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Posted: 9/28/2005 8:25:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/28/2005 8:27:10 AM EDT by DrFrige]
What do you think...

10 Year MINUMUM MANDATORY sentence in jail and $1,000.00 fine awarded to each person affected by the virus... I think that would slow those F***ers down!




Link Posted: 9/28/2005 8:27:43 AM EDT
I'd vote for it.

I hate virus writers.

Link Posted: 9/28/2005 8:28:46 AM EDT
sorry,

While I feel your pain, I do not think it should be a 10 year mandatory sentence.

It is not a violent crime, and people get less for manslaughter.
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 8:31:10 AM EDT
10 years seems a bit extreme. Should determine prison sentence on a case by case basis.

The monetary fine seems appropriate though.

I think all spammers should be publicly beaten, tied up, and given the ol' dirty sanchez. Just my .02.
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 8:32:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By thedave1164:
sorry,

While I feel your pain, I do not think it should be a 10 year mandatory sentence.

It is not a violent crime, and people get less for manslaughter.



You're right. Keep the punishment in the civil realm. Just have the writers pay back every dime of added costs their little programing feat costs the US economy. Until they pay back everything they owe they are barred from using any electronic devices.
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 8:42:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

Originally Posted By thedave1164:
sorry,

While I feel your pain, I do not think it should be a 10 year mandatory sentence.

It is not a violent crime, and people get less for manslaughter.



You're right. Keep the punishment in the civil realm. Just have the writers pay back every dime of added costs their little programing feat costs the US economy. Until they pay back everything they owe they are barred from using any electronic devices.




Damn! Don't you think that a little extreme. If they were barred from using any electronic device, I guess they would be fucked if they needed a pacemaker. How about just no user programmable computers.

Vulcan94
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 8:45:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/28/2005 8:46:13 AM EDT by WildBoar]
I always pictured it like this.

By day a software programmer working for a major antivirus company.

By night a jerk who writes viruses so he has something to do at work.

Job security.
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 8:45:25 AM EDT
I fix computers everyday infected with virus's. 9 hours a day. I don't know what i would do if there were not virus, spyware, trojan's. I might loose my job

but i agree something needs to be done
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 8:45:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Vulcan94:

Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

Originally Posted By thedave1164:
sorry,

While I feel your pain, I do not think it should be a 10 year mandatory sentence.

It is not a violent crime, and people get less for manslaughter.



You're right. Keep the punishment in the civil realm. Just have the writers pay back every dime of added costs their little programing feat costs the US economy. Until they pay back everything they owe they are barred from using any electronic devices.




Damn! Don't you think that a little extreme. If they were barred from using any electronic device, I guess they would be fucked if they needed a pacemaker. How about just no user programmable computers.

Vulcan94



No. You guys are watering it down ... YOU ARE THINKING LIKE LIBERALS AND FEELING SORRY FOR THE CRIMINAL!!!

10 YEARS!!!!

Now stop watering it down or I'll make it 20 YEARS!!!
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 8:47:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By WildBoar:
I always pictured it like this.

By day a software programmer working for a major antivirus company.

By night a jerk who writes viruses so he has something to do at work.

Job security.



You are probably closer to the truth than we know
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 8:49:27 AM EDT
I would just suggest a good firewall and anti-virus software.

That with a little common sense will go a long way!

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 8:51:12 AM EDT
So what makes you think you'll be able to find the bastard AND that they'll have the assets you can get to , to get your money?
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 8:51:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By cruze5:
I fix computers everyday infected with virus's. 9 hours a day. I don't know what i would do if there were not virus, spyware, trojan's. I might loose my job

but i agree something needs to be done



I would hate for anyone to lose their job!

You have helped me with things in the past and I am grateful to have had the help!

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 8:51:57 AM EDT

Most computer viruses are easily avoided. The only ones that are truly a problem are the worms that infect computers without any help from the user. And even these can be blocked with a simple firewall.

Just don’t open executable attachments until you are completely convinced its legit.


Spyware is worse.
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 8:53:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Vulcan94:

Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

Originally Posted By thedave1164:
sorry,

While I feel your pain, I do not think it should be a 10 year mandatory sentence.

It is not a violent crime, and people get less for manslaughter.



You're right. Keep the punishment in the civil realm. Just have the writers pay back every dime of added costs their little programing feat costs the US economy. Until they pay back everything they owe they are barred from using any electronic devices.




Damn! Don't you think that a little extreme. If they were barred from using any electronic device, I guess they would be fucked if they needed a pacemaker. How about just no user programmable computers.

