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8/12/2015 12:10:20 PM EDT
What percentage of traffic stops yield more than just the violation they were stopped for?

Watching a traffic stop while waiting for cab. Dude is getting removed for something.
8/12/2015 12:11:46 PM EDT
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Area and time  dependant,  probably one in five over all
8/12/2015 12:12:54 PM EDT
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Is the driver black?
8/12/2015 12:13:36 PM EDT
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I would say it depends on the area but where I worked well over 50% when I was in traffic back in the '90s/early 2000s. Every other driver was suspended, warrants, etc. We used to routinely let people go for arrestable offenses because there were so many.
8/12/2015 12:13:38 PM EDT
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Now we are asking the right questions
8/12/2015 12:14:57 PM EDT
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This. Time of night. Area of town. Some neighborhoods I've worked it was close to 60/40.
8/12/2015 12:17:03 PM EDT
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I would say it depends on the area but where I worked well over 50% when I was in traffic back in the '90s/early 2000s. Every other driver was suspended, warrants, etc. We used to routinely let people go for arrestable offenses because there were so many.
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I would say it depends on the area but where I worked well over 50% when I was in traffic back in the '90s/early 2000s. Every other driver was suspended, warrants, etc. We used to routinely let people go for arrestable offenses because there were so many.

what part of GA was that?
8/12/2015 12:18:39 PM EDT
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what part of GA was that?
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What percentage of traffic stops yield more than just the violation they were stopped for?

I would say it depends on the area but where I worked well over 50% when I was in traffic back in the '90s/early 2000s. Every other driver was suspended, warrants, etc. We used to routinely let people go for arrestable offenses because there were so many.

what part of GA was that?

Not GA, back in NYC.
8/12/2015 12:23:52 PM EDT
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This. Time of night. Area of town. Some neighborhoods I've worked it was close to 60/40.
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This. Time of night. Area of town. Some neighborhoods I've worked it was close to 60/40.




 



Yup. If I'm looking for warrants/suspensions, nearly 100%.




Run the tag, find suspension/warrant.
8/12/2015 12:24:04 PM EDT
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AND it depends on who is pulling you over.  If its a traffic cop of Highway Patrol, probably 5-10%.  If it's a patrol guy "fishing", 20-30%.  Real shitty neighborhoods, closer to 50/50.

















When I worked patrol, I'd stop 8-12 cars a 12 hours shift and could usually pull a felony out of one.  I usually wrote 1 ticket out of those stops, with most being warnings or advisals.





 







 
8/12/2015 12:26:58 PM EDT
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Depends on the officer.  Some just want to hit their quota.  Others like arresting people and watching them cry in the back seat.
8/12/2015 12:27:43 PM EDT
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What is this "quota" you speak of...???




 




 
8/12/2015 12:28:50 PM EDT
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It's amazing how a guy with five felony warrants will drive a 65 Chevrolet down the street at 1am.One working head light,no taillights,no tags, and no windshield.The same guy can't believe you stopped him.
8/12/2015 12:29:59 PM EDT
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How dare you! Do you know who I am???  LOL



 

8/12/2015 12:30:33 PM EDT
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I always watch them get out of their vehicle. If he has book in hand I'm dommed.
8/12/2015 12:32:13 PM EDT
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Depends on the officer.  Some just want to hit their quota.  Others like arresting people and watching them cry in the back seat.

What is this "quota" you speak of...???
 

The thing I got yelled at for not meeting when I was in traffic because I made a bunch of arrests that month.
8/12/2015 12:33:25 PM EDT
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You forgot the open beer and the cloud of pot smoke.
8/12/2015 12:36:07 PM EDT
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"Patrol objectives"
8/12/2015 12:38:51 PM EDT
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I've had my same ticket book (25 tickets I think in a full book) for almost a year now.  And nearly all of those are citations out of crashes.  I wish we had time to proactively work traffic.
8/12/2015 12:50:41 PM EDT
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I hate writing tickets, but could do it all day and night, if I felt like it. As others have said, it's situation dependant. I've stopped a Jimmy John's driver for speeding, was going to give him a warning, and he popped for a unpaid speeding ticket warrant. I let him call his manager so the customer could get their sandwich.

