DCM vs. Private purchase of M1

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Posted: 9/1/2004 10:57:20 AM EDT

All things being equal (price and quality) are there advantages to purchasing an M1 from the DCM vs. purchasing from a private party? The private party purchase would be... well, private. I would also be able to inspect the weapon, etc. However, I've always felt that there was something "special" about getting an M1 directly from the Federal arsenal. Your thoughts please.

Posted: 9/1/2004 10:59:42 AM EDT

[#1]

I like nothing better than tell people that the US Government sent me a military rifle for being such a good patriotic citizen.

Posted: 9/1/2004 10:59:46 AM EDT

[#2]

If you can find someone to let go of an M1 for the same price...

The DCM will also inspect and should at least check the headspace on rifles they send out. If you buy one from a private party, you'd have to get it checked out, or at least get a NO-GO and a FIELD gauge to check headspace with.

Posted: 9/1/2004 11:03:34 AM EDT

[#3]

- better than a gun show reweld

- may have been used by your grandfather on the beaches of Normandy or Iwo Jima

- you save one from melt-down

- they ship it to your house!!

Posted: 9/1/2004 11:07:29 AM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
I like nothing better than tell people that the US Government sent me a military rifle for being such a good patriotic citizen.

I like that response. Those are pretty much my thoughts too. The govt. won't sell those to just anybody.

Posted: 9/1/2004 11:08:22 AM EDT

[#5]

I can't think of anyone who would sell a CMP garand for what they paid for it. I would expect at least a 50% markup if the seller was feeling generous.

Posted: 9/1/2004 11:13:56 AM EDT

[#6]

I would go with the CMP rifle. Those rifles are in a fairly decent shape, and the qualifying matches are kind of find if you've never shot in match. To qualify for a rifle, the score in the match is not nessary, just that you actually shot the match.

Posted: 9/1/2004 11:14:12 AM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
All things being equal (price and quality) are there advantages to purchasing an M1 from the DCM vs. purchasing from a private party? The private party purchase would be... well, private. I would also be able to inspect the weapon, etc. However, I've always felt that there was something "special" about getting an M1 directly from the Federal arsenal. Your thoughts please.

First of all, it is the CMP now, not the DCM.

Secondly, as the others have stated, you don't have to worry about welded receivers (they are not re-welds, as they were never welded to begin with) or the gun being stolen.

Also, if you do have problems with it (which I doubt you will) the CMP will be more than happy to get it straightened out to YOUR satisfaction.

Posted: 9/1/2004 11:17:56 AM EDT

[#8]

I can't think of anyone who would sell a CMP garand for what they paid for it. I would expect at least a 50% markup if the seller was feeling generous.

i can. the guy at berea that would have sold me his cmp dane/var for the money he had init...$350. he walked around all day with no takers.

Posted: 9/1/2004 11:37:47 AM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
Quoted:
All things being equal (price and quality) are there advantages to purchasing an M1 from the DCM vs. purchasing from a private party? The private party purchase would be... well, private. I would also be able to inspect the weapon, etc. However, I've always felt that there was something "special" about getting an M1 directly from the Federal arsenal. Your thoughts please.

First of all, it is the CMP now, not the DCM.

Secondly, as the others have stated, you don't have to worry about welded receivers (they are not re-welds, as they were never welded to begin with) or the gun being stolen.

Also, if you do have problems with it (which I doubt you will) the CMP will be more than happy to get it straightened out to YOUR satisfaction.

First,

It was always CMP. DCM stands for Director - Civilian Marksmanship: The Host of the National Matches.

Second:

The CMP has been good to me:

Posted: 9/1/2004 12:59:11 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
- better than a gun show reweld
- may have been used by your grandfather on the beaches of Normandy or Iwo Jima
- you save one from melt-down
- they ship it to your house!!

+1

x5 (I love Garands!)

Posted: 9/1/2004 2:39:00 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
All things being equal (price and quality) are there advantages to purchasing an M1 from the DCM vs. purchasing from a private party? The private party purchase would be... well, private. I would also be able to inspect the weapon, etc. However, I've always felt that there was something "special" about getting an M1 directly from the Federal arsenal. Your thoughts please.

First of all, it is the CMP now, not the DCM.

Secondly, as the others have stated, you don't have to worry about welded receivers (they are not re-welds, as they were never welded to begin with) or the gun being stolen.

