[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Common Core (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 10/18/2013 6:53:21 AM EDT
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There are so many hot topics to try to stay informed on that greatly effect our families. Now here is another one that I have to better understand, Common Core.
Let me start by saying ANYTHING coming out of Washington is cancer. Filth. Scum. Not to be trusted. I saw the video a month back that was posted here and on FreeRepublic where the dad was arrested at the school board meeting for demanding answers and making a statement on Common Core. Here is my question parents. Is this something that needs to be fought just as hard as Govt Healthcare? Is Common Core going to become something that any conservative parent will regret? Any parents involved in this arena? |
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We're like 68th in the world for education, there are third-world countries higher on the list than us. We have to do something, the current system obviously isn't working.
Also, no offense man, but your grammar sucks. It's really hard for me to take a thread about education standards seriously when you can't even type "government" and put punctuation wherever your feel like. Maybe a lack of education or knowledge (ignorance) has something to do with your views? |
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Quoted: We're like 68th in the world for education, there are third-world countries higher on the list than us. We have to do something, the current system obviously isn't working. Also, no offense man, but your grammar sucks. It's really hard for me to take a thread about education standards seriously when you can't even type "government" and put punctuation wherever your feel like. Maybe a lack of education or knowledge (ignorance) has something to do with your views? |
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Here is my question parents. Is this something that needs to be fought just as hard as Govt Healthcare? Is Common Core going to become something that any conservative parent will regret? Any parents involved in this arena? I don't know much about it, but my wife's a teacher and doesn't have a problem with it. They just set learning standards for several different subjects. From what I understand, it's still up to the individual teachers and schools to determine how to apply those standards and how to integrate them into lessons. For example, a common core standard might be "Student understands the purpose of the US Constitution and it's amendments". That's it. It's a pretty vague concept. Any assignments that a conservative parent doesn't agree with is still a result of the individual teacher making a biased assignment, or attempting to preach from the classroom. The common core standard isn't really going to change that, and people really seem to be overreacting because of it. I don't know if it's really necessary or if it will be effective at all, but it's certainly not the system of indoctrination that people are making it out to be. If you have a problem with assignments, you need to take it up with the teacher and the school, and not blame the common core system. |
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We're like 68th in the world for education, there are third-world countries higher on the list than us. We have to do something, the current system obviously isn't working. Also, no offense man, but your grammar sucks. It's really hard for me to take a thread about education standards seriously when you can't even type "government" and put punctuation wherever your feel like. Maybe a lack of education or knowledge (ignorance) has something to do with your views? Education has only gotten worse since the Feds have gotten involved in primary education, so them getting more entrenched will only make things worse and vastly more expensive. |
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I don't know much about it, but my wife's a teacher and doesn't have a problem with it. They just set learning standards for several different subjects. From what I understand, it's still up to the individual teachers and schools to determine how to apply those standards and how to integrate them into lessons. For example, a common core standard might be "Student understands the purpose of the US Constitution and it's amendments". That's it. It's a pretty vague concept. Any assignments that a conservative parent doesn't agree with is still a result of the individual teacher making a biased assignment, or attempting to preach from the classroom. The common core standard isn't really going to change that, and people really seem to be overreacting because of it. Quoted:
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Here is my question parents. Is this something that needs to be fought just as hard as Govt Healthcare? Is Common Core going to become something that any conservative parent will regret? Any parents involved in this arena? I don't know much about it, but my wife's a teacher and doesn't have a problem with it. They just set learning standards for several different subjects. From what I understand, it's still up to the individual teachers and schools to determine how to apply those standards and how to integrate them into lessons. For example, a common core standard might be "Student understands the purpose of the US Constitution and it's amendments". That's it. It's a pretty vague concept. Any assignments that a conservative parent doesn't agree with is still a result of the individual teacher making a biased assignment, or attempting to preach from the classroom. The common core standard isn't really going to change that, and people really seem to be overreacting because of it. Unless I'm mistaken, the curriculum comes with money strings attached to it. There is no doubt an agenda behind it. |
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We're like 68th in the world for education, there are third-world countries higher on the list than us. We have to do something, the current system obviously isn't working. Also, no offense man, but your grammar sucks. It's really hard for me to take a thread about education standards seriously when you can't even type "government" and put punctuation wherever your feel like. Maybe a lack of education or knowledge (ignorance) has something to do with your views? So funny |
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We're like 68th in the world for education, there are third-world countries higher on the list than us. We have to do something, the current system obviously isn't working. Also, no offense man, but your grammar sucks. It's really hard for me to take a thread about education standards seriously when you can't even type "government" and put punctuation wherever your feel like. Maybe a lack of education or knowledge (ignorance) has something to do with your views? Did I spell government wrong? I'm not seeing that in my post. |
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We're like 68th in the world for education, there are third-world countries higher on the list than us. We have to do something, the current system obviously isn't working. Also, no offense man, but your grammar sucks. It's really hard for me to take a thread about education standards seriously when you can't even type "government" and put punctuation wherever your feel like. Maybe a lack of education or knowledge (ignorance) has something to do with your views? My experience in 3rd world countries has been that parents give a shit about their kids in school. Not the typical American version when some trash single parent drops her fuck trophy off and considers in baby sitting. |
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We're like 68th in the world for education, there are third-world countries higher on the list than us. We have to do something, the current system obviously isn't working. Also, no offense man, but your grammar sucks. It's really hard for me to take a thread about education standards seriously when you can't even type "government" and put punctuation wherever your feel like. Maybe a lack of education or knowledge (ignorance) has something to do with your views? 
I am from the 20th century, but really now, let's get serious. Has anyone plumbed the depths of "Common Core" curriculum and consider it a solution to our "federal education problem"? Someone has apparently decided that we should demand our children be taught the "philosophy of math" rather than "math". In the 20th century we learned multiplication by flash cards, multiplication tables, recitation, methodology. See how it is done in "common core". Do many, if any, of the 68 countries ahead of us in education use "common core" curriculum? No, I did not think so. |
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Grammar, language, public speaking, and listening are now grades.
Reading is much more difficult with less focus on reading skills and more on comprehension and vocabulary. Unfortunately, our County's reading program seems to go back to old reading skill sets. There's double the writing from our old curriculum. Lots of summarizing, writing to explain, persuade, or entertain, and students must put in their own words ideas from the text. Social Studies and Science are dumbed down. Math now has multiple ways students can dissect problems and use different mental math strategies. I was one of those "odd ball" kids in school that did math in alternative ways - this will help those students. Lots of middle school skills are now in place in 3rd grade - I'm teaching the Distributive Property of Multiplication. |
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My opinion of Common Core is that its a classic "management by metrics" solution to the wrong problem. The core problem within the US is that that short of completely unmanageable violence, children have the right to education regardless of the disproportionate resources they consume. Common Core is intended, IMO, to provide a single base of education so that comparative metrics have some validiatity. However, it was implemented WAY too aggressively, and fails to address the concept of right to education implying a right to unlimited resources. Alternative schools for 6-12th graders in my area range from 30k to 120k, per year per student. |
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I have a son in the fifth grade and I can say firmly that I do not like it, nor do I think it is in any way, shape or form is it an improvement. Example of a homework question that I helped him with and ended up in an argument with his Mom. Calculate a rounded averaged cost; " A refrigerator cost roughly $57 per year in electricity to operate. How much would it cost to operate the refrigerator for 15 year?" Now I said the answer would be to round $57 to $60 and multiply that by 15 years...Right? No that was the wrong fucking answer they are teaching that you round up $57 to 60 and round up 15 years to 20 years  WTF?? That is just one example and I can go on with more. Mostly I get all the math questions request for help and his Mom gets all the other ones so my sample is limited. |
| I think that were fooked already gov has it's hand in every detail of your life. It will continue to get worse because of the liberalism that is indoctrinated into the youth of our children at school, I bet it has became even worse than when I was going to school and that was recently, I graduated in 2009. |
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I have a son in the fifth grade and I can say firmly that I do not like it, nor do I think it is in any way, shape or form is it an improvement. Example of a homework question that I helped him with and ended up in an argument with his Mom. Calculate an rounded averaged cost; " A refrigerator cost roughly $57 in electricity to operate. How much would it cost to operate the refrigerator for 15 year?" Now I said the answer would be to round $57 to $60 and multiply that by 15 years...Right? No that was the wrong fucking answer they are teaching that you round up $57 to 60 and round up 15 years to 20 years [img]http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_freak.gif[/img][img]http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_freak.gif[/img] WTF?? That is just one example and I can go on with more. Mostly I get all the math questions request for help and his Mom gets all the other ones so my sample is limited. Is that the book answer or the teacher's answer? I taught almost the same problem a week ago and the book had it wrong and the teacher should have corrected it. 
