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Posted: 9/5/2010 9:27:01 PM EDT
This is informal fighting, by non-combat troops.


BAGHDAD — Days after the U.S. officially ended combat operations and touted Iraq's ability to defend itself, American troops found themselves battling heavily armed militants assaulting an Iraqi military headquarters in the center of Baghdad on Sunday. The fighting killed 12 people and wounded dozens.

It was the first exchange of fire involving U.S. troops in Baghdad since the Aug. 31 deadline for formally ending the combat mission, and it showed that American troops remaining in the country are still being drawn into the fighting.

The attack also made plain the kind of lapses in security that have left Iraqis wary of the U.S. drawdown and distrustful of the ability of Iraqi forces now taking up ultimate responsibility for protecting the country.

Sunday's hour-long assault was the second in as many weeks on the facility, the headquarters for the Iraqi Army's 11th Division, pointing to the failure of Iraqi forces to plug even the most obvious holes in their security.

Two of the four attackers even managed to fight their way inside the compound and were only killed after running out of ammunition and detonating explosives belts they were wearing.

The American troops who joined the fight and provided cover fire for Iraqi soldiers pursuing the attackers were based at the compound to train Iraqi forces, said U.S. military spokesman Lt. Col. Eric Bloom. Iraqi forces also requested help from U.S. helicopters, drones and explosives experts, he said. No American troops were hurt, Bloom said.

Under an agreement between the two countries, Iraq can still call on American forces to assist in combat and U.S. troops can defend themselves if attacked.

In Sunday's assault, six militants wearing explosives vests and matching track suits and armed with machine guns and hand grenades pulled up at a checkpoint with an explosives-laden car, said a senior Iraqi military intelligence official who was inside the building at the time.

The six assailants left the car and started shooting, killing a soldier at the checkpoint, he said. Guards at an observation tower returned fire, killing four militants, while two entered a building in the military compound.

Iraqi soldiers shot and killed a seventh attacker who was driving the vehicle, causing the car bomb to explode, the official said. The blast left behind a gaping crater in the ground.

The fighting came to an end after the two assailants who breached the compound ran out of bullets and detonated their explosives vests, the official said. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to reporters.

Two weeks earlier, an al-Qaida-linked suicide bomber waded into a crowd of hundreds of army recruits outside the building and detonated a blast that killed 61 people. That was the deadliest act of violence in Baghdad in months.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility for Sunday's attack.

Baghdad has been on high alert since President Barack Obama declared the official end to U.S. combat operations on Wednesday, setting up more checkpoints, intensifying searches of people and vehicles and handing out more guns and bullets to troops guarding the capital.

The number of U.S. troops has fallen from a high of 170,000 to just under 50,000 this August; all U.S. troops must be out of Iraq by 2012.

The remaining American soldiers have a noncombat role and mostly assist Iraqis in stabilizing the country. However, U.S. forces can still help Iraqi forces hunt down al-Qaida and other militants and can defend themselves or their bases against attacks.

Insurgents have intensified their strikes on Iraqi police and soldiers to mark the change in the U.S. mission.

Iraq's political instability now appears to be threatening the country's security. Six months after an inconclusive election, Iraq still has no new government. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, a Shiite, is struggling to keep his job after his political coalition came in a close second to a Sunni-backed alliance in the March 7 vote.

Associated Press writers Qassim Abdul-Zahra, Rebecca Santana and Hamid Ahmed contributed to this report.

Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.


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Link Posted: 9/5/2010 9:28:44 PM EDT
This will go on for years.

I feel bad for the soldiers still in country; It will be a garrison environment with the risk of death
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 9:45:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Renegade13B:
This will go on for years.

I feel bad for the soldiers still in country; It will be a garrison environment with the risk of death


Statistically still much safer than Mexico though.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 9:52:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bigstick61:
Originally Posted By Renegade13B:
This will go on for years.

I feel bad for the soldiers still in country; It will be a garrison environment with the risk of death


Statistically still much safer than Mexico though.

