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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:25:09 AM EDT
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So, suspension of the fourth amendment is ok, as long as its a "training excercise?"
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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:25:51 AM EDT
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I am ok with this.
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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:27:11 AM EDT
[#3]
so what happens if you refuse to show ID during training?
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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:27:24 AM EDT
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Looking for illegals? Registering them to vote?
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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:28:16 AM EDT
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there check?
Please fire that reporter and his editor. |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:29:05 AM EDT
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so what happens if you refuse to show ID during training? I'm wondering that as well. I guess they just assume (correctly, unfortunately) that the sheep coming to the SS office to suckle from the government teat will just comply without hesitation. |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:29:15 AM EDT
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What? Poor people on social security have ID cards?
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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:30:15 AM EDT
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"I thought someone was upset about not getting there check," said Laura Kelly, who took a friend to the office on Tuesday. OH damn. I've caught a case of the nazi. |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:30:15 AM EDT
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I wonder what kind of realistic training they got by targeting an office in that particular area? That would have been a milk run.
Note to self: Write letter to DHS asking them kick off an "Exercise" in Southern California one of these mornings. They better get there around 5:30am, that is when the line usually starts filling up outside. 
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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:35:58 AM EDT
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Sharp looking JBT outfits.
Did they all go AirSofting after the 'exercise'? |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:38:50 AM EDT
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Fyi... Title 41 of the CFR states that all persons entering a federal facility may be subject to search or required to provide id.
The CFR is posted in the entry of all federal buildings. I guess if you don't like that, use the phone. :/ What do you think happens when they goto the SSA window? They have to provide proof of id for privacy reasons. |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:41:10 AM EDT
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The government can demand proof of ID to enter the Social Security office, but demanding positive ID of prospective voters is discrimination?
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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:45:07 AM EDT
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Fyi... Title 41 of the CFR states that all persons entering a federal facility may be subject to search or required to provide id. The CFR is posted in the entry of all federal buildings. I guess if you don't like that, use the phone. :/ What do you think happens when they goto the SSA window? They have to provide proof of id for privacy reasons. It's not a big leap, then, for their next "training excercise" to be at a post office. Maybe they could start a new program, have regular checkpoints at post offices, to keep their agents trained up.
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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:48:38 AM EDT
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Did they catch any illegals applying for a Social Security card?
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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:49:30 AM EDT
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The government can demand proof of ID to enter the Social Security office, but demanding positive ID of prospective voters is discrimination? |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:51:20 AM EDT
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so what happens if you refuse to show ID during training? They train you how to have your ID for when shit gets real 
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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:51:49 AM EDT
[#17]
papers please......
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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:52:36 AM EDT
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Fyi... Title 41 of the CFR states that all persons entering a federal facility may be subject to search or required to provide id. The CFR is posted in the entry of all federal buildings. I guess if you don't like that, use the phone. :/ What do you think happens when they goto the SSA window? They have to provide proof of id for privacy reasons. OK. What happens if I approach, they demand ID, and I just turn around and come back the next day when the goon squad is gone? I could not pointlessly piss this much money away if I had a nuclear-powered incinerator and a railroad full of Benjamins. |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:53:27 AM EDT
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Fyi... Title 41 of the CFR states that all persons entering a federal facility may be subject to search or required to provide id. The CFR is posted in the entry of all federal buildings. I guess if you don't like that, use the phone. :/ What do you think happens when they goto the SSA window? They have to provide proof of id for privacy reasons. It's not a big leap, then, for their next "training excercise" to be at a post office. Maybe they could start a new program, have regular checkpoints at post offices, to keep their agents trained up. post office isn't a federal building 
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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:55:00 AM EDT
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So, suspension of the fourth amendment is ok, as long as its a "training excercise?" What part of the 4th Amendment protects the right to get a check from the gov't without producing ID? |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:56:02 AM EDT
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FPS, it was all I could do to contain my contempt for the douchebags we reported to during my time in New Orleans. Arrrggggghhhh.... |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:56:04 AM EDT
[#22]
The Border Patrol should be checking IDs at the SS office.
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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:58:16 AM EDT
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Fyi... Title 41 of the CFR states that all persons entering a federal facility may be subject to search or required to provide id. The CFR is posted in the entry of all federal buildings. I guess if you don't like that, use the phone. :/ What do you think happens when they goto the SSA window? They have to provide proof of id for privacy reasons. OK. What happens if I approach, they demand ID, and I just turn around and come back the next day when the goon squad is gone? I could not pointlessly piss this much money away if I had a nuclear-powered incinerator and a railroad full of Benjamins. Nothing. You would return, where a contact security officer would check any bags/packages for weapons, you would go to the ssa window and SHE would check your id. Not a big deal. Or IS it! Dum dum dummmmm. |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 10:07:16 AM EDT
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Fyi... Title 41 of the CFR states that all persons entering a federal facility may be subject to search or required to provide id. The CFR is posted in the entry of all federal buildings. I guess if you don't like that, use the phone. :/ What do you think happens when they goto the SSA window? They have to provide proof of id for privacy reasons. It's not a big leap, then, for their next "training excercise" to be at a post office. Maybe they could start a new program, have regular checkpoints at post offices, to keep their agents trained up. post office isn't a federal building It sure has a whole lot of signs that cite federal statutes, and a big old title of its own in the CFR covering property owned/leased by the USPS, for not being a federal building. And there sure are some examples out there of people - including USPS employees - getting convicted for carrying guns there or even having them in their cars on postal property. |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 10:11:07 AM EDT
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Fyi... Title 41 of the CFR states that all persons entering a federal facility may be subject to search or required to provide id. The CFR is posted in the entry of all federal buildings. I guess if you don't like that, use the phone. :/ What do you think happens when they goto the SSA window? They have to provide proof of id for privacy reasons. OK. What happens if I approach, they demand ID, and I just turn around and come back the next day when the goon squad is gone? I could not pointlessly piss this much money away if I had a nuclear-powered incinerator and a railroad full of Benjamins. Lol. All I can do is laugh now. |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 10:11:10 AM EDT
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so what happens if you refuse to show ID during training? I am assuming you get "training" in the federal legal system. |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 10:36:36 AM EDT
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so what happens if you refuse to show ID during training? I am assuming you get "training" in the federal legal system. Yes, actually. It takes place in the FEMA concentration camp under Denver Intl Airport, where they make you shout "four more years", and "just say no to wolverines!"
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Posted: 1/5/2012 10:40:23 AM EDT
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Did they catch any illegals with a Social Security card? Fixed it for you. |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 10:43:50 AM EDT
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I could not pointlessly piss this much money away if I had a nuclear-powered incinerator and a railroad full of Benjamins. Truth right here. .gov never met a program they didn't like. Nice public display of force BTW. Maybe they were practicing their response to a bomb threat made by right wing, white, Christian militants like those dangerous Sipsey Street guys.. |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 10:44:53 AM EDT
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An old friend who used to be on the SWAT team told me they periodically trained with Army guys here in KC. They would all be in civvies and go here and there lurking and preying for a few days.
I forgot to ask him if they were practicing arrests or assassinations.  |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 10:45:17 AM EDT
[#31]
I'd be rather vocal in my contempt of them.
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Posted: 1/5/2012 10:53:24 AM EDT
[#32]
More prisoner training for citizens.
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Posted: 1/5/2012 10:56:41 AM EDT
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there check? Please fire that reporter and his editor. I'm wondering if they'll post my comment. Probably not however since I named myself Someone who knows the difference in "they're", "there", and "their" Still... Seriously? That made it by the editor? |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 10:58:37 AM EDT
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When hyper inflation stabs the poor getting checks, the SSA will be a mad house.
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Posted: 1/5/2012 11:02:49 AM EDT
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They should do that at the Glendale, CA office. It would scare the hell out of the Armenian mafia wannabes and Messican illegals.
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Posted: 1/5/2012 11:11:21 AM EDT
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The Border Patrol should be checking IDs at the SS office. How about at the border. |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 11:14:33 AM EDT
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When hyper inflation stabs the poor getting checks, the SSA will be a mad house. That at least explains the drill involving plate carriers and M4s. |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 11:16:32 AM EDT
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Why do this in only one place? Any reports of it happening in other places.
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Posted: 1/5/2012 11:18:58 AM EDT
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I had occasion to visit a SSA office a couple months ago.I had to return to my truck and leave my pocket knife there.
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Posted: 1/5/2012 11:24:45 AM EDT
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so what happens if you refuse to show ID during training? Don't waste the chance. Give 'em a false ID and get a free trip to Mexico.
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Posted: 1/5/2012 4:06:54 PM EDT
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The Border Patrol should be checking IDs at the SS office. How about at the border. That too. How about the BP closes the Border and INS can check ID's at the SS office. |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 4:31:28 PM EDT
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My money at work. Things like this make unemployment seem like a decent option. At least if you are unemployed you aren't paying as much for stuff like this.
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Posted: 1/5/2012 4:34:07 PM EDT
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Quoted: So, suspension of the fourth amendment is ok, as long as its a "training excercise?" Huh? SS offices are often in federal buildings with the court and you sure need ID to get past the guards there |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 4:34:37 PM EDT
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Quoted: Huh?Quoted: Quoted: Fyi... Title 41 of the CFR states that all persons entering a federal facility may be subject to search or required to provide id. The CFR is posted in the entry of all federal buildings. I guess if you don't like that, use the phone. :/ What do you think happens when they goto the SSA window? They have to provide proof of id for privacy reasons. It's not a big leap, then, for their next "training excercise" to be at a post office. Maybe they could start a new program, have regular checkpoints at post offices, to keep their agents trained up. post office isn't a federal building |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 4:36:32 PM EDT
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Quoted: I had occasion to visit a SSA office a couple months ago.I had to return to my truck and leave my pocket knife there. They wouldn't give you a ticket and hold it while you went in? That's kind of prickish. I took a stapler in once and boy were they pissed about that. "What do you have this for?" "To Staple" "What are you planning to staple?"
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Posted: 1/5/2012 4:37:51 PM EDT
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Wonder how folks would feel if they DHS set up check points in front of gun shops?
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Posted: 1/5/2012 4:38:52 PM EDT
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Fyi... Title 41 of the CFR states that all persons entering a federal facility may be subject to search or required to provide id. The CFR is posted in the entry of all federal buildings. I guess if you don't like that, use the phone. :/ What do you think happens when they goto the SSA window? They have to provide proof of id for privacy reasons. Oh, the 4th amendment doesn't apply at Federal Buildings. Check. |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 4:42:59 PM EDT
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I'll bet money that everyone of them took an oath to protect the Constitution. If you think that LEO of any type 'will do the right thing' during a SHTF situation, sad to say, 'don't think so'. You, Citizen are on your own. Good luck.
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Posted: 1/5/2012 4:44:45 PM EDT
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So, suspension of the fourth amendment is ok, as long as its a "training excercise?" Right. If you say training, joint training, or terror, then anything one might dream up is green lighted. It's the 'fuck you and the constitution you rode in on' amendment. Good thing Ron Paul has nothing coming. His foreign policy was a mother fucker. |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 4:48:49 PM EDT
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I had occasion to visit a SSA office a couple months ago.I had to return to my truck and leave my pocket knife there. They wouldn't give you a ticket and hold it while you went in? That's kind of prickish. I took a stapler in once and boy were they pissed about that. "What do you have this for?" "To Staple" "What are you planning to staple?"
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