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I'm a substitute teacher by trade......
we've LOST IT........seriously..after subbing in dozens of school districts from California to Oregon, I can't find a decent 12th grader that can read, write, or even spell correctly. Not to mention hand writing.... all a lost art. 
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Like Obamacare, the more you know the less you will like.
May I share this from a book written in the late 1800's. Surprising how few people think. The common expression " thoughtless multitude" is no merely rhetorical phrase. Nothing is truer, even of well-informed people. It was believed that universal education would make all men thinkers, but this hope has not been realized. It has merely furnished, universally, thoughts ready-made. The real ratio of real thinkers remains about the same. Indeed it would not be reckless to hazard the opinion that they are fewer in this age of newspapers and electricity; for many educated people whose heads are now filled with thoughts from books, might have been thinkers had they been thrown more upon their own powers. The author goes on to talk about how when given the assignment to give a report on spiders one would go to the library(now Google) to its farthest reaches to find a book on spiders yet never take the thought to actually observe one. |
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Did I spell government wrong? I'm not seeing that in my post. Quoted:
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We're like 68th in the world for education, there are third-world countries higher on the list than us. We have to do something, the current system obviously isn't working. Also, no offense man, but your grammar sucks. It's really hard for me to take a thread about education standards seriously when you can't even type "government" and put punctuation wherever your feel like. Maybe a lack of education or knowledge (ignorance) has something to do with your views? Did I spell government wrong? I'm not seeing that in my post. Don't worry about it. Your writing style is conversational, and apparently SSO requires strict adherence to AP style as a precondition of his own comprehension. |
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We're like 68th in the world for education, there are third-world countries higher on the list than us. We have to do something, the current system obviously isn't working. Also, no offense man, but your grammar sucks. It's really hard for me to take a thread about education standards seriously when you can't even type "government" and put punctuation wherever your feel like. Maybe a lack of education or knowledge (ignorance) has something to do with your views? pretty petty. this is the internet, not english literature and languages arts at the HS level. are you a parent? because he is asking a very valid question. PHUCK COMMON CORE! see what i did there? hooked on FONICS! yea! but seriously, its a disaster. my son just started pre-k and now that im starting to pay attention to what is covered in the school curriculum. common core shoulda been renamed "communist indoctrination." have you seen some of the crazy shit they're trying to teach our kids? private school for my lil Pete! |
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New textbook for common core. yeah, looks great. sign my kid's up! http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/1370293_10202247824983885_942542718_n.jpg You could have at least picked one of the many examples where the textbook is factually inaccurate. |
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New textbook for common core. yeah, looks great. sign my kid's up! http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/1370293_10202247824983885_942542718_n.jpg Wow, that is all kinds of screwed up
...and the 2A don't grant anything, it affirms the fact that our birthright will not be infringed upon by the government.