I'd rather live in Mexico than garrison Iraq. At least I'd have some fun.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 12:29:52 AM EDT
The scary part is after every Tom, Dick, and Barry in the government came out and said that all combat troops have pulled out of that sh-t hole and the US combat missions have stopped there are a ton of people who now beleive that. Lets not forget the 50k US troops still there and the 10's of thousands of quote civilian contractors/merc's still in country. Just more SMOKE and MISDIRECTION the political magic show continues.

Ain't nothing going to change in this country until.

1. presidential elections decided by popular vote.
2. term limits on congress and all the life long perks they get are revoked.
3. manditory retirement on the surpreme court at age 72 like everybody else.
4. NATIONAL SALES TAX TO REPLACE THE INCOME TAX SYSTEM.

Until those 4 things happen it's still going to be the Haves run the show while the Have Nots pay the toll. So get use to it.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 12:32:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2010 12:34:22 AM EDT by Dave_A]

Originally Posted By Dashammer:
The scary part is after every Tom, Dick, and Barry in the government came out and said that all combat troops have pulled out of that sh-t hole and the US combat missions have stopped there are a ton of people who now beleive that. Lets not forget the 50k US troops still there and the 10's of thousands of quote civilian contractors/merc's still in country. Just more SMOKE and MISDIRECTION the political magic show continues.

Ain't nothing going to change in this country until.

1. presidential elections decided by popular vote.
2. term limits on congress and all the life long perks they get are revoked.
3. manditory retirement on the surpreme court at age 72 like everybody else.
4. NATIONAL SALES TAX TO REPLACE THE INCOME TAX SYSTEM.

Until those 4 things happen it's still going to be the Haves run the show while the Have Nots pay the toll. So get use to it.

Bull.

Especially the 'popular vote' for President crap...

The 'scary' thing is that the US can't fight a SMALL war like Iraq, without a complete evaporation of political support if it's not over in time for a commercial break!
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 12:32:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2010 12:34:00 AM EDT by JustaGunNut]
Originally Posted By Renegade13B:
This will go on for years.

I feel bad for the soldiers still in country; It will be a garrison environment with the risk of death


yeah one or two years maybe.

And I thought the troops were still withdrawing under a plan approved by the Bush administration.

Link Posted: 9/6/2010 12:37:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By Dashammer:
The scary part is after every Tom, Dick, and Barry in the government came out and said that all combat troops have pulled out of that sh-t hole and the US combat missions have stopped there are a ton of people who now beleive that. Lets not forget the 50k US troops still there and the 10's of thousands of quote civilian contractors/merc's still in country. Just more SMOKE and MISDIRECTION the political magic show continues.

Ain't nothing going to change in this country until.

1. presidential elections decided by popular vote.
2. term limits on congress and all the life long perks they get are revoked.
3. manditory retirement on the surpreme court at age 72 like everybody else.
4. NATIONAL SALES TAX TO REPLACE THE INCOME TAX SYSTEM.

Until those 4 things happen it's still going to be the Haves run the show while the Have Nots pay the toll. So get use to it.

Bull.

Especially the 'popular vote' for President crap...

The 'scary' thing is that the US can't fight a SMALL war like Iraq, without a complete evaporation of political support if it's not over in time for a commercial break!
Agreed, that's the dumbest thing I've heard all day.

The last thing we need is three or four of the largest population centers (all left leaning) deciding who our president will be every election.

Link Posted: 9/6/2010 12:37:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dave_A:
The 'scary' thing is that the US can't fight a SMALL war like Iraq, without a complete evaporation of political support if it's not over in time for a commercial break!


We have the media to thank for that, honestly.

Link Posted: 9/6/2010 12:41:25 AM EDT
Originally Posted By CouncilOfDave:

Originally Posted By Dave_A:
The 'scary' thing is that the US can't fight a SMALL war like Iraq, without a complete evaporation of political support if it's not over in time for a commercial break!


We have the media to thank for that, honestly.