Vulcan94



We are in the information age and these SOBs want to bring down our information infrascructure. I have little sympathy, regardless of their motivations. They are a drag chute on our economy when there isn't a huge outbreak and a disaster when something gets out of control.

Symantec alone grossed $2.6B last year. If any other small group of people was costing business that much money they would be out of the picture PDQ, but instead it's just considered the cost of doing business.
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 8:58:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By cruze5:
I fix computers everyday infected with virus's. 9 hours a day. I don't know what i would do if there were not virus, spyware, trojan's. I might loose my job

but i agree something needs to be done



trojan
gui.exe

virus scan picked up 3 "pieces" (?)
could only isolate 1....

trying the scan in safe mode now....and so far its not finding anything UGH
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 9:00:37 AM EDT
No jail time I want public BEATINGS
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 9:02:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BigDozer66:

Originally Posted By cruze5:
I fix computers everyday infected with virus's. 9 hours a day. I don't know what i would do if there were not virus, spyware, trojan's. I might loose my job

but i agree something needs to be done



I would hate for anyone to lose their job!

You have helped me with things in the past and I am grateful to have had the help!

BigDozer66



Glad i was able to help. I try to monitor the urban commando's as much as possible
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 9:07:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DrFrige:

Originally Posted By cruze5:
I fix computers everyday infected with virus's. 9 hours a day. I don't know what i would do if there were not virus, spyware, trojan's. I might loose my job

but i agree something needs to be done



trojan
gui.exe

virus scan picked up 3 "pieces" (?)
could only isolate 1....

trying the scan in safe mode now....and so far its not finding anything UGH




its nearly impossible to get rid of virus's on a system with your current antivirus. The most effective way is to take the Hardrive out, put it in a computer with uptodate antirus. I use panda 2005 with tru prevent Technology. and do a full sytem scan. then once all that is disenfected or deleted. install ewido. or a squared antitrojan. boot into safe mode with networking support update and do another full system scan
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 9:07:41 AM EDT

I always pictured it like this.

By day a software programmer working for a major antivirus company.

By night a jerk who writes viruses so he has something to do at work.

Job security.




there may be more truth to that than we would like to know, It's one of the oldest tricks in the book, create a problem so you can sell a solution.
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 9:08:51 AM EDT

In the grand scheme of things these small time virus makers are actually good for us. They tighten up security measures every time they put out a new virus or find a new hole in computer operating systems to attack.

It’s kind of like an immunization shot every time they create something new. If it did not happen somebody could come along and shut our whole country down with one super virus attack.
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 9:11:08 AM EDT
yea 10 years seems a bit excessive - make it 5 years of putting the round peg in the square hole 12 hours a day. That'll fix their wagon.

Patty *ETA* Public Beatings is a good option!
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 9:14:16 AM EDT
working on one now...replicating type worm...about 800,000 files so far infected on this PC...
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 9:16:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By cruze5:

Originally Posted By DrFrige:

Originally Posted By cruze5:
I fix computers everyday infected with virus's. 9 hours a day. I don't know what i would do if there were not virus, spyware, trojan's. I might loose my job

but i agree something needs to be done



trojan
gui.exe

virus scan picked up 3 "pieces" (?)
could only isolate 1....

trying the scan in safe mode now....and so far its not finding anything UGH




its nearly impossible to get rid of virus's on a system with your current antivirus. The most effective way is to take the Hardrive out, put it in a computer with uptodate antirus. I use panda 2005 with tru prevent Technology. and do a full sytem scan. then once all that is disenfected or deleted. install ewido. or a squared antitrojan. boot into safe mode with networking support update and do another full system scan



welp thats over my head...
if this doesnt work...
guess I will hit compusa
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 9:19:44 AM EDT
I work for the Federal Gov't. and our computers are bombarded by worms and viruses on a weekly basis.
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 9:41:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DrFrige:

Originally Posted By cruze5:

Originally Posted By DrFrige:

Originally Posted By cruze5:
I fix computers everyday infected with virus's. 9 hours a day. I don't know what i would do if there were not virus, spyware, trojan's. I might loose my job

but i agree something needs to be done



trojan
gui.exe

virus scan picked up 3 "pieces" (?)
could only isolate 1....

trying the scan in safe mode now....and so far its not finding anything UGH




its nearly impossible to get rid of virus's on a system with your current antivirus. The most effective way is to take the Hardrive out, put it in a computer with uptodate antirus. I use panda 2005 with tru prevent Technology. and do a full sytem scan. then once all that is disenfected or deleted. install ewido. or a squared antitrojan. boot into safe mode with networking support update and do another full system scan



welp thats over my head...
if this doesnt work...
guess I will hit compusa



install ewido make sure you run the update a couple times untill its done and then do a full sytem scan. the best way to update and scan is safe WITH network support
xblock scroll down and click download.
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 9:43:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By WildBoar:
I always pictured it like this.

