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Link Posted: 7/24/2017 12:21:04 PM EDT
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I think the story is going to be a significant improvement.
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You guys are suggesting that D1's Y1 campaign had a story.
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 12:35:18 PM EDT
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You guys are suggesting that D1's Y1 campaign had a story.
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I'd tell you all about D1's story, but I don't have time to explain.
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 1:16:04 PM EDT
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You guys are suggesting that D1's Y1 campaign had a story.
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It can't be any worse right?
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 3:16:54 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/24/2017 3:44:20 PM EDT
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I know someone that apparently took some time and read a lot of the grimoire cards trying to get the story.  She's convinced that the guardians are the bad guys.
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 3:47:41 PM EDT
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I know someone that apparently took some time and read a lot of the grimoire cards trying to get the story.  She's convinced that the guardians are the bad guys.
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I read almost all of the grimoire cards and don't see how one could come to that conclusion legitimately.  It's similar to the people who argue that the Rebel Alliance is bad and the Empire is good in Star Wars.
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 3:58:52 PM EDT
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Quoted:Btw, if you hold both bumpers you'll still drop a bubble as well.
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I was wondering if there was still a bubble. Wouldn't be much of a defender without being able to share... although the Titan's walls are almost as good.

I'm still not sure I've got a full grasp of what the supers are doing. I haven't thrown a shield yet. With the Fist of Havoc... is there more than one way to do it? Seems like you can run around for a few seconds doing multiple slams or shoulder charges?
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 4:51:53 PM EDT
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Striker can charge or slam 3 times (total) during the duration of the super.  Sentinel can either bubble (only with Code of the Protector skill tree selected), block, charge, or throw.
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 6:17:55 PM EDT
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I was wondering if there was still a bubble. Wouldn't be much of a defender without being able to share... although the Titan's walls are almost as good.

I'm still not sure I've got a full grasp of what the supers are doing. I haven't thrown a shield yet. With the Fist of Havoc... is there more than one way to do it? Seems like you can run around for a few seconds doing multiple slams or shoulder charges?
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I know you can go all Captain America with the shield, but outside of bashing people with it like the VoG Relic, fuck if I know how to use it.  Bubble gives you armor of light inside it though.  Kinda wondering if Saint 14 will come back.

And you pretty much nailed it.  A roving fist of havoc now.
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 6:28:54 PM EDT
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I know you can go all Captain America with the shield, but outside of bashing people with it like the VoG Relic, fuck if I know how to use it.  Bubble gives you armor of light inside it though.  Kinda wondering if Saint 14 will come back.

And you pretty much nailed it.  A roving fist of havoc now.
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Makes it more of a Fist of Havoc and less of a Fist of Panic.
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 6:40:10 PM EDT
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Makes it more of a Fist of Havoc and less of a Fist of Panic.
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That just means my wife can fist of whatever off the edge of a map that much faster..
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 6:46:03 PM EDT
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Nope... 