+1

What the news did was blatant propaganda, and it worked on alot of people.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 12:45:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dashammer:
The scary part is after every Tom, Dick, and Barry in the government came out and said that all combat troops have pulled out of that sh-t hole and the US combat missions have stopped there are a ton of people who now beleive that. Lets not forget the 50k US troops still there and the 10's of thousands of quote civilian contractors/merc's still in country. Just more SMOKE and MISDIRECTION the political magic show continues.

Ain't nothing going to change in this country until.

1. presidential elections decided by popular vote.
2. term limits on congress and all the life long perks they get are revoked.
3. manditory retirement on the surpreme court at age 72 like everybody else.
4. NATIONAL SALES TAX TO REPLACE THE INCOME TAX SYSTEM.

Until those 4 things happen it's still going to be the Haves run the show while the Have Nots pay the toll. So get use to it.


The fuck are you talking about dude?
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 12:50:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dashammer:
The scary part is after every Tom, Dick, and Barry in the government came out and said that all combat troops have pulled out of that sh-t hole and the US combat missions have stopped there are a ton of people who now beleive that. Lets not forget the 50k US troops still there and the 10's of thousands of quote civilian contractors/merc's still in country. Just more SMOKE and MISDIRECTION the political magic show continues.

Ain't nothing going to change in this country until.

1. presidential elections decided by popular vote.
2. term limits on congress and all the life long perks they get are revoked.
3. manditory retirement on the surpreme court at age 72 like everybody else.
4. NATIONAL SALES TAX TO REPLACE THE INCOME TAX SYSTEM.

Until those 4 things happen it's still going to be the Haves run the show while the Have Nots pay the toll. So get use to it.


Link Posted: 9/6/2010 1:05:32 AM EDT
Let's see the electorial college system is based on what. Population right, so the presidental elections are already being decided by the major population centers fools. One man one vote. I guess the other 3 changes where over your heads as well. Proves my point mindless sheep.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 1:24:49 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Dashammer:
Let's see the electorial college system is based on what. Population right, so the presidental elections are already being decided by the major population centers fools. One man one vote. I guess the other 3 changes where over your heads as well. Proves my point mindless sheep.


Tag and making popcorn to watch you get schooled.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 1:29:38 AM EDT
I don't think USD-C is happy with the news about USF engaging in the battle between AQ and IA. They aren't supposed to be doing that stuff anymore.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 1:37:47 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 1:39:23 AM EDT
Was it worth the oil?
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 1:41:29 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 44Punk:

Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By Dashammer:
The scary part is after every Tom, Dick, and Barry in the government came out and said that all combat troops have pulled out of that sh-t hole and the US combat missions have stopped there are a ton of people who now beleive that. Lets not forget the 50k US troops still there and the 10's of thousands of quote civilian contractors/merc's still in country. Just more SMOKE and MISDIRECTION the political magic show continues.

Ain't nothing going to change in this country until.

1. presidential elections decided by popular vote.
2. term limits on congress and all the life long perks they get are revoked.
3. manditory retirement on the surpreme court at age 72 like everybody else.
4. NATIONAL SALES TAX TO REPLACE THE INCOME TAX SYSTEM.

Until those 4 things happen it's still going to be the Haves run the show while the Have Nots pay the toll. So get use to it.

Bull.

Especially the 'popular vote' for President crap...

The 'scary' thing is that the US can't fight a SMALL war like Iraq, without a complete evaporation of political support if it's not over in time for a commercial break!
Agreed, that's the dumbest thing I've heard all day.

The last thing we need is three or four of the largest population centers (all left leaning) deciding who our president will be every election.



No, but what should happen is the EC should be changed - if you get 55% of the states popular vote, then you get 55% of the electoral votes. It's not right that nearly half the populations votes don't count because they live behind enemy lines (for both sides).
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 2:24:09 AM EDT
Once again proved my point. One man One vote. Waiting to be schooled.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 2:28:46 AM EDT
Originally Posted By delacrue:
Was it worth the oil?


Wha...wha....what?
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 3:03:35 AM EDT
Originally Posted By delacrue:
Was it worth the oil?


What oil?
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 3:04:13 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Dashammer:
Once again proved my point. One man One vote. Waiting to be schooled.


