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3/4/2012 4:02:10 PM EDT
Seriously how hard is this?  I cook breakfast all the time I think I am going to open my own shop and start selling it.  5 bucks for a couple of eggs and hash browns?  That would only cost like 1 buck if I buy in bulk and I can bang that out in no time.  

Licence to print money.
3/4/2012 4:04:53 PM EDT
[#1]
Knock yourself out.
3/4/2012 4:05:19 PM EDT
[#2]
Most go under in first year.  Good luck!
3/4/2012 4:07:10 PM EDT
[#3]

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Seriously how hard is this?  I cook breakfast all the time I think I am going to open my own shop and start selling it.






So you have free access to a shop that will add nothing to your expenses so you can make $4 profit on every breakfast you sell?




That's an outstanding business plan!
 
 
 
 
 
3/4/2012 4:08:27 PM EDT
[#4]
What could possibly go wrong?

Do it.
3/4/2012 4:08:35 PM EDT
[#5]
Watch the UK version of kitchen nightmares.  It is by no means a tutorial of how to run a restaurant but it will give you some good examples of what not to do.  Also, you are a stupid cow.
3/4/2012 4:09:04 PM EDT
[#6]
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Seriously how hard is this?  I cook breakfast all the time I think I am going to open my own shop and start selling it.

So you have free access to a shop that will add nothing to your expenses so you can make $4 profit on every breakfast you sell?
That's an outstanding business plan!
         


Of course I would have to buy a stove and a fridge, not that expensive.  Then just fire up the stove and start making breakfast just like I do for myself.  Even better since I want to open a breakfast joint I don't have to be open all day.
3/4/2012 4:10:25 PM EDT
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Seriously how hard is this?  I cook breakfast all the time I think I am going to open my own shop and start selling it.  5 bucks for a couple of eggs and hash browns?  That would only cost like 1 buck if I buy in bulk and I can bang that out in no time.  
Licence to print money.





I too thought the same thing.  Then I became acquainted with my city's food serving regulation & permitting regulations.


 









First you have to take time off work to take a test that allows you to work with food that comes in contact with the public.










Then once you have that permit, you must prepare your food in a permitted and inspected kitchen.  Your kitchen is not one of these.  You need to find one that allows you to cook in their facility.










Done all that?  Good!  Next, you have to serve your food at certain temperatures, have handwashing station, fire extinguisher, etc where you actually intend to serve your food.  Anyone working in your food serving station needs a permit to work with food as well.


 
3/4/2012 4:10:41 PM EDT
[#8]
So are you doing this out of your house or are you renting a building?
3/4/2012 4:11:40 PM EDT
[#9]
Location, licenses, insurance, utilities, cooking equipment, fridge/freezer, utensils, dishes, seating, cleaning supplies, POS system, credit card merchant account(they need their cut), payroll (since it will be about impossible to cook, bus, take orders and collect money all by yourself), etc, etc, etc. Then figure your prep time, several hours before opening and then your clean-up time, couple of hours after closing. Owning/managing/cooking at a restaurant sounds about like 16 hour days for minimum wage if you are successful. I always dreamed about it too
3/4/2012 4:13:38 PM EDT
[#10]
Well, among many other things, the cost for me to buy and cook my breakfast does not factor in the half a dozen permits, licenses and assorted government permissions I would need to sell breakfast to others.

(In my city it is 18 in total if you want to sell booze with the food, which is kinda expected here, once you include all city, state, and federal permission slips.)

Yay "free" markets.


ETA: I am extremely close friends with the owners of three restaurants, and good friends with the owners of two others and with four bar owners, one of whom also owns a restaurant.  I do not envy them in the slightest.  (Well, except maybe Ganesh when I was single.  That dude just straight up falls into so much tail it ain't even funny.  Works his behind off though.)
3/4/2012 4:14:55 PM EDT
[#11]
Cooking and cooking for a living are completely different...
3/4/2012 4:15:13 PM EDT
[#12]
Nice counter-thread!

