your chance to speak out...

j0hn
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 1:13:16 PM EST
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