So much fail
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Did I spell government wrong? I'm not seeing that in my post. Quoted:
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We're like 68th in the world for education, there are third-world countries higher on the list than us. We have to do something, the current system obviously isn't working. Also, no offense man, but your grammar sucks. It's really hard for me to take a thread about education standards seriously when you can't even type "government" and put punctuation wherever your feel like. Maybe a lack of education or knowledge (ignorance) has something to do with your views? Did I spell government wrong? I'm not seeing that in my post. The irony is you went on a rant about grammar and you misused the word "your". |
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Quoted: Is that the book answer or the teacher's answer? I taught almost the same problem a week ago and the book had it wrong and the teacher should have corrected it. Quoted: Quoted: I have a son in the fifth grade and I can say firmly that I do not like it, nor do I think it is in any way, shape or form is it an improvement. Example of a homework question that I helped him with and ended up in an argument with his Mom. Calculate an rounded averaged cost; " A refrigerator cost roughly $57 in electricity to operate. How much would it cost to operate the refrigerator for 15 year?" Now I said the answer would be to round $57 to $60 and multiply that by 15 years...Right? No that was the wrong fucking answer they are teaching that you round up $57 to 60 and round up 15 years to 20 years [img]http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_freak.gif[/url] WTF?? That is just one example and I can go on with more. Mostly I get all the math questions request for help and his Mom gets all the other ones so my sample is limited. Is that the book answer or the teacher's answer? I taught almost the same problem a week ago and the book had it wrong and the teacher should have corrected it. Pissed me off because that is not a real word or an accepted mathematical method being taught. |
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Quoted: Muphry's Law strikes again. Quoted: Quoted: We're like 68th in the world for education, there are third-world countries higher on the list than us. We have to do something, the current system obviously isn't working. Also, no offense man, but your grammar sucks. It's really hard for me to take a thread about education standards seriously when you can't even type "government" and put punctuation wherever your feel like. Maybe a lack of education or knowledge (ignorance) has something to do with your views? |
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New textbook for common core. yeah, looks great. sign my kid's up! http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/1370293_10202247824983885_942542718_n.jpg Quoted:
New textbook for common core. yeah, looks great. sign my kid's up! http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/1370293_10202247824983885_942542718_n.jpg Again, Common Core doesn't dictate what is taught, it only states the standards that students are required to learn. The textbook author/manufacturer is the one who decided to print that book. Textbooks have a long history of factually inaccurate information or typos that often don't get corrected, even after several versions have been published. That's nothing new. The Common Core standard being addressed is probably something similar to what I typed above: "Students must know and understand the purpose of the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights", or something to that effect. The textbook author decides how to apply that to a lesson. With or without common core, political activism among teachers is going to occur. If they don't already practice the concept of fair and unbiased teaching, then common core isn't going to help or hurt. Quoted:
I have a son in the fifth grade and I can say firmly that I do not like it, nor do I think it is in any way, shape or form is it an improvement. Example of a homework question that I helped him with and ended up in an argument with his Mom. Calculate a rounded averaged cost; " A refrigerator cost roughly $57 per year in electricity to operate. How much would it cost to operate the refrigerator for 15 year?" Now I said the answer would be to round $57 to $60 and multiply that by 15 years...Right? No that was the wrong fucking answer they are teaching that you round up $57 to 60 and round up 15 years to 20 years
WTF?? That is just one example and I can go on with more. Mostly I get all the math questions request for help and his Mom gets all the other ones so my sample is limited. The teacher is the one to blame there. Bad teachers are out there, and they always will be out there. Common core isn't going to change that. And before I sound like someone who is defending the idea of common core, I will say that I am not trying to do so. I don't know enough to determine if it's good or bad, but I do agree that the Federal government needs less influence on our schools, and more power should be left to the states in the matter. But there is a ton of misinformation floating around about common core, and a lot of rumors/claims are unsubstantiated or misunderstood. |
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CCW, I kind of want philosophy of math to be taught in addition to just the math.