By day a software programmer working for a major antivirus company.

By night a jerk who writes viruses so he has something to do at work.

Job security.


+1
thats where its at.
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 9:43:29 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 9:49:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By cruze5:

Originally Posted By DrFrige:

Originally Posted By cruze5:

Originally Posted By DrFrige:

Originally Posted By cruze5:
I fix computers everyday infected with virus's. 9 hours a day. I don't know what i would do if there were not virus, spyware, trojan's. I might loose my job

but i agree something needs to be done



trojan
gui.exe

virus scan picked up 3 "pieces" (?)
could only isolate 1....

trying the scan in safe mode now....and so far its not finding anything UGH




its nearly impossible to get rid of virus's on a system with your current antivirus. The most effective way is to take the Hardrive out, put it in a computer with uptodate antirus. I use panda 2005 with tru prevent Technology. and do a full sytem scan. then once all that is disenfected or deleted. install ewido. or a squared antitrojan. boot into safe mode with networking support update and do another full system scan



welp thats over my head...
if this doesnt work...
guess I will hit compusa



install ewido make sure you run the update a couple times untill its done and then do a full sytem scan. the best way to update and scan is safe WITH network support
xblock scroll down and click download.



I have ewido on the main computer but not on this lap top....(crap cleaner and 3 spyware scans on it tho)...
when it is finished with the most recent scan I will give getting the ewido a shot....
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 9:51:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RS39:
OS10.4 Tiger and a Mac



They're not hack proof, it's just more a matter of "why bother?"
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 9:51:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RS39:
OS10.4 Tiger and a Mac



Just so you know that will not keep you from getting viruses, its just now one has made a virus for mac YET.
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 10:41:54 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 10:48:50 AM EDT
If you would quit visiting Porn sites / downloading warez and mp3's and clicking on every attachment in your mail box. You would not be having these problems...
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 11:24:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
If you would quit visiting Porn sites / downloading warez and mp3's and clicking on every attachment in your mail box. You would not be having these problems...




shhhhhhh
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 11:31:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By cruze5:

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
If you would quit visiting Porn sites / downloading warez and mp3's and clicking on every attachment in your mail box. You would not be having these problems...




shhhhhhh



Ya ya.. I have to deal with f'ed up machines every day. Am I angry at the h/v/t/s community? NO.. I'm more angry at user that DO NOT THINK about there actions. Every action right or wrong has a consequence. Would you hit on the crack ho with out wrapping the rascal? Heck no.. The same should be said about computers.. Wrap that rascal! And think before you click!
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 11:54:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
If you would quit visiting Porn sites / downloading warez and mp3's and clicking on every attachment in your mail box. You would not be having these problems...



it was actually an IM from a known friend...who frequently sends NON porno pic....no reason not to click on the link.
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 11:56:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DrFrige:

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
If you would quit visiting Porn sites / downloading warez and mp3's and clicking on every attachment in your mail box. You would not be having these problems...



it was actually an IM from a known friend...who frequently sends NON porno pic....no reason not to click on the link.



So how did you know it was him and not a doppleganger! There out ther man! just waiting.. Must of been AIM?
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 1:45:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:

Originally Posted By DrFrige:

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
If you would quit visiting Porn sites / downloading warez and mp3's and clicking on every attachment in your mail box. You would not be having these problems...



it was actually an IM from a known friend...who frequently sends NON porno pic....no reason not to click on the link.



So how did you know it was him and not a doppleganger! There out ther man! just waiting.. Must of been AIM?



yes aim

ah well
i think we might have it cleaned up
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 3:55:15 PM EDT
I think one day in jail for each victim... all jail time served consecutively.

The average virus writer should get out of jail sometime after 30,180 AD.
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 6:14:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DrFrige:

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:

Originally Posted By DrFrige:

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
If you would quit visiting Porn sites / downloading warez and mp3's and clicking on every attachment in your mail box. You would not be having these problems...



it was actually an IM from a known friend...who frequently sends NON porno pic....no reason not to click on the link.



So how did you know it was him and not a doppleganger! There out ther man! just waiting.. Must of been AIM?



yes aim

ah well
i think we might have it cleaned up



AIM is very nasty about transporting viri! Let me dig around in my notes, I think I have a AV package that dovetails into AIM.. Might be a day or too.
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