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Posted: 11/2/2009 11:17:56 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:19:39 AM EDT
[#1]





Have you looked at the property taxes?

I think they're charging 3yrs in advance now.



Where did you plan to work?



Where did you plan to buy your groceries?
 
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:19:57 AM EDT
[#2]
You buy one, I'll come visit.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:20:27 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:


Have you looked at the property taxes?
I think they're charging 3yrs in advance now.

Where did you plan to work?

Where did you plan to buy your groceries?


 


Where do you plan to buy your ammo?
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:20:58 AM EDT
[#4]
Arf should pitch in for a house they'd be forced to defend sooner or later.

And then post the pics, of course.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:21:47 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:


Have you looked at the property taxes?
I think they're charging 3yrs in advance now.

Where did you plan to work?

Where did you plan to buy your groceries?

 


Might want to recalibrate the 'ol facetious-meter

This thread wasn't exactly begging for a serious response...
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:25:24 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Quoted:


Have you looked at the property taxes?
I think they're charging 3yrs in advance now.

Where did you plan to work?

Where did you plan to buy your groceries?


 


Where do you plan to buy your ammo?


self sustainable community

I'm in!
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:31:23 AM EDT
[#7]
Unbelievable.



The median home price in Detroit is $7500




Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:43:43 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:


Have you looked at the property taxes?
I think they're charging 3yrs in advance now.

Where did you plan to work?

Where did you plan to buy your groceries?




Second thought.  Let's say I was being serious...

1)  What's 40 millage points on a $1000 home times 3 years?  Think about it...

2)  Detroit is less than 40 minutes by highway from Ann Arbor (unemployment 4%)

3)  See above and divide distance by two.

I wouldn't seriously want to live in Detroit but in theory a rugged individual with good home fortification skills could live on the cheap and make it work.  A pack of said rugged individuals could probably occupy and hold a neighborhood fairly easily.  Crackheads and squatters aren't known for their sophisticated weaponry and superior offensive tactics.

Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:45:55 AM EDT
[#9]



Quoted:


Unbelievable.



The median home price in Detroit is $7500






That's just insane.

And I worry that THAT will be the future.



 
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:47:13 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:


Have you looked at the property taxes?
I think they're charging 3yrs in advance now.

Where did you plan to work?

Where did you plan to buy your groceries?




Second thought.  Let's say I was being serious...

1)  What's 40 millage points on a $1000 home times 3 years?  Think about it...

2)  Detroit is less than 40 minutes by highway from Ann Arbor (unemployment 4%)

3)  See above and divide distance by two.

I wouldn't seriously want to live in Detroit but in theory a rugged individual with good home fortification skills could live on the cheap and make it work.  A pack of said rugged individuals could probably occupy and hold a neighborhood fairly easily.  Crackheads and squatters aren't known for their sophisticated weaponry and superior offensive tactics.



what is the assessed value of the home?  Surely its closer to 50/75/100k
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:47:20 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Unbelievable.

The median home price in Detroit is $7500


That's just insane.
And I worry that THAT will be the future.
 


That IS THE FUTURE of many demoncrap run cities and soon to be states.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:49:17 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
You buy one, I'll come visit.


Lock and load.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:51:06 AM EDT
[#13]
Screw the group buy.

Just buy a whole neighborhood and bulldoze everything to lower the property tax value to where you can just sit on it.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:53:34 AM EDT
[#14]
$500 ?? Why pay that much... You need to go to the $1 Auction Site
page on the county site


Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:53:51 AM EDT
[#15]


You would need
a) a large, bullet resistant wall and perhaps even a moat of sorts outside of that.  
b) full-time armed security
c) a bulldozer to 'doze the current shithouses.
d) jobs to support moving and rebuilding in a war zone.

Don't forget:  There's a reason there are no real big box or grocery stores in Detroit.

John
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:55:21 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:


Have you looked at the property taxes?
I think they're charging 3yrs in advance now.

Where did you plan to work?

Where did you plan to buy your groceries?


 


Where do you plan to buy your ammo?



You will be needing a lot, I would suggest an air drop for delivery.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:56:29 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:


Have you looked at the property taxes?
I think they're charging 3yrs in advance now.