A video on Common Core was posted on Youtube where the Common Core Teacher advocates that a wrong answer is OK as long as the path to the wrong answer can be explained. That is such a joke but yet in our new upside down America, it now makes sense. I helped my daughter with multiplication by showing her what I guess you would call philosophy. What does multiplication mean in the real world? We needed to buy paving stones for our front yard. How many do we need? Do we just guess or go buy whatever? No, we can use a tape measure and basic multiplication and come up with square footage so we know exactly how many 12" x 12" stones to buy. Obviously going over the times table so answers become instant has to be done too. And math has to be taught that there is a right and wrong answer. No humanist approach about that. |
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We're like 68th in the world for education, there are third-world countries higher on the list than us. We have to do something, the current system obviously isn't working. Also, no offense man, but your grammar sucks. It's really hard for me to take a thread about education standards seriously when you can't even type "government" and put punctuation wherever your feel like. Maybe a lack of education or knowledge (ignorance) has something to do with your views? show me a 3rd world country that spends the amount of money we pour into public education? per child, per administrator? show me a 3rd world country that produces the shear number or college grads we do? |
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New textbook for common core. yeah, looks great. sign my kid's up! http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/1370293_10202247824983885_942542718_n.jpg Here is another... http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/1233512_10153212790925652_719049816_n.jpg Thanks for the example. This shows why U.S. citizens should fight like hell to keep their federal government out of the business of educating their children. |
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1. Public schools shouldn't exist and this should all be handled with accreditation. Given that public schools do exist and we aren't going to be able to get rid of them for a long time if ever... 2. There should be a common set of topics taught at all public schools. 3. There should be evaluations of the teachers to make sure they are teaching to the proper level on these topics. 4. The topics themselves should be open to public debate and vote. Schools can then differentiate themselves by their elective classes. I have not looked into what topics are in "common core" I would support a common core... having a common core set of classes only makes sense... I do not however know if I support this "common core". My default is no... as with anything government related... but again I have not looked into it. |
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I have a son in the fifth grade and I can say firmly that I do not like it, nor do I think it is in any way, shape or form is it an improvement. Example of a homework question that I helped him with and ended up in an argument with his Mom. Calculate a rounded averaged cost; " A refrigerator cost roughly $57 per year in electricity to operate. How much would it cost to operate the refrigerator for 15 year?" Now I said the answer would be to round $57 to $60 and multiply that by 15 years...Right? No that was the wrong fucking answer they are teaching that you round up $57 to 60 and round up 15 years to 20 years
WTF?? That is just one example and I can go on with more. Mostly I get all the math questions request for help and his Mom gets all the other ones so my sample is limited. no way that is being taught. Please, I have seen it all regarding how ridiculous things are today (like the beat off that posted about grammar due to the abbreviation Govt). 
Con Sol, you should have saved that math problem and had it laminated so when historians find it in the future they take pity on our poor souls and realize what we had to put up with from our Govt. |
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Quoted: show me a 3rd world country that spends the amount of money we pour into public education? per child, per administrator? show me a 3rd world country that produces the shear number or college grads we do? Quoted: Quoted: We're like 68th in the world for education, there are third-world countries higher on the list than us. We have to do something, the current system obviously isn't working. Also, no offense man, but your grammar sucks. It's really hard for me to take a thread about education standards seriously when you can't even type "government" and put punctuation wherever your feel like. Maybe a lack of education or knowledge (ignorance) has something to do with your views? show me a 3rd world country that spends the amount of money we pour into public education? per child, per administrator? show me a 3rd world country that produces the shear number or college grads we do? |
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I'm a substitute teacher by trade...... we've LOST IT........seriously..after subbing in dozens of school districts from California to Oregon, I can't find a decent 12th grader that can read, write, or even spell correctly. Not to mention hand writing.... all a lost art. Jozsi, I wish I could take your post seriously, but you didn't capitalize the A in All.