Bad joke. 
Link Posted: 7/25/2017 1:50:44 AM EDT
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Destiny 2: Exploring Nessus' Lost Sectors, Public Events, and Adventures - IGN First
Link Posted: 7/25/2017 3:23:01 AM EDT
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Wow, I really like what I'm seeing. I still haven't preordered yet, but I'm itching to more and more.
Link Posted: 7/25/2017 9:35:28 AM EDT
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I played the story mission and strike on PS4 and really wasn't impressed. I only played as a hunter, and tried out both subclasses, but it left me underwhelmed. Maybe it was the weapons setup now. The scout rifle didn't feel like a scout, and I can't understand their thinking behind basically two primaries and a power weapon. I understand that this game isn't D1, but why try to fix what isn't broken? I haven't even preordered on xbox, and doubt I will, but after reading the few reviews on here and playing the short amount of time I did, I don't even think it'll be a day 1 buy for me.
Link Posted: 7/25/2017 10:00:42 AM EDT
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I actually really enjoy the 2 primaries. I get there reasoning to doing it as well. They want to make the game a bigger challenge. They  are trying to make us think as to what we use. I'm glad they are doing this over just making enemies bigger bullet sponges. They don't want us going in with a sleeper and ex machina and just melting everything in 10 seconds.  I didn't mind the scout rifles but I loved running hand cannon auto rifle setup. And this is a super limited weapon base who knows what all the perk rolls will be and what the weapon mods will be.
Link Posted: 7/25/2017 10:18:57 AM EDT
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I played the story mission and strike on PS4 and really wasn't impressed. I only played as a hunter, and tried out both subclasses, but it left me underwhelmed. Maybe it was the weapons setup now. The scout rifle didn't feel like a scout, and I can't understand their thinking behind basically two primaries and a power weapon. I understand that this game isn't D1, but why try to fix what isn't broken? I haven't even preordered on xbox, and doubt I will, but after reading the few reviews on here and playing the short amount of time I did, I don't even think it'll be a day 1 buy for me.
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The default hunter weapons sucked.  I got both of the pulse rifles from crucible, and they made a night-and-day difference for me.  In crucible I used the Nightshade pulse and Sunshot handcannon (never got a Minuet) with good results.  In the strike I used Nightshade with the arc scout rifle.  The scout rifle was meh, but it worked OK from a distance and when I ran out of ammo for the pulse rifle.

I thought the hunter would be awful in PvE since it doesn't bring any utility to the table like a titan shield, sentinel bubble, or warlock rift, but the dodge saved my neck more than once.  With triple jump and dodge I was able to bounce around staying alive to get revives when I was last man standing.  Still not as useful as a shield or healing rift, but I didn't feel as underpowered as I expected.
Link Posted: 7/25/2017 11:04:30 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/25/2017 11:47:49 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/25/2017 1:30:28 PM EDT
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We've only had the opening story mission and a strike to look at, but none of the changes I've seen really benefit PVE. The majority of people play PVE; seems to me like it would make sense to make sure the PVE experience is engaging and fun. 

The engaging part, I think we'll be good there with the story. 

The fun, I dunno about. Seems stupid to make a sniper rifle or shotgun take the same place as a rocket launcher or machine gun. Primary and energy weapons are stupid IMO, why not just use the elemental energy weapon for everything, especially for shielded enemies or elemental burns?  Two primaries are unnecessary and silly for PVE, and questionable in PVP. 

So basically as as opposed to min/max setups we have in D1, we're gonna end up using a ton of inefficient primary DPS to kill bosses by the looks of it. Yay. Can't wait.

eta - And while we haven't seen everything from the subclasses yet, there's no word whether nightstalker is gonna be available at launch, warlocks don't have Viking funeral/touch of flame anymore, there's no weapons of light, so apart from the warlock's empower rift, we get no damage increase or enemy debuff capability either. The weapons are shit, and we're weaker overall.  
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You saved me a lot of typing

Rumor is that they're trying to make Destiny PVP in to an esport, which is why they made the changes to weapon load outs.
Link Posted: 7/25/2017 1:51:07 PM EDT
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Guys, remember this one very important thing concerning the beta.

It's a months old build that we got to fool around with. (Mainly so bungie could test their hardware.)

I'm not defending bungo.. But for all we know, everything that we all collectively hate about the beta may have been changed/tweaked already.

Here's to hoping anyway..
Link Posted: 7/25/2017 2:05:09 PM EDT
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Guys, remember this one very important thing concerning the beta.

It's a months old build that we got to fool around with. (Mainly so bungie could test their hardware.)

I'm not defending bungo.. But for all we know, everything that we all collectively hate about the beta may have been changed/tweaked already.

Here's to hoping anyway..
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I'll reserve full judgment until the full game comes out but changing the direction of this game for Esports is a terrible idea. This game won people over for PVE play and PVE play still trumps PVP play significantly. They'd be making a huge mistake to cater so such a small limited group of people. Esports and Halo is why I stopped playing after H3.

Link Posted: 7/25/2017 2:26:54 PM EDT
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Clan mitigation goes live tomorrow. The founder of the clan will be able to move their clan officially over to D2 status.