I like to cook as well, but the mortality rates of new restaurants is abysmal.
3/4/2012 4:15:47 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Seriously how hard is this?  I cook breakfast all the time I think I am going to open my own shop and start selling it.  5 bucks for a couple of eggs and hash browns?  That would only cost like 1 buck if I buy in bulk and I can bang that out in no time.  

Licence to print money.



What are the stats on success/failure with restaurants?

Now I figure a food truck would make $$$$ in my area, selling breakfast and lunch at our shop and others in the area.
3/4/2012 4:17:07 PM EDT
[#14]
I don't like eggs ,I want pancakes.
3/4/2012 4:18:05 PM EDT
[#15]
Good luck with that !

I have owned a large restaurant since 1988 , I wish you would buy it from me
3/4/2012 4:20:04 PM EDT
[#16]
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Now I figure a food truck would make $$$$ in my area, selling breakfast and lunch at our shop and others in the area.


Now you're cooking with gas.
3/4/2012 4:22:19 PM EDT
[#17]
Have at it. You'll grow tired of it in short order.
3/4/2012 4:23:23 PM EDT
[#18]
Don't forget about this plus service and maintenance
3/4/2012 4:23:31 PM EDT
[#19]
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Have at it. You'll grow tired of it in short order.


Don't you get tired of everything though?
3/4/2012 4:25:52 PM EDT
[#20]
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Have at it. You'll grow tired of it in short order.


No pun intended of course.
3/4/2012 4:28:14 PM EDT
[#21]








Does one need fire suppression if they don't have fryers and/or use electric equipment?
3/4/2012 4:28:38 PM EDT
[#22]
Don't listen to these fuckers. You should totally do this. Borrow as much as you can, you'll be ass deep in cash anyway so its not like it'll be hard to pay back
3/4/2012 4:30:09 PM EDT
[#23]
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Don't listen to these fuckers. You should totally do this. Borrow as much as you can, you'll be ass deep in cash anyway so its not like it'll be hard to pay back


This man speaks the truth.
3/4/2012 4:30:28 PM EDT
[#24]




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Don't listen to these fuckers. You should totally do this. Borrow as much as you can, you'll be ass deep in cash anyway so its not like it'll be hard to pay back




Triple mortgage the house and max out the personal credit cards also
3/4/2012 4:31:28 PM EDT
[#25]
I hear if you have $80,000 worth of cooking implements, your kitchen cabinets will still have plenty of space for more.
3/4/2012 4:35:27 PM EDT
[#26]
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Seriously how hard is this?  

I cook breakfast all the time I think I am going to open my own shop and start selling it.  

5 bucks for a couple of eggs and hash browns?  That would only cost like 1 buck if I buy in bulk and I can bang that out in no time.  

Licence to print money.


I'll have to stop by sometime, evaluate the food, and give you some preliminary feedback ...





3/4/2012 4:37:57 PM EDT
[#27]
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Seriously how hard is this?  I cook breakfast all the time I think I am going to open my own shop and start selling it.

So you have free access to a shop that will add nothing to your expenses so you can make $4 profit on every breakfast you sell?
That's an outstanding business plan!
         


Of course I would have to buy a stove and a fridge, not that expensive.  Then just fire up the stove and start making breakfast just like I do for myself.  Even better since I want to open a breakfast joint I don't have to be open all day.


CO already has the best breakfast joint ever.

It's called The Egg and I.

My wife and I single-handedly keep the one in Estes Park open when we visit.
3/4/2012 4:52:20 PM EDT
[#28]
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Does one need fire suppression if they don't have fryers and/or use electric equipment?


I honestly don't know, probably varies state to state. What kind of half assed kitchen isn't going to have electric equipment and or deep fryers though?

Anyway, I went to culinary school and my instructor basically did everything in his power to talk us out of opening our own place...lol. The Ansul system was mentioned as part of operating costs, over head, linen service, pest control, etc. One sick customer shuts you down...it's a hairy business. We were also told that you need to figure out what your expenses will be for 1 year and have that x2 in the bank if you want to succeed.

To the OP

I suggest you find a place similar to what you would like to open and ask the owner if you could work there for free on your weekend mornings. Do that for few weeks to see what you're getting yourself into.

3/4/2012 4:53:32 PM EDT
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Does one need fire suppression if they don't have fryers and/or use electric equipment?


I honestly don't know, probably varies state to state. What kind of half assed kitchen isn't going to have electric equipment and or deep fryers though?

Anyway, I went to culinary school and my instructor basically did everything in his power to talk us out of opening our own place...lol. The Ansul system was mentioned as part of operating costs, over head, linen service, pest control, etc. One sick customer shuts you down...it's a hairy business. We were also told that you need to figure out what your expenses will be for 1 year and have that x2 in the bank if you want to succeed.

To the OP

I suggest you find a place similar to what you would like to open and ask the owner if you could work there for free on your weekend mornings. Do that for few weeks to see what you're getting yourself into.



I have never made anyone sick and I have cooked a LOT of breakfast.
3/4/2012 4:58:07 PM EDT
[#30]
I'm up for the position of interior designer and menu designer, etc. etc.
 
3/4/2012 5:01:17 PM EDT
[#31]
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I'm up for the position of interior designer and menu designer, etc. etc.  


My wife helped paint our house and she knows how to type on Word so I think we are good.  But thank you!
3/4/2012 5:06:27 PM EDT
[#32]
Menu design?!

Pretty sure it would go something like this

1. Eggs - Scrambled - Fried - Sunny Side Up - Over Easy
2. Bacon
3. Home Fries
4. Toast
3/4/2012 5:39:51 PM EDT
[#33]



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I'm up for the position of interior designer and menu designer, etc. etc.  




My wife helped paint our house and she knows how to type on Word so I think we are good.  But thank you!


Lol. Oooo, yeah have fun with that.
 
3/4/2012 5:52:07 PM EDT
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I'm up for the position of interior designer and menu designer, etc. etc.  


My wife helped paint our house and she knows how to type on Word so I think we are good.  But thank you!

Lol. Oooo, yeah have fun with that.


 


She even picked the colors and it came out very well.  I know she is more then capable to do it for a store, how much easier is that?
3/4/2012 6:05:52 PM EDT
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Seriously how hard is this?  I cook breakfast all the time I think I am going to open my own shop and start selling it.


So you have free access to a shop that will add nothing to your expenses so you can make $4 profit on every breakfast you sell?

That's an outstanding business plan!

         




Of course I would have to buy a stove and a fridge, not that expensive.  Then just fire up the stove and start making breakfast just like I do for myself.  Even better since I want to open a breakfast joint I don't have to be open all day.
Fuck it, your plan sounds bulletproof.  I say go for it, and post results.  





 
3/4/2012 6:44:57 PM EDT
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I'm up for the position of interior designer and menu designer, etc. etc.  




My wife helped paint our house and she knows how to type on Word so I think we are good.  But thank you!


Lol. Oooo, yeah have fun with that.





 




She even picked the colors and it came out very well.  I know she is more then capable to do it for a store, how much easier is that?


Sounds good to me. You might need more than Word for the menu though, just sayin'. Have any pics of decor? And yeah, make sure to post pics of restaurant when it's ready.



 
3/4/2012 6:49:29 PM EDT
[#37]
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Good luck with that !

I have owned a large restaurant since 1988 , I wish you would buy it from me


Dang,  I know you got some stories.

3/4/2012 6:52:06 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
Seriously how hard is this?  I cook breakfast all the time I think I am going to open my own shop and start selling it.  5 bucks for a couple of eggs and hash browns?  That would only cost like 1 buck if I buy in bulk and I can bang that out in no time.  

Licence to print money.