You're not bright enough to be schooled if you didn't understand the problem with that already.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 3:06:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By RikWriter:
Originally Posted By delacrue:
Was it worth the oil?


What oil?


Yeah where is our cheap gas?
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 3:56:55 AM EDT
Originally Posted By bigstick61:
Originally Posted By Renegade13B:
This will go on for years.

I feel bad for the soldiers still in country; It will be a garrison environment with the risk of death


Statistically still much safer than Mexico though.


Hell, it's also safer than South side of Chicago, South Central LA, or Southeast DC. Well, at least for Americans, that is.........

Hmmmmmm ......
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 4:02:05 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Renegade13B:
This will go on for years.

I feel bad for the soldiers still in country; It will be a garrison environment with the risk of death


You don't pay for and build one of the most expensive embassies for shits and giggles.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 4:09:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Dashammer:
The scary part is after every Tom, Dick, and Barry in the government came out and said that all combat troops have pulled out of that sh-t hole and the US combat missions have stopped there are a ton of people who now beleive that. Lets not forget the 50k US troops still there and the 10's of thousands of quote civilian contractors/merc's still in country. Just more SMOKE and MISDIRECTION the political magic show continues.

Ain't nothing going to change in this country until.

1. presidential elections decided by popular vote.
2. term limits on congress and all the life long perks they get are revoked.
3. manditory retirement on the surpreme court at age 72 like everybody else.
4. NATIONAL SALES TAX TO REPLACE THE INCOME TAX SYSTEM.

Until those 4 things happen it's still going to be the Haves run the show while the Have Nots pay the toll. So get use to it.


You want popular vote to decide the president? What type of drugs are you on?
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 4:14:46 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By Dashammer:
The scary part is after every Tom, Dick, and Barry in the government came out and said that all combat troops have pulled out of that sh-t hole and the US combat missions have stopped there are a ton of people who now beleive that. Lets not forget the 50k US troops still there and the 10's of thousands of quote civilian contractors/merc's still in country. Just more SMOKE and MISDIRECTION the political magic show continues.

Ain't nothing going to change in this country until.

1. presidential elections decided by popular vote.
2. term limits on congress and all the life long perks they get are revoked.
3. manditory retirement on the surpreme court at age 72 like everybody else.
4. NATIONAL SALES TAX TO REPLACE THE INCOME TAX SYSTEM.

Until those 4 things happen it's still going to be the Haves run the show while the Have Nots pay the toll. So get use to it.

Bull.

Especially the 'popular vote' for President crap...

The 'scary' thing is that the US can't fight a SMALL war like Iraq, without a complete evaporation of political support if it's not over in time for a commercial break!


Popular vote would fuck groups like gun owners. This was understood by the founders and is the very reason for the Electoral College.

Ah hell, I am agreeing w/ Dave_A......
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 4:17:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Dashammer:
Let's see the electorial college system is based on what. Population right, so the presidental elections are already being decided by the major population centers fools. One man one vote. I guess the other 3 changes where over your heads as well. Proves my point mindless sheep.


You're not very well educated in USA political science and history are you?

BTW - You are going to get your National Sales Tax. The only problem is they won't be replacing the Income Tax, they will be sticking you with both.

Link Posted: 9/6/2010 4:25:41 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Dashammer:
Let's see the electorial college system is based on what. Population right, so the presidental elections are already being decided by the major population centers fools. One man one vote. I guess the other 3 changes where over your heads as well. Proves my point mindless sheep.


Well, to address the mandatory retirement of Supreme Court justices, how would that help? Scalia is 74 so he would be out. It would be a zero sum game. You'd have as many conservatives as liberals who would have mandatory retirement. It would change nothing.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 4:30:32 AM EDT
Originally Posted By RikWriter:
Originally Posted By delacrue:
Was it worth the oil?


What oil?


You know, the oil that the U.S. is pumping out of Iraq into large storage tanks under Area 51.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 4:45:08 AM EDT
OK then school me smart guys. Why was the electorial college established in the first case. I know do you. O by the way I have a MA histroy fool what level of education do you have.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 4:49:00 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Dashammer:
OK then school me smart guys. Why was the electorial college established in the first case. I know do you. O by the way I have a MA histroy fool what level of education do you have.