Where did you plan to work?

Where did you plan to buy your groceries?




Second thought.  Let's say I was being serious...

1)  What's 40 millage points on a $1000 home times 3 years?  Think about it...

2)  Detroit is less than 40 minutes by highway from Ann Arbor (unemployment 4%)

3)  See above and divide distance by two.

I wouldn't seriously want to live in Detroit but in theory a rugged individual with good home fortification skills could live on the cheap and make it work.  A pack of said rugged individuals could probably occupy and hold a neighborhood fairly easily.  Crackheads and squatters aren't known for their sophisticated weaponry and superior offensive tactics.



what is the assessed value of the home?  Surely its closer to 50/75/100k


Thats the problem, if the property tax was based on the actual sale price of the house, these things wouldnt be so hard to sell.  However, since the government needs money, they just keep the assessed value high and screw over the property holders.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:57:09 AM EDT
[#18]
Living in Detroit would be like " I am Legend".
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:58:08 AM EDT
[#19]


that's really too bad.

Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:58:36 AM EDT
[#20]
"Buyer to pay for city inspection upon acceptance of offer."

How do any of those pass any kind of inspection?

Sad really.  Imagine some of those houses were really nice back in the day.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:59:15 AM EDT
[#21]
Snake and Nape™



Apply liberally.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:00:43 PM EDT
[#22]



Quoted:


Living in Detroit would be like " I am Legend".


Damn right it would be, zombies and all.  



 
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:00:46 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Living in Detroit would be like " I am Legend".


And the Vampire Monsters would be???

Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:01:42 PM EDT
[#24]



Quoted:



Quoted:


Quoted:


Quoted:






Have you looked at the property taxes?

I think they're charging 3yrs in advance now.



Where did you plan to work?



Where did you plan to buy your groceries?









Second thought.  Let's say I was being serious...



1)  What's 40 millage points on a $1000 home times 3 years?  Think about it...



2)  Detroit is less than 40 minutes by highway from Ann Arbor (unemployment 4%)



3)  See above and divide distance by two.



I wouldn't seriously want to live in Detroit but in theory a rugged individual with good home fortification skills could live on the cheap and make it work.  A pack of said rugged individuals could probably occupy and hold a neighborhood fairly easily.  Crackheads and squatters aren't known for their sophisticated weaponry and superior offensive tactics.







what is the assessed value of the home?  Surely its closer to 50/75/100k




Thats the problem, if the property tax was based on the actual sale price of the house, these things wouldnt be so hard to sell.  However, since the government needs money, they just keep the assessed value high and screw over the property holders.

What do they need money for?  To sustain government?  They are already asking people to move closer to downtown because they can't adequately sustain civil services.



Now what about a group buy of an area towards the outside of town?  Could we buy a section and un-incorporate from the city?  Then there are no more city taxes.  



 
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:02:12 PM EDT
[#25]



Quoted:







You would need

a) a large, bullet resistant wall and perhaps even a moat of sorts outside of that.  

b) full-time armed security

c) a bulldozer to 'doze the current shithouses.

d) jobs to support moving and rebuilding in a war zone.



Don't forget:  There's a reason there are no real big box or grocery stores in Detroit.



John


You forgot:



e) a 4500' runway to support resupply, and a plane, and a pilot



 
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:02:15 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Living in Detroit would be like " I am Legend".


And the Vampire Monsters would be???



all the thugs running around?
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:03:38 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
You buy one, I'll come visit.


Can I man the M2 on the back of your truck?
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:05:41 PM EDT
[#28]
500 bucks for a house in Detroit?

I'd wait a while for the prices to come a little more before a bought a house there.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:08:26 PM EDT
[#29]
1. Buy up half the city and tell the City to get fucked when they come begging for change.

2. Replace corrupt assholes come election as you own half the City.

3. This spawns new era for Detroit.

4. ???

5. Profit!!!
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:09:32 PM EDT
[#30]
Anyone else up for making Delta City a reality? We don't need no stinkin' OCP!

Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:10:05 PM EDT
[#31]
I'm sure this was posted before...Detroit House Auction Flop
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:10:46 PM EDT
[#32]
I wonder what some of the mansions auto execs lived in and are empty now are going for?
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:21:06 PM EDT
[#33]
Detroit- Preview of America's Future.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:23:30 PM EDT
[#34]
http://www.kevinbauman.com/100abandonedhouses/   Is just one example.



There are dozens of sites that have hundreds of photos of abandon schools, libraries, police stations, churches, colleges, etc, all over the city and outlying counties.  I spent the better part of a weekend a month ago just looking at them.  Examples were the above mentioned buildings abandoned intact.  Nobody bothered to move out, they just closed the doors and left.



One notable one was a police station that still had a full property room that was slowly being looted, with several weapons scattered on the floor.



It was amazing, in total.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:24:37 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Living in Detroit would be like " I am Legend".


Yeah, only it would be called "I am Stupid"
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:28:40 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:


Have you looked at the property taxes?
I think they're charging 3yrs in advance now.

Where did you plan to work?

Where did you plan to buy your groceries?




Second thought.  Let's say I was being serious...

1)  What's 40 millage points on a $1000 home times 3 years?  Think about it...

2)  Detroit is less than 40 minutes by highway from Ann Arbor (unemployment 4%)

3)  See above and divide distance by two.

I wouldn't seriously want to live in Detroit but in theory a rugged individual with good home fortification skills could live on the cheap and make it work.  A pack of said rugged individuals could probably occupy and hold a neighborhood fairly easily.  Crackheads and squatters aren't known for their sophisticated weaponry and superior offensive tactics.



what is the assessed value of the home?  Surely its closer to 50/75/100k


Thats the problem, if the property tax was based on the actual sale price of the house, these things wouldnt be so hard to sell.  However, since the government needs money, they just keep the assessed value high and screw over the property holders.
What do they need money for?  To sustain government?  They are already asking people to move closer to downtown because they can't adequately sustain civil services.

Now what about a group buy of an area towards the outside of town?  Could we buy a section and un-incorporate from the city?  Then there are no more city taxes.  
 


Take a look at this gem of a building here.  The city taxes are $561.14 and the county tax is $5,344.99
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:29:50 PM EDT
[#37]
Didn't we just do this thread like a week ago? Maybe 2?

I remember joking with Deej about it.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:32:43 PM EDT
[#38]
I lived in Detroit for 20 years and still have family down there.

It is possible to do the group buy thing.

It would not be as fun as sounds.  The cops don't bother good citizens
BUT a big problem would be the courts and prosecutor.  A good self defense
shoot would be a big problem.

You would have to have people watching the "community" 24/7.
Vehicles would be a huge target for thieves.  It seemed that my family
had a car stolen or broken into at least a year.

I would suggest no women or children unless the women were hard core gun bunnies.

Buying food and ammo wouldn't be the problem (if the property was guarded against thieves while you shopped).
Detroit doesn't have a lot of shopping areas but the suburbs are close and you can easily buy there.  Good luck trying
to find workers to come and fix your house. They don't want to come to the 'hood.

Ammo is easy
Michigan is a Mecca for deer hunting and CCW laws are not bad.

RE: Plane There is small airport within the city at 6 and gratiot.

Fortifying a home
We have the fire power.
Get ghetto gates (heavy metal doors)
Bars on windows
2 or more attack dogs (I suggest Rotts but pitbulls are cheap and available in the D)
arfcomm neighbors on 24/7 security

RE:  Elections    not likely political corruption in Detroit is DEEP.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:34:13 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
I wonder what some of the mansions auto execs lived in and are empty now are going for?


Yes but I don't have a price.

These would be ones from the several decades ago.
Since white flight all the execs moved to the suburbs.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:36:26 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:


You would need
a) a large, bullet resistant wall and perhaps even a moat of sorts outside of that.  
b) full-time armed security
c) a bulldozer to 'doze the current shithouses.
d) jobs to support moving and rebuilding in a war zone.

Don't forget:  There's a reason there are no real big box or grocery stores in Detroit.

John


Good post!
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:38:08 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:

Quoted:


You would need
a) a large, bullet resistant wall and perhaps even a moat of sorts outside of that.  
b) full-time armed security
c) a bulldozer to 'doze the current shithouses.
d) jobs to support moving and rebuilding in a war zone.

Don't forget:  There's a reason there are no real big box or grocery stores in Detroit.

John

You forgot:

e) a 4500' runway to support resupply, and a plane, and a pilot
 



I'm in.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:43:40 PM EDT
[#42]
Buy the property cheap.

Get together with all of the other investors and file a class action lawsuit against the apprasial district.

People file suit over property valuations all the time. The government doesn't have a leg to stand on if those are the highest price an a property will go for at auction.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:52:11 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Buy the property cheap.

Get together with all of the other investors and file a class action lawsuit against the apprasial district.

People file suit over property valuations all the time. The government doesn't have a leg to stand on if those are the highest price an a property will go for at auction.


Could work.  I've never filed suit but I've gone down to City Hall twice in the past three years to contest the valuation of my house.  Both times they lowered the valuation by 5%-10%.  I'm saving about $800 per year now and it's locked in forever thanks to the Headlee Amendment.  
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:55:20 PM EDT
[#44]
There is gold in the ground there......seriously.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:56:40 PM EDT
[#45]



Quoted:


There is gold in the ground there......seriously.
We should do a group buy on abandoned cemetery's?  






 
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 1:03:50 PM EDT
[#46]
Good God.  



So, someone tell me again WHY Detroit is such a shithole?
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 1:05:08 PM EDT
[#47]



Quoted:



Quoted:




Quoted:


Quoted:


Quoted:


Quoted:






Have you looked at the property taxes?

I think they're charging 3yrs in advance now.



Where did you plan to work?



Where did you plan to buy your groceries?









Second thought.  Let's say I was being serious...



1)  What's 40 millage points on a $1000 home times 3 years?  Think about it...



2)  Detroit is less than 40 minutes by highway from Ann Arbor (unemployment 4%)



3)  See above and divide distance by two.



I wouldn't seriously want to live in Detroit but in theory a rugged individual with good home fortification skills could live on the cheap and make it work.  A pack of said rugged individuals could probably occupy and hold a neighborhood fairly easily.  Crackheads and squatters aren't known for their sophisticated weaponry and superior offensive tactics.







what is the assessed value of the home?  Surely its closer to 50/75/100k




Thats the problem, if the property tax was based on the actual sale price of the house, these things wouldnt be so hard to sell.  However, since the government needs money, they just keep the assessed value high and screw over the property holders.

What do they need money for?  To sustain government?  They are already asking people to move closer to downtown because they can't adequately sustain civil services.



Now what about a group buy of an area towards the outside of town?  Could we buy a section and un-incorporate from the city?  Then there are no more city taxes.  

 




Take a look at this gem of a building here.  The city taxes are $561.14 and the county tax is $5,344.99


If you knock down the extra houses, the tax assessed value would drop.  Its not a smart long term move, assuming you think Detroit will be a strong city again, but a novel idea.



 
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 1:05:20 PM EDT
[#48]
I worked down there for a couple of years.  Van Dyke behind City Airport.



We used to talk about this sort of thing all the time.  Put some money together and buy a city block.



Wall it off.  Gate.  Concertina wire on top.



It'd make a helluva compound.



Drive up and down Van Dyke just for the entertainment value.....
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 4:35:25 PM EDT
[#49]



Quoted:


Good God.  



So, someone tell me again WHY Detroit is such a shithole?
Because it's been run by democrats for 50 years.

Because it's been run by the same democrats who now control the executive and legislative branches of the govt.

Because it's been run by the same democrats who have a plan for America.

Because it's run by democrats.



But that's just my humble opinion.



 
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 4:39:05 PM EDT
[#50]





Quoted:



Buy the property cheap.





Get together with all of the other investors and file a class action lawsuit against the apprasial district.





People file suit over property valuations all the time. The government doesn't have a leg to stand on if those are the highest price an a property will go for at auction.



Detroit is not like the rest of the country.

 






Look at the mayor who did jail time, and landed a cushy job in TX for some software firm.







The last 100 people with connections are bailing, and taking as much .gov money with them as possible, in my humble opinion.

 
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