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Posted: 6/17/2014 6:36:03 PM EDT
Today, Cleveland mayor Frank Jackson announced his ideas to combat gun violence. He wants to ignore state law that prohibits cities from adopting laws that are more strict than those passed by the state legislature. IIRC they tried this already and were smacked down by the Ohio Supreme Court. This dummy wants to try again. Among his brilliant ideas:


"... restricting gun owners from leaving firearms in a place accessible to minors; and limiting gun purchases to one firearm per person per 90 days." (excerpt from the Plain Dealer story)

Too bad Frank, those are prohibited by the Ohio Revised Code:



9.68 Right to bear arms - challenge to law.



(A) The individual right to keep and bear arms, being a fundamental individual right that predates the United States Constitution and Ohio Constitution, and being a constitutionally protected right in every part of Ohio, the general assembly finds the need to provide uniform laws throughout the state regulating the ownership, possession, purchase, other acquisition, transport, storage, carrying, sale, or other transfer of firearms, their components, and their ammunition. Except as specifically provided by the United States Constitution, Ohio Constitution, state law, or federal law, a person, without further license, permission, restriction, delay, or process, may own, possess, purchase, sell, transfer, transport, store, or keep any firearm, part of a firearm, its components, and its ammunition.


Fuck Frank Jackson,

and fuck the Plain Dealer for good measure




Link Posted: 6/17/2014 6:37:01 PM EDT
Fuck that guy.
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 6:37:27 PM EDT
Hope they sue the fuck out of him. Or arrest him.
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 6:40:20 PM EDT
What could a "1 gun per 90 days" city ordinance possibly accomplish? Anyone could just drive to a FFL in the next town and buy whatever they wanted anyway. A smart FFL would setup shop right over the city border
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 6:41:55 PM EDT
The state AG should arrest him personally if he tries.
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 6:42:11 PM EDT
Fuck these anti-firearm gun-grabbing pieces of dog shit!!!
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 6:42:13 PM EDT
We're up to 90 days now?
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 6:42:17 PM EDT
The state legislature needs to slap his ass down.
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 6:44:52 PM EDT
Sounds like a Bloomberg wannabe
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 6:45:26 PM EDT
Looks like OFCC is going to gear up again.

Link Posted: 6/17/2014 6:46:15 PM EDT
Ignore state law? How about federal law?
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 6:47:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By edman99:
The state legislature needs to slap his ass down.
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The state Supreme Court ruled on this in 2010 and told Cleveland to get fucked:

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2010/12/ohio_supremes_uphold_state_law.html

Frank Jackson is supposedly a lawyer, too
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 6:49:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mak0:
What could a "1 gun per 90 days" city ordinance possibly accomplish? Anyone could just drive to a FFL in the next town and buy whatever they wanted anyway. A smart FFL would setup shop right over the city border
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That's where all the shops are anyways, in the burbs. I can't think of one gun shop this is in the actual city of Cleveland.
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 6:56:26 PM EDT
What personal repercussions will he get from trying this? Most likely nothing except more fans on the far left. When people start going to jail for their attacks on the Constitution, we might start getting places.
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 7:01:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DrewDaHilp1:
Fuck that guy.
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FPNI.

Fuck that guy.

Link Posted: 6/17/2014 7:03:43 PM EDT
This kind of stuff needs to result in the Criminal prosecution of politicians. They are violating the law by passing these laws and they need to be prosecuted.
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 7:03:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kilroytheknifesnob:

What personal repercussions will he get from trying this? Most likely nothing except more fans on the far left. When people start going to jail for their attacks on the Constitution, we might start getting places.
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No idea... the city of Cleveland has a 0% chance of going Republican, so it's not like he has to increase his appeal to likely voters. And he isn't a publicity hog like some mayors, he likes to stay out of the spotlight. I suspect he's just really dumb.
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 7:05:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ohio_Bill:

No idea... the city of Cleveland has a 0% chance of going Republican, so it's not like he has to increase his appeal to likely voters. And he isn't a publicity hog like some mayors, he likes to stay out of the spotlight. I suspect he's just really dumb.
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Originally Posted By Ohio_Bill:
Originally Posted By Kilroytheknifesnob:

What personal repercussions will he get from trying this? Most likely nothing except more fans on the far left. When people start going to jail for their attacks on the Constitution, we might start getting places.

No idea... the city of Cleveland has a 0% chance of going Republican, so it's not like he has to increase his appeal to likely voters. And he isn't a publicity hog like some mayors, he likes to stay out of the spotlight. I suspect he's just really dumb.


He is.
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 7:07:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kilroytheknifesnob:
What personal repercussions will he get from trying this? Most likely nothing except more fans on the far left. When people start going to jail for their attacks on the Constitution, we might start getting places.
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I'd settle for making him reimburse taxpayers - out of his own pