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8/5/2010 12:41:04 PM EDT
Delete.  I shouldn't post while angry, and frustrated.
8/5/2010 12:43:30 PM EDT
[#1]
Not until the author figured out apostrophes.
On second thought, just no.



8/5/2010 12:47:18 PM EDT
[#2]
Too much hinges on what the 'Communist Party' holds as its platform or goals.  What if they decide to Support the right of the 'proletariat to keep and bear arms' or some such.  Then we would all be screwed.





I think you have to define the evil policies, positions, or agenda, rather than give the 'Communist Party' that much power to decide or define what is treason for everyone else.
-K
8/5/2010 1:03:10 PM EDT
[#3]
Sounds like thought crime to me.  I have no problem with American Communists since they represent a failed and insipid socio-economic policy that no one in their right mind even pretends to aspire to.  Kids will soon discover they won't get laid by being Communists and chicks dig guys with expensive cars.
8/5/2010 1:05:02 PM EDT
[#4]





Quoted:



Sounds like thought crime to me.  I have no problem with Communists since they represent a failed and insipid socio-economic policy that no one in their right mind even pretends to aspire to.

I'm no fan of 'thought crimes', but there are a whole lot of people who aspire to Communism/Socialism.  Have you taken a look at Washington in the last, oh I don't know, year and a half or so?
-K





 
8/5/2010 1:18:21 PM EDT
[#5]
ghey
8/5/2010 1:32:35 PM EDT
[#6]
Hell Naw! There is no law and there should be no law governing thought nor political affiliation. I suggest you read up on some history and learn who in the past has tried to control such things. Here's your hint, most were leftest dictators associated with a party that begins with a c and ends with ommunist.

I believe you are now guilty of treason, comrade. Your execution date has been scheduled for next tuesday.
8/5/2010 8:28:57 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Hell Naw! There is no law and there should be no law governing thought nor political affiliation. I suggest you read up on some history and learn who in the past has tried to control such things. Here's your hint, most were leftest dictators associated with a party that begins with a c and ends with ommunist.

I believe you are now guilty of treason, comrade. Your execution date has been scheduled for next tuesday.


I think we can all agree that the very notion of communism is completely antithetical to a free society, and our Constitution, and that communists go out of there way to damage there own country, even to the point of providing aid, and comfort to our enemies, even if that aid is merely in the form of the seditious speech of the media that would seem to me to be treasonous even under existing law.  I just think it would be nice to give them a dose of there own medicine, maybe make the punishment being deported to north korea.  We need another Joe Mccarthy.  We loose more, and more freedom every day, it needs to stop, I'm just getting frustrated.
8/5/2010 8:31:18 PM EDT
[#8]
better to just not elect them.
8/5/2010 8:32:38 PM EDT
[#9]
The constitution should not be a living document IMO,Also you missed an N in the thread title.
8/5/2010 8:32:44 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Too much hinges on what the 'Communist Party' holds as its platform or goals.  What if they decide to Support the right of the 'proletariat to keep and bear arms' or some such.  Then we would all be screwed.


I think you have to define the evil policies, positions, or agenda, rather than give the 'Communist Party' that much power to decide or define what is treason for everyone else.





-K


I changed it to the platform it held on December 25th, 1991, I chose that date, because I thought it would be ironic to use the date the soviet Union fell to define there failed system.
8/5/2010 8:34:16 PM EDT
[#11]
The only amendments we need are the following;



1) The interstate Commerce Clause is only to be used by the .Fed to settle squabbles between individual states, and is not to be used to enact laws on the states in general....this already exists as the intent, it just needs to be reaffirmed as such.



and...



2) The federal government may not use tax dollars for any purpose other than to fund the powers enumerated to the congress in the 10th Amendment....again, this already exists, it just needs to be reaffirmed as such.
8/5/2010 8:35:23 PM EDT
[#12]
It should be enforced as it was written.

repeal all amendments made after 1799
8/5/2010 8:40:26 PM EDT
[#13]
I voted no and haven't even read the question. It doesn't matter - the Constitution is not a document that needs editing.

-JC
8/5/2010 8:44:49 PM EDT
[#14]
No, being a communist is not (and shouldn't be) a crime. Punishing people for their ideology is about the most unAmarican act that I can think of.
8/5/2010 8:46:54 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
When we kick the commies out, assuming they leave it occurred to me that it would be a good idea to keep them out permanently, so I came up with this, Amend the Definition of Treason in Article 3 Section 3 from:

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted."

To:

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort, or being a current, or former member of the communist party, or any other party by any name who's stated policy's, positions, or Agenda are substantively the same as that of the communist party,as it existed on December 25th, 1991, or by personally advocating the same, or substantively the same policy's or agenda as the communist party, as it existed on December 25th, 1991, or who willfully violates any provisions of this constitution, or the amendments of the same, when a reasonable person would conclude that such actions would violate this constitution, or the amendments of the same. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or the finding of a violation by two thirds of the House of Representative, and the Senate after a formal inquiry into the alleged act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted."


I'd like to outlaw ideas as stupid as this, but thats just as un-american as the OP.
8/5/2010 8:47:03 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
The constitution should not be a living document IMO,Also you missed an N in the thread title.


Do you mean that the Constitution should not be changed? The concept of a living document is very different than an unchanged document.

The Consitution provides for its own modification within the text; it is the right of The People to do so.

If I misunderstood your intent, I apolgize in advance.


8/5/2010 8:52:59 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
The constitution should not be a living document IMO,Also you missed an N in the thread title.


Do you mean that the Constitution should not be changed? The concept of a living document is very different than an unchanged document.

The Consitution provides for its own modification within the text; it is the right of The People to do so.

If I misunderstood your intent, I apolgize in advance.




I agree,but when has the text in red meant jack shit in our lifetime?Just sayin.
8/5/2010 8:55:53 PM EDT
[#18]
nope everyone has the right to free speech. Opening that door can lead to it being used on us.



Id rather we just clarify "general welfare" and "interstate commerce" so the federal government can't use them to create communism in the first place.
8/5/2010 8:59:04 PM EDT
[#19]
Not really. I can see what you are getting at, I think; but there is just too much confusion & room to sway written here...
8/5/2010 9:05:37 PM EDT
[#20]
You had to have known this was a bad idea before you posted it.  



Oh well, things will be as they will be.
8/5/2010 9:12:53 PM EDT
[#21]
Not only no but hell no.
8/5/2010 9:14:43 PM EDT
[#22]
Hell to the fuckin no. Just because you dont agree with a particular belief system doesnt mean that people should be put to death for believing in it.
8/5/2010 9:15:46 PM EDT
[#23]
OP, that is every bit as worthless and despicable as the people you're trying to outlaw.  Consider on your own how that reflects on you.

Ignored.  

Have a shitty life.  
8/5/2010 9:18:09 PM EDT
[#24]
So basically you want to purge your political enemies.  Comrade Stalin would be proud.
8/5/2010 9:20:28 PM EDT
[#25]
I think you would have to take care of a few of those other pesky amendments first.
8/5/2010 9:23:28 PM EDT
[#26]
Where is McCarthy when you need him?
8/5/2010 9:28:33 PM EDT
[#27]
Too many ambiguities.  Parties can change their platforms, explain it away in different ways, and your use of the word "reasonable" is subject to interpretation.



Plus, you do NOT want to open the can-o-worms that would be a constitutional convention.
8/5/2010 9:30:50 PM EDT
[#28]
No, I would not. And I'm too lazy to explain why, but it should seem obvious to most reasonable people, so I'll leave it at that.
8/5/2010 9:32:13 PM EDT
[#29]
Wouldn't fly, as unhappy I am about the commies it infringes on their rights as Americans.
8/5/2010 9:37:09 PM EDT
[#30]
I have nothing to add to what's already been said. Except to say your comprehension of what the Framers had in mind with the First Amendment, is at best suspect and at worst, totalitarian.
8/5/2010 9:37:40 PM EDT
[#31]
The price of freedom is that sometimes, people do things that you don't like.
8/5/2010 9:44:49 PM EDT
[#32]
The current one is fine, it just needs to be enforced.
Say, we are at war with Islamic terrorists, and there are quite a few terrorist organizations and State sponsors of terrorism on the list, as well as fast growing home made Islamic terrorists. We also have a significant large number of people who have been known to aid and support those terrorist organizations and States, but none has been charged with treason.


8/5/2010 10:55:23 PM EDT
[#33]
IBTL
8/5/2010 10:56:37 PM EDT
[#34]
No more amendments for me thanks
8/5/2010 11:11:50 PM EDT
[#35]



Quoted:


Delete.  I shouldn't post while angry, and frustrated.


direct that at your nearest moderate tomorrow and win the debate. If everyone did that the liberals would never win ann election.