Also, if you do have problems with it (which I doubt you will) the CMP will be more than happy to get it straightened out to YOUR satisfaction.

First,

It was always CMP. DCM stands for Director - Civilian Marksmanship: The Host of the National Matches.

Second:

The CMP has been good to me:

photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=25274

It used to be named the Department of Civilian Marksmanship and was a part of the Department of the Army as evidenced by my paperwork that came with my first DCM rifle back years ago.

Posted: 9/1/2004 2:52:40 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
I can't think of anyone who would sell a CMP garand for what they paid for it. I would expect at least a 50% markup if the seller was feeling generous.

i can. the guy at berea that would have sold me his cmp dane/var for the money he had init...$350. he walked around all day with no takers.

SHIT, I would jumped on that one..........

Posted: 9/1/2004 2:54:34 PM EDT

[#13]

Oh and in reply to the thread author, YES CMP if you can, I have had a great experiance with them, 2 weeks total time, form mailing in my papers, to recieving the rifle, and SWEET RIFLE IT IS...

Posted: 9/1/2004 3:00:21 PM EDT

[#14]

www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=history+of+the+department+of+civilian+marksmanship&btnG=Search

A 1903 Act of Congress established the National Board for the Pro-motion of Rifle Practice. The Act led to the subsequent creation of the Civilian Marksmanship Program as a means of realizing the Board’s objective of teaching marksmanship skills to civilians. The original Civilian Marksmanship Program was, until 1996, adminis-tered by the Office of the Director of Civilian Marksmanship in the Department of the Army. The current Civilian Marksmanship Program was created in 1996 when far-sighted federal legislation established the Corporation for the Promotion of Rifle Practice and Firearm Safety as a private, non-profit corporation responsible for the “supervision, oversight, and control of the Civilian Marksmanship Program.” The act transferred the mission and assets of the Department of the Army’s Office of the Director of Civilian Marksmanship to the new Corporation

Posted: 9/1/2004 4:09:46 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
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Quoted:
All things being equal (price and quality) are there advantages to purchasing an M1 from the DCM vs. purchasing from a private party? The private party purchase would be... well, private. I would also be able to inspect the weapon, etc. However, I've always felt that there was something "special" about getting an M1 directly from the Federal arsenal. Your thoughts please.

First of all, it is the CMP now, not the DCM.

Secondly, as the others have stated, you don't have to worry about welded receivers (they are not re-welds, as they were never welded to begin with) or the gun being stolen.

Also, if you do have problems with it (which I doubt you will) the CMP will be more than happy to get it straightened out to YOUR satisfaction.

First,

It was always CMP. DCM stands for Director - Civilian Marksmanship: The Host of the National Matches.

Second:

The CMP has been good to me:

photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=25274

It used to be named the Department of Civilian Marksmanship and was a part of the Department of the Army as evidenced by my paperwork that came with my first DCM rifle back years ago.

Negative - see CAMPYBOB's post above. Also:

Gary Anderson
Director Civilian Marksmanship Program

His email is here:

Director of Civilian Marksmanship
Civilian Marksmanship Program
PO Box 576
Port Clinton, OH 43452
Phone (419) 635-2141
Fax (419) 635-2802
e-mail dcm@odcmp.com

The CMP was created by the U.S. Congress. The original purpose was to provide civilians an opportunity to learn and practice marksmanship skills so they would be skilled marksmen if later called on to serve the U.S. military. Over the years the emphasis of the program shifted to focus on youth development through marksmanship. From 1916 until 1996 the CMP was administered by the U.S. Army. The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1996 (TITLE XVI) created the Corporation for the Promotion of Rifle Practice & Firearms Safety, Inc. (CPRPFS) to take over administration and promotion of the CMP. The CPRPFS is a tax exempt not-for-profit 501(c)(3) organization that derives its mission from public law.

Posted: 9/1/2004 5:38:54 PM EDT

[#16]

Start to finish, what would be the ETA on one of these?

Posted: 9/1/2004 5:56:01 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
If you can find someone to let go of an M1 for the same price...

Without putting the muzzle to their head.

It's god damn ludacris. Gun show dealers buy M1s from the CMP and sell them alongside NM Springfields at the SAME PRICE... Therefore, they're making over a $600 profit.

Screw private Garand purchases... deals aren't near as good as CMP.

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