Additionally, clan founders will now be able to select a new founder instead of them having to quit the clan in order for a new founder to be chosen.

The official D2 clan system will open up a week or so before release.

Lots of questions unanswered so far, but they should be answered tomorrow (like why do we have to move a clan over to D2 if it's a general Bungie clan that incorporates all games, what will happen if we play D1 as a clan but have migrated the clan to D2 already, or what's different with the D2 clan system?).
Link Posted: 7/25/2017 3:13:19 PM EDT
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Clan mitigation goes live tomorrow. The founder of the clan will be able to move their clan officially over to D2 status.

Additionally, clan founders will now be able to select a new founder instead of them having to quit the clan in order for a new founder to be chosen.

The official D2 clan system will open up a week or so before release.

Lots of questions unanswered so far, but they should be answered tomorrow (like why do we have to move a clan over to D2 if it's a general Bungie clan that incorporates all games, what will happen if we play D1 as a clan but have migrated the clan to D2 already, or what's different with the D2 clan system?).
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Quintin and I are both locked out of the clan, I believe.  So we were just going to let the current arf one die and make a new one for verified members.  Btw, since my schedule is open, I can take care of that tomorrow Quintin, unless you wanted it.

From what I understand this is a complete overhaul of the clan system, so it'll likely be a lot different/better.  The current system has been in place in pretty much the same way since Halo 2 or 3 if memory serves.
Link Posted: 7/25/2017 3:14:41 PM EDT
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Quintin and I are both locked out of the clan, I believe.  So we were just going to let the current arf one die and make a new one for verified members.  Btw, since my schedule is open, I can take care of that tomorrow Quintin, unless you wanted it.
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Clan mitigation goes live tomorrow. The founder of the clan will be able to move their clan officially over to D2 status.

Additionally, clan founders will now be able to select a new founder instead of them having to quit the clan in order for a new founder to be chosen.

The official D2 clan system will open up a week or so before release.

Lots of questions unanswered so far, but they should be answered tomorrow (like why do we have to move a clan over to D2 if it's a general Bungie clan that incorporates all games, what will happen if we play D1 as a clan but have migrated the clan to D2 already, or what's different with the D2 clan system?).
Quintin and I are both locked out of the clan, I believe.  So we were just going to let the current arf one die and make a new one for verified members.  Btw, since my schedule is open, I can take care of that tomorrow Quintin, unless you wanted it.
I'm under impression that the D1 clans won't die. If you want to make a new one you'll have to use a different name. That might be annoying.
Link Posted: 7/25/2017 3:20:51 PM EDT
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I'm under impression that the D1 clans won't die. If you want to make a new one you'll have to use a different name. That might be annoying.
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Clan mitigation goes live tomorrow. The founder of the clan will be able to move their clan officially over to D2 status.

Additionally, clan founders will now be able to select a new founder instead of them having to quit the clan in order for a new founder to be chosen.

The official D2 clan system will open up a week or so before release.

Lots of questions unanswered so far, but they should be answered tomorrow (like why do we have to move a clan over to D2 if it's a general Bungie clan that incorporates all games, what will happen if we play D1 as a clan but have migrated the clan to D2 already, or what's different with the D2 clan system?).
Quintin and I are both locked out of the clan, I believe.  So we were just going to let the current arf one die and make a new one for verified members.  Btw, since my schedule is open, I can take care of that tomorrow Quintin, unless you wanted it.
I'm under impression that the D1 clans won't die. If you want to make a new one you'll have to use a different name. That might be annoying.
Yeah, but we don't have access to the old one.  So we're kinda stuck.  I'll have to see what fits in the name box and makes sense.
Link Posted: 7/25/2017 3:21:16 PM EDT
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Destiny 2: Exploring the New Survival PVP Mode and Altar of Flame - IGN First

Destiny 2: 7 Minutes of Survival Gameplay on Altar of Flame - IGN First
Link Posted: 7/25/2017 4:43:28 PM EDT
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New Arfcom clan is half prepped.  Bungie delayed the migration until tomorrow though, so it's not active yet.  Btw, if I haven't gotten you added to the OP, please let me know.  Considering how we got a million requests to join and maxed out users, and had to kick people to let others join, we're making sure they're verified arfcommers this time.  They'll need to post in this thread, etc.  