Most of my "routine"  stops have been some of my biggest cases.
8/12/2015 1:20:29 PM EDT
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In bad neighborhoods almost any stop could result in an arrest because no one has a valid license, the tags are probably bogus, dude has warrants, dope, guns, drunk, etc. In nice neighborhoods, just the opposite. If you ride a hot area and want to stay available for calls of a serious nature you either don't stop a lot of people or let a lot of people go on petty stuff like revoked license. Plus your partners don't appreciate if you are tied up on a self generated misdemeanor when shooting calls are going out.
8/12/2015 1:28:19 PM EDT
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The thing I got yelled at for not meeting when I was in traffic because I made a bunch of arrests that month.
Same here.  It's not a quota its a "performance standard."

 
8/12/2015 1:35:27 PM EDT
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I would say it depends on the area but where I worked well over 50% when I was in traffic back in the '90s/early 2000s. Every other driver was suspended, warrants, etc. We used to routinely let people go for arrestable offenses because there were so many.
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What percentage of traffic stops yield more than just the violation they were stopped for?

I would say it depends on the area but where I worked well over 50% when I was in traffic back in the '90s/early 2000s. Every other driver was suspended, warrants, etc. We used to routinely let people go for arrestable offenses because there were so many.


If I stopped you, it was for a collar. No arrest? "Hey. Drive a little safer...OK?"   In the 90's it was kilos, guns, push-in crews, etc. After 04, it was strictly gangs... We probably stopped and let go tens of thousands of people for traffic bullshit.
I think I wrote less than 100 moving violations, (never went to court / ECAB) and took a ton of shit for it. There was absolutely NO fucking point screwing regular folks out of $, when scumbaggery was so prevalent.
8/12/2015 1:48:38 PM EDT
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It's amazing how a guy with five felony warrants will drive a 65 Chevrolet down the street at 1am.One working head light,no taillights,no tags, and no windshield.The same guy can't believe you stopped him.






How dare you! Do you know who I am???  LOL

 







You only stopped him because he was black...



 
8/12/2015 2:12:11 PM EDT
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If I stopped you, it was for a collar. No arrest? "Hey. Drive a little safer...OK?"   In the 90's it was kilos, guns, push-in crews, etc. After 04, it was strictly gangs....
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What percentage of traffic stops yield more than just the violation they were stopped for?

I would say it depends on the area but where I worked well over 50% when I was in traffic back in the '90s/early 2000s. Every other driver was suspended, warrants, etc. We used to routinely let people go for arrestable offenses because there were so many.

If I stopped you, it was for a collar. No arrest? "Hey. Drive a little safer...OK?"   In the 90's it was kilos, guns, push-in crews, etc. After 04, it was strictly gangs....

Remember how many people were felony 511 back then? Every other motorist had dozens of suspensions. You'd waste every day if you arrested them all.
8/12/2015 2:15:18 PM EDT
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No, that's annoying.
I hate criers.
I hate drunk women
I hate mouthy juveniles.
8/12/2015 2:16:30 PM EDT
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If its a traffic guy, very low probability of getting anything more than a suspension, unlicensed or DUI. Most of those guys dont even run for warrants and check for status only on licenses. (Traffic cops suck) patrol guys are usually fishing for dirtbags using any vehicle code as probable cause to stop and find out what they are up to. Those stops usually result in dope, guns, gangbangers, stolen property, warrants etc... about 20-30% of the time with a good officer who knows what hes looking for, depending on the area worked could be higher or lower. When I worked gang neighborhoods, it was closer to 75% that I was pulling someone out of the car for some more serious violation.
8/12/2015 2:20:25 PM EDT
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When I was a rookie, 10% turned into something else. Now that I've been doing this a while, its closer to 80%.
8/12/2015 2:24:29 PM EDT
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Remember how many people were felony 511 back then? Every other motorist had dozens of suspensions. You'd waste every day if you arrested them all.
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What percentage of traffic stops yield more than just the violation they were stopped for?