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CCW, I kind of want philosophy of math to be taught in addition to just the math. A video on Common Core was posted on Youtube where the Common Core Teacher advocates that a wrong answer is OK as long as the path to the wrong answer can be explained. That is such a joke but yet in our new upside down America, it now makes sense. I helped my daughter with multiplication by showing her what I guess you would call philosophy. What does multiplication mean in the real world? We needed to buy paving stones for our front yard. How many do we need? Do we just guess or go buy whatever? No, we can use a tape measure and basic multiplication and come up with square footage so we know exactly how many 12" x 12" stones to buy. Obviously going over the times table so answers become instant has to be done too. And math has to be taught that there is a right and wrong answer. No humanist approach about that. Word problems...Here the problem is we have seniors now with 3rd grade reading comprehension skills. They just cannot fathom your Paver word problem and turn it into math. So, they not only bomb in reading, but practical math skills as well. Back in the day there was this young man who was into race cars and auto mechanics and such. The math teacher pulled her hair out trying to get Johnny to grasp the importance of learning math, when she finally asked Johnny how he determined the displacement of the engine he was working on. You could almost see the lightbulb switch on in Johnny's head. His math class grades and attendance record soared thereafter. |
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Many of us here, especially in Long Island are not happy about it. We think its too soon and too difficult. huh? difficult? the whole point of common core was to lower all standards to the lowest common idiot in the class. this is because parents don't take an active role in their children's education anymore. when kids fail, they automatically blame the teacher, the school, the system and everything else under the sun instead of taking responsibility for their kids' laziness. personally i blame the internet, but thats another discussion. the problem that arises is the fact that instead of kids being pushed to keep up with the best and brightest in the world, the best and brightest are being told to slow down for the mediocre and dull. common core assumes everyone can be taught at the same level and same speed. such is not the case in reality. some kids don't test well, but are still incredibly smart. some kids are really smart, but have no incentive to put their intelligence to use. some have no intelligence and don't care to acquire any becasue they know the are future members of the FSA anyway...its sad really. |
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Quoted: I am from the 20th century, but really now, let's get serious. Has anyone plumbed the depths of "Common Core" curriculum and consider it a solution to our "federal education problem"? Someone has apparently decided that we should demand our children be taught the "philosophy of math" rather than "math". In the 20th century we learned multiplication by flash cards, multiplication tables, recitation, methodology. See how it is done in "common core". Do many, if any, of the 68 countries ahead of us in education use "common core" curriculum? No, I did not think so. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: We're like 68th in the world for education, there are third-world countries higher on the list than us. We have to do something, the current system obviously isn't working. Also, no offense man, but your grammar sucks. It's really hard for me to take a thread about education standards seriously when you can't even type "government" and put punctuation wherever your feel like. Maybe a lack of education or knowledge (ignorance) has something to do with your views? I am from the 20th century, but really now, let's get serious. Has anyone plumbed the depths of "Common Core" curriculum and consider it a solution to our "federal education problem"? Someone has apparently decided that we should demand our children be taught the "philosophy of math" rather than "math". In the 20th century we learned multiplication by flash cards, multiplication tables, recitation, methodology. See how it is done in "common core". Do many, if any, of the 68 countries ahead of us in education use "common core" curriculum? No, I did not think so. |
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it's supported by jeb bush, huckabee, others... it's being pushed hard as something conservatives like and support it is backed by the gates foundation - and guess who is writting the software to implement and monitor the standardization? it's teaching to the lowest common denominator. and look at the pushback at critics of common core As an outspoken critic of the federal academic standards scheme known as Common Core, I'd like to offer some friendly advice to opponents. Stop insulting. Stop digging. Stop projecting. Start listening. Central planners in Washington have been caught off-guard by the grassroots revolt against the national standards/testing/curriculum juggernaut. Real input from the hoi polloi was never a part of the grand implementation process. So when parents and educators in dozens of states started challenging the privacy intrusions posed by and the constitutionality, cost, quality and validity of Common Core, its architects went on the attack. And now, the education control freaks are freaking out. Former GOP Florida Gov. Jeb Bush accused moms and dads who've vigilantly fought dumbed-down curricula firsthand of foisting "mediocrity" on their own kids. Bush, Mike Huckabee, Chamber of Commerce types and Gates Foundation promoters routinely have insulted Glenn Beck and his listeners as conspiracy-mongers for raising red flags about Common Core's data-mining agenda. ........ |
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Quoted: no way that is being taught. Please, I have seen it all regarding how ridiculous things are today (like the beat off that posted about grammar due to the abbreviation Govt). Con Sol, you should have saved that math problem and had it laminated so when historians find it in the future they take pity on our poor souls and realize what we had to put up with from our Govt. Quoted: Quoted: I have a son in the fifth grade and I can say firmly that I do not like it, nor do I think it is in any way, shape or form is it an improvement. Example of a homework question that I helped him with and ended up in an argument with his Mom. Calculate a rounded averaged cost; " A refrigerator cost roughly $57 per year in electricity to operate. How much would it cost to operate the refrigerator for 15 year?" Now I said the answer would be to round $57 to $60 and multiply that by 15 years...Right? No that was the wrong fucking answer they are teaching that you round up $57 to 60 and round up 15 years to 20 years WTF?? That is just one example and I can go on with more. Mostly I get all the math questions request for help and his Mom gets all the other ones so my sample is limited. no way that is being taught. Please, I have seen it all regarding how ridiculous things are today (like the beat off that posted about grammar due to the abbreviation Govt). Con Sol, you should have saved that math problem and had it laminated so when historians find it in the future they take pity on our poor souls and realize what we had to put up with from our Govt. It seems the problem is not with the topic... but what is the problem with all public schools... the method of teaching the topic. All the common standards in the world aren't going to do anything if they can't fire bad teachers. ... and you don't round anything until after calculation... |
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pretty petty. this is the internet, not english literature and languages arts at the HS level. are you a parent? because he is asking a very valid question. PHUCK COMMON CORE! see what i did there? hooked on FONICS! yea! but seriously, its a disaster. my son just started pre-k and now that im starting to pay attention to what is covered in the school curriculum. common core shoulda been renamed "communist indoctrination." have you seen some of the crazy shit they're trying to teach our kids? private school for my lil Pete! Quoted:
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We're like 68th in the world for education, there are third-world countries higher on the list than us. We have to do something, the current system obviously isn't working. Also, no offense man, but your grammar sucks. It's really hard for me to take a thread about education standards seriously when you can't even type "government" and put punctuation wherever your feel like. Maybe a lack of education or knowledge (ignorance) has something to do with your views? pretty petty. this is the internet, not english literature and languages arts at the HS level. are you a parent? because he is asking a very valid question. PHUCK COMMON CORE! see what i did there? hooked on FONICS! yea! but seriously, its a disaster. my son just started pre-k and now that im starting to pay attention to what is covered in the school curriculum. common core shoulda been renamed "communist indoctrination." have you seen some of the crazy shit they're trying to teach our kids? private school for my lil Pete! BabyGlock, we need to see examples of this and get it posted. I just called my State Rep, and my Congressman re: Common Core. Right now from my brief study on this subject is that the bureaucrats attack anyone who questions them on Common Core and accuses them of being hysterical and uninformed. The poster that included the picture of the text summarizing the 2nd Amendment is a great example. I hope that over the next few months parents here on ARF keep posting this dangerous drivel. |
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The only way to make this better is to bring the free market back into it. People pay taxes for schools. There is no way to get out of paying taxes for schools if the schools suck and you send your kids to private schools. A voucher system, that would allow you to put that tax revenue towards whatever school you want, would be vastly superior. It would make private/charter schools more viable, and would incentivize bad public schools to get their shit together. Everyone wins except for the bloated public teaching bureaucracy and lazy, incompetent teachers. ETA: There is a reason why parents who have the means will spend tons of money sending their children to private school. There is also a reason why so many talented faculty and students set their sights on America for working at and attending US colleges. This needs to be critically addressed. I can't tell you how many times I have seen foreign students from well disciplined cultures with good public education systems out perform intelligent but less educated and disciplined American students. Hell, I didn't really start to competitively measure up until last year. |
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Quoted: I thought it was Murphy? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: We're like 68th in the world for education, there are third-world countries higher on the list than us. We have to do something, the current system obviously isn't working. Also, no offense man, but your grammar sucks. It's really hard for me to take a thread about education standards seriously when you can't even type "government" and put punctuation wherever your feel like. Maybe a lack of education or knowledge (ignorance) has something to do with your views? |
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You could have at least picked one of the many examples where the textbook is factually inaccurate. Quoted:
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New textbook for common core. yeah, looks great. sign my kid's up! http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/1370293_10202247824983885_942542718_n.jpg You could have at least picked one of the many examples where the textbook is factually inaccurate. Really, what 2nd amendment do you live under? TXL |