That said, IF everyone agrees to it and there is a system to vouch for people, I would be okay with people inviting a limited amount of friends so long as they stay active players with the rest of the group.  That said, unless they are also an arfcommer, if we need the space, arf members will get priority.  

https://www.bungie.net/en/Clan/Detail/2049644

https://twitter.com/BungieHelp/status/889882935054274562
EDIT: Deej's Comment on the matter:
Hey, fellow Overlords! Clan housekeeping has been postponed one day, due to the extension of the Destiny 2 Beta. Tomorrow, I'll have more details on the blog, including a full suite of support documentation prepared by the kick-ass Player Support Specialist who linked me to this thread. Go test!
Link Posted: 7/25/2017 7:52:35 PM EDT
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The bigger appeal of Destiny for me is the open world, which looks like it'll be considerably larger than D1.

I love a good Scout rifle and the one in the Beta was seriously disappointing. But, it's a starter. I'm sure they'll be putting out some sweethearts.
Looking forward to the variations in the subclasses. I'll always run a Titan first and I like the Fist of Panic (LOL). I'm wondering what variations there will be... multiple FoH that pack a little less punch vs. one major one that melts everyone around you once, but maybe you have to be closer?

I like the multiple drop points. I always hated doing the open world stuff and starting in the same point all the time. I also always hated not having a map to guide around when on the planet. Hope they change that.
Link Posted: 7/25/2017 8:21:01 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/25/2017 9:34:31 PM EDT
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ws450r

I'll probably end up getting it, so count me in. Somebody has to carry you all during the raids
Link Posted: 7/25/2017 9:42:14 PM EDT
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I'll probably end up getting it, so count me in. Somebody has to carry you all during the raids
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I think Hammer is switching to PC, so there is going to be a severe decline of weirdly accented swearing followed by shotgun murder sprees in PVP. 
Link Posted: 7/25/2017 9:49:58 PM EDT
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I'll probably end up getting it, so count me in. Somebody has to carry you all during the raids
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I know you'll come around. And yes I'm ready to fit in that backpack you got. I know you're disappointed in the Hunter so far so I think you can run a Floof and I'll be the Hunter looking for the carry.
Link Posted: 7/25/2017 10:14:20 PM EDT
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I know you'll come around. And yes I'm ready to fit in that backpack you got. I know you're disappointed in the Hunter so far so I think you can run a Floof and I'll be the Hunter looking for the carry.
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You run three hunters again, I'll run 3 warlocks.
Link Posted: 7/26/2017 1:42:24 AM EDT
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I totally see them doing that.  Trying to get MLG or someone to pick up competitive Destiny.  Locked load outs, all modes are 4v4, scoreboard at the top of the screen showing everyone's status on both teams, established call outs for areas on the map, detailed kill feed info like who cast what super or who loaded what power weapon and where.  The Countdown game mode has competitive written all over, basically taking non-respawn game modes from other games and bringing them to Destiny.

That's cool and all, but there's a part of me that's screaming "NO."  Competitive PVP is a minority, IMO.  I can honestly say that should they focus more on the crucible and the competitive/e-sport thing at the cost of the PVE experience, I really don't see myself playing D2 all that much.  That just ain't me.  If I want to play competitive multiplayer, I'll go play other games that I think are already well established and do better at that kind of thing.
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Waaaay to much info to ingest, understand, and still move, ID enemies and shoot. Just my opinion.
Link Posted: 7/26/2017 12:23:10 PM EDT
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My username and gamertag are the same.
Link Posted: 7/26/2017 12:44:41 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/26/2017 2:38:01 PM EDT
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I personally think they are doing this because alot of the community has asked for it/ does it. They put locations to the map because hey every person who has been successful at trials does this. People have been asking for better after death info since year 1. They are trying to make PvP more competitive because at the end of the day that's what keeps the player base around. If I was happy with pvp I'd still be playing. I think you guys are speculating way to much into some stuff.
Link Posted: 7/26/2017 3:22:22 PM EDT
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Two three things:

-Clan functionality is live, so if you guys want to start joining, go for it.  I can't switch over from a group to a clan until I get more people in it apparently.
https://www.bungie.net/en/Clan/Forum/2049644
-More preorder bonuses as well.  The exotic is a preorder exclusive until Christmas or so btw.
-apparently we're going back to the Dust Palace on Mars


Destiny 2 - Bonus Kill Tracker Trailer

Destiny 2: Creating the Coldheart Exotic Trace Rifle - IGN First

Link Posted: 7/26/2017 3:31:37 PM EDT
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request to join sent xb1 user = dhoskins
Link Posted: 7/26/2017 6:49:09 PM EDT
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This isn't a Sony exclusive is it?
Does it matter who you pre-ordered through? I think I pre-ordered through Gamestop. Do I get all this?

Looks like the laser rifle (BBQ gun) from CoD:AW. I'm guessing instead of overheating and requiring a cool-down it freezes up and requires a defrosting?
Link Posted: 7/26/2017 6:58:37 PM EDT
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This isn't a Sony exclusive is it?
Does it matter who you pre-ordered through? I think I pre-ordered through Gamestop. Do I get all this?

Looks like the laser rifle (BBQ gun) from CoD:AW. I'm guessing instead of overheating and requiring a cool-down it freezes up and requires a defrosting?
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Nope.  Sony gets a sniper rifle called the Borealis that (from what I've seen) swaps energy output types when you manually reload instead of having to go into the menu for it.  So you can run a mag dry on solar, have it auto reload and stay solar, or manually reload and have it swap to void or arc.

Btw, I was wrong on the strike though.  PS4 exclusive is a Taken strike called Lake of Shadows.
Link Posted: 7/26/2017 6:59:23 PM EDT
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Btw, when you join the clan, remember you need to click that you want to join with your xbox live info.  Otherwise you're just in the group, but not the clan.
Link Posted: 7/26/2017 7:10:49 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/26/2017 7:21:37 PM EDT
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drok556-drok556
Link Posted: 7/26/2017 7:21:56 PM EDT
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More D2 stuff in case people don't want spoilers

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Link Posted: 7/26/2017 10:13:13 PM EDT
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Just clicked the button to convert us over from a group to a clan.  Now we wait.  Just remember to join the clan as well as the group (same link) otherwise Bungie will kick you next month automatically, and there's nothing I can do.

Btw, they added a new voiced character called the Iron Guard, voiced by Bob Carter.  No release dates on DLC but the first one is about Osiris, and the second is the Warminds.

-50+ cutscenes, including backstory for characters like Zavala, etc.
-live action trailer incoming
-Nessus alone (likely)is larger than the Dreadnought.  The explorable area in the beta is just the Cistern area.





Link Posted: 7/27/2017 1:04:46 AM EDT
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Btw, when you join the clan, remember you need to click that you want to join with your xbox live info.  Otherwise you're just in the group, but not the clan.
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 That removes us from the D1 ARFCOM XBL3 clan....
Link Posted: 7/27/2017 1:18:56 AM EDT
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Btw, when you join the clan, remember you need to click that you want to join with your xbox live info.  Otherwise you're just in the group, but not the clan.
 That removes us from the D1 ARFCOM XBL3 clan....
In order to take advantage of the in-game clan bonuses, you'll have to be in the D2 clan only.

They're getting rid of support for D1 clan stuff anyway.
Link Posted: 7/27/2017 1:49:12 AM EDT
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Ray nailed it.  You can only pick one, but since nobody has access to the current arfcom clan, it'll likely get wiped next month when Bungie does the transition.  Everyone will get kicked out at that point anyhow.

Edit:  Huh, Flashpoints will have a new level of gear.  White engrams for prestige level gear.  You have to do every hard mode flashpoint challenge to get it.

Edit 2:  Btw, release date got bumped to 09/06 now.
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