I would say it depends on the area but where I worked well over 50% when I was in traffic back in the '90s/early 2000s. Every other driver was suspended, warrants, etc. We used to routinely let people go for arrestable offenses because there were so many.

If I stopped you, it was for a collar. No arrest? "Hey. Drive a little safer...OK?"   In the 90's it was kilos, guns, push-in crews, etc. After 04, it was strictly gangs....

Remember how many people were felony 511 back then? Every other motorist had dozens of suspensions. You'd waste every day if you arrested them all.


When someone in the Heights handed you a legit license....You had to fight the urge to hand them all your money, strip your uniform off and leave it in the street....and just go home....
8/12/2015 2:26:47 PM EDT
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When someone in the Heights handed you a legit license....You had to fight the urge to hand them all your money, strip your uniform off and leave it in the street....and just go home....
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Remember how many people were felony 511 back then? Every other motorist had dozens of suspensions. You'd waste every day if you arrested them all.

When someone in the Heights handed you a legit license....You had to fight the urge to hand them all your money, strip your uniform off and leave it in the street....and just go home....

My favorites were the livery drivers with their Ivory Coast driver's licenses.
8/12/2015 2:32:51 PM EDT
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When someone in the Heights handed you a legit license....You had to fight the urge to hand them all your money, strip your uniform off and leave it in the street....and just go home....
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What percentage of traffic stops yield more than just the violation they were stopped for?

I would say it depends on the area but where I worked well over 50% when I was in traffic back in the '90s/early 2000s. Every other driver was suspended, warrants, etc. We used to routinely let people go for arrestable offenses because there were so many.

If I stopped you, it was for a collar. No arrest? "Hey. Drive a little safer...OK?"   In the 90's it was kilos, guns, push-in crews, etc. After 04, it was strictly gangs....

Remember how many people were felony 511 back then? Every other motorist had dozens of suspensions. You'd waste every day if you arrested them all.


When someone in the Heights handed you a legit license....You had to fight the urge to hand them all your money, strip your uniform off and leave it in the street....and just go home....

I got to where I would just walk up and ask " Suspended or Revoked?"
8/12/2015 2:37:39 PM EDT
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Get both.
8/12/2015 2:46:25 PM EDT
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I got to where I would just walk up and ask "Suspended or Revoked?"

Get both.


I literally put handcuffs on a Dominican dude who handed me a Saskatchewan DL.  I was driving the boss, and said "watch this"...

I walked up to the window...."Sir?"    (him).."Jes.."     (me) "What's a Hat Trick??"    (him).."A whaa??"

"Get outta the fuckin car....click click
8/12/2015 2:48:27 PM EDT
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I literally put handcuffs on a Dominican dude who handed me a Saskatchewan DL.  I was driving the boss, and said "watch this"...

I walked up to the window...."Sir?"    (him).."Jes.."     (me) "What's a Hat Trick??"    (him).."A whaa??"

"Get outta the fuckin car....click click
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I got to where I would just walk up and ask "Suspended or Revoked?"

Get both.


I literally put handcuffs on a Dominican dude who handed me a Saskatchewan DL.  I was driving the boss, and said "watch this"...

I walked up to the window...."Sir?"    (him).."Jes.."     (me) "What's a Hat Trick??"    (him).."A whaa??"

"Get outta the fuckin car....click click

Well played.
8/12/2015 5:31:54 PM EDT
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In a small town(700+) I would get quite a few revoked, suspended, cancelled, cancelled IPS, Expired, etc.

The most I got on one stop was for not stopping at a stop sign.
I had him for......
- Stop sign
- Underage drinking and driving
- Minor consumption
- Open bottle
- possession of alcohol
- Possession of tobacco

Driver was 16 years old.

8/12/2015 5:43:13 PM EDT
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DWB, a violation in itself.
8/12/2015 9:55:05 PM EDT
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Watching a traffic stop while waiting for cab. Dude is getting removed for something.
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Totally depends on where you work, what shift you work and if you are working strictly traffic or if traffic stops are the means that justify an ends.

Like where I work, I could go out right now and with in 5 stops I could have a decent dope arrest and prob get warrants on 2 other stops. Each stop would be totally legit ie: valid legal reasons for stop.

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8/12/2015 10:02:27 PM EDT
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About 1 in 10.
8/12/2015 10:05:18 PM EDT
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In a small town(700+) I would get quite a few revoked, suspended, cancelled, cancelled IPS, Expired, etc.



The most I got on one stop was for not stopping at a stop sign.

I had him for......

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- Underage drinking and driving

- Minor consumption

- Open bottle

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Obviously, he wasn't drunk while driving, or you would have charged him with that too.  



 
8/12/2015 10:14:08 PM EDT
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Some shit bird welder we had working contract at our shop just got popped for his 5th DWI. Dude was driving down the road drunk on a busted tire with the rim sparking all over the place 25 miles from home. He's apparently going away for awhile. Criminals are generally stupid people.
8/12/2015 10:16:46 PM EDT
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I'm gonna guess it's more like "how the hell did he know?".

8/12/2015 10:27:01 PM EDT
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Reading this thread and watching Cops. It seems everyone has warrants. Wtf?
8/13/2015 7:53:07 AM EDT
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Before our PD streamlined the process for bringing in people with warrants they were let go constantly.
8/13/2015 8:11:12 AM EDT
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ3dk6KAvQM
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Drawers full of warrants
Why?
because suspects can't be easily found very often.
8/13/2015 8:16:07 AM EDT
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Notice...the shakedown starts when stopped by the Gestapo and demanded to "show your papers"
8/13/2015 8:43:49 AM EDT
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When I was a LEO back in the late 90s early 2000's I would say it was close to 4/10. But as others have said, it depends on what area, time of day etc etc
8/13/2015 8:54:39 AM EDT
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I would say it depends on the area but where I worked well over 50% when I was in traffic back in the '90s/early 2000s. Every other driver was suspended, warrants, etc. We used to routinely let people go for arrestable offenses because there were so many.
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I would say it depends on the area but where I worked well over 50% when I was in traffic back in the '90s/early 2000s. Every other driver was suspended, warrants, etc. We used to routinely let people go for arrestable offenses because there were so many.

This. We let alot of smaller arrestable offenses go completely or cite and release because we just dont have the time or man power to make a custodial arrest for it all.
8/13/2015 9:00:30 AM EDT
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Or a drivers license.
8/13/2015 9:17:14 AM EDT
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If I stopped you, it was for a collar. No arrest? "Hey. Drive a little safer...OK?"   In the 90's it was kilos, guns, push-in crews, etc. After 04, it was strictly gangs... We probably stopped and let go tens of thousands of people for traffic bullshit.
I think I wrote less than 100 moving violations, (never went to court / ECAB) and took a ton of shit for it. There was absolutely NO fucking point screwing regular folks out of $, when scumbaggery was so prevalent.
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What percentage of traffic stops yield more than just the violation they were stopped for?

I would say it depends on the area but where I worked well over 50% when I was in traffic back in the '90s/early 2000s. Every other driver was suspended, warrants, etc. We used to routinely let people go for arrestable offenses because there were so many.


If I stopped you, it was for a collar. No arrest? "Hey. Drive a little safer...OK?"   In the 90's it was kilos, guns, push-in crews, etc. After 04, it was strictly gangs... We probably stopped and let go tens of thousands of people for traffic bullshit.
I think I wrote less than 100 moving violations, (never went to court / ECAB) and took a ton of shit for it. There was absolutely NO fucking point screwing regular folks out of $, when scumbaggery was so prevalent.


Like I tell the new guys...there are alot of bad people out there
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