Anyone can be anything they want on the intrawebs! Just sayin.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 4:59:31 AM EDT
Originally Posted By C-4:
Originally Posted By RikWriter:
Originally Posted By delacrue:
Was it worth the oil?


What oil?


You know, the oil that the U.S. is pumping out of Iraq into large storage tanks under Area 51.


Shhhhhhhhh!
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 5:30:26 AM EDT
The problem with the popular vote is that the population of Illinois is actually 100 million, so that state would decide every election.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 5:55:26 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Dashammer:
OK then school me smart guys. Why was the electorial college established in the first case. I know do you. O by the way I have a MA histroy fool what level of education do you have.


Wow...I never got my masters, just a BA in history, yet I still know more than you about our country's political system. Your post-bac school musta been pretty sucky.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 6:11:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2010 6:19:52 AM EDT by RDak]
Originally Posted By Dashammer:
The scary part is after every Tom, Dick, and Barry in the government came out and said that all combat troops have pulled out of that sh-t hole and the US combat missions have stopped there are a ton of people who now beleive that. Lets not forget the 50k US troops still there and the 10's of thousands of quote civilian contractors/merc's still in country. Just more SMOKE and MISDIRECTION the political magic show continues.

Ain't nothing going to change in this country until.

1. presidential elections decided by popular vote.
2. term limits on congress and all the life long perks they get are revoked.
3. manditory retirement on the surpreme court at age 72 like everybody else.
4. NATIONAL SALES TAX TO REPLACE THE INCOME TAX SYSTEM.

Until those 4 things happen it's still going to be the Haves run the show while the Have Nots pay the toll. So get use to it.


I don't know, it seems like the have nots have been on a good run since November, 2008.

Also, with a National Sales Tax system, wouldn't the have nots pay more than under the current system where they pay no income tax?

Link Posted: 9/6/2010 6:13:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2010 6:16:44 AM EDT by RDak]
Originally Posted By Dashammer:
Once again proved my point. One man One vote. Waiting to be schooled.


So do you have a problem with each State having two Senators regardless of population? I have no problem with that. It helps to keep State's "rights" and "interests" intact.

Same for the electoral college IMHO. (Although, since I am a right winger, the electoral college does benefit me more than a libtard. I will admit to that.)

I can clearly see why the libtards would want to abolish the electoral college.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:08:23 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Dashammer:
Let's see the electorial college system is based on what. Population right, so the presidental elections are already being decided by the major population centers fools. One man one vote. I guess the other 3 changes where over your heads as well. Proves my point mindless sheep.


You realize that sales taxes hurt the poor far more than the rich and by poor I include the middle class. The rich in this country spend far less of their income than the poor, so a sales tax instead of income tax benefits the rich.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:11:29 AM EDT
Originally Posted By delacrue:
Was it worth the oil?


What oil? we didn't go into Iraq for oil, we don't get free, discounted, or even first shot at Iraq's oil so try researching these things before spouting off your garbage and proving to all of us your ignorance.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:16:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2010 7:17:50 AM EDT by scottedward58]
Originally Posted By Dashammer:
OK then school me smart guys. Why was the electorial college established in the first case. I know do you. O by the way I have a MA histroy fool what level of education do you have.


I find that very hard to believe, just from your writing style I'd put you as nothing more than a high school graduate and a sub par one at that.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:23:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2010 7:27:01 AM EDT by FightingHellfish]
Originally Posted By Dashammer:
OK then school me smart guys. Why was the electorial college established in the first case. I know do you. O by the way I have a MA histroy fool what level of education do you have.


OK, then school me, smart guys. Why was the Electoral College established in the first place? I know, do you? Oh, by the way, I have an MA in History. What level of education do you have? (Repaired to be understandable.)

C'mon, really? History students write a lot of papers. Papers that include grammar, spelling and punctuation. Your posts don't read like content written by a historian, sorry.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 9:21:57 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Dashammer:
The scary part is after every Tom, Dick, and Barry in the government came out and said that all combat troops have pulled out of that sh-t hole and the US combat missions have stopped there are a ton of people who now beleive that. Lets not forget the 50k US troops still there and the 10's of thousands of quote civilian contractors/merc's still in country. Just more SMOKE and MISDIRECTION the political magic show continues.

Ain't nothing going to change in this country until.

1. presidential elections decided by popular vote.
2. term limits on congress and all the life long perks they get are revoked.
3. manditory retirement on the surpreme court at age 72 like everybody else.
4. NATIONAL SALES TAX TO REPLACE THE INCOME TAX SYSTEM.

Until those 4 things happen it's still going to be the Haves run the show while the Have Nots pay the toll. So get use to it.


It's all about the oil in the REGION. Do you think we built the largest US embassy in the world to keep diplomats comfortable? That place was built for the internatinal corporations looking to or doing business in Iraq and eventually the region.

I bet McDonalds has got an office in that place

Link Posted: 9/6/2010 9:28:26 AM EDT
Originally Posted By RikWriter:
Originally Posted By delacrue:
Was it worth the oil?


What oil?


The oil being controlled by BIG OIL.

Only morons think the allegations that the US invaded Iraq to secure oil for the US. It was to secure the country so BIG OIL could control Iraqs oil, and have more control over the world market.

They killed SH because he was selling oil on the black market prior to the invasion, and keeping prices of oil suppressed.

Link Posted: 9/6/2010 9:29:46 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Dashammer:
OK then school me smart guys. Why was the electorial college established in the first case. I know do you. O by the way I have a MA histroy fool what level of education do you have.


Ohhh, a masters.

Color ME impressed.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 9:32:23 AM EDT
Originally Posted By scottedward58:
Originally Posted By delacrue:
Was it worth the oil?


What oil? we didn't go into Iraq for oil, we don't get free, discounted, or even first shot at Iraq's oil so try researching these things before spouting off your garbage and proving to all of us your ignorance.


It is you that needs to do the research. Listening to Limpjaw and Hannity aint gonna do it.

BIG OIL controls Iraqs oil now.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 9:34:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dashammer:
OK then school me smart guys. Why was the electorial college established in the first case. I know do you. O by the way I have a MA histroy fool what level of education do you have.

High enough to realize that you border on illiteracy.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 9:41:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2010 9:44:26 AM EDT by Lester_Burnham]
Originally Posted By delacrue:
Was it worth the oil?


man I hope so, 4% in 2007. our government is so incompetent, they should have come up with a 9-11 conspiracy that Canada did it, if it was really about oil.

Link Posted: 9/6/2010 9:42:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2010 9:47:29 AM EDT by Citadel-SC]
Originally Posted By GixxerJoe:
Originally Posted By RikWriter:
Originally Posted By delacrue:
Was it worth the oil?


What oil?


Yeah where is our cheap gas?


Insult to injury. What a waste of American lives and money for Bush and company's masturbatory war. The height of hubris and incompetence - PNAC making the World safe for Democracy.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 9:53:30 AM EDT
Sucks to be the guys still left in Iraq.

Look the Iraqis are just going to have to learn a few lessons the hard way I'm afraid. Hey, you can teach someone and teach them for years, but experience is the best teacher of all and sometimes it takes the school of hard knocks to really educate.

May just take a few times for Iraq military bases to witness some serious slaughter before they wake up to the fact that they better start acting like soldiers if they want to live, because the US isn't going to be there to save their lazy asses every time.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 9:56:50 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ORIGINAL-Waterdog:
Originally Posted By RikWriter:
Originally Posted By delacrue:
Was it worth the oil?


What oil?


The oil being controlled by BIG OIL.

Only morons think the allegations that the US invaded Iraq to secure oil for the US. It was to secure the country so BIG OIL could control Iraqs oil, and have more control over the world market.

They killed SH because he was selling oil on the black market prior to the invasion, and keeping prices of oil suppressed.



Uh yeah...sure thing man. Whatever you say...

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Link Posted: 9/6/2010 9:58:48 AM EDT
Obama is Billy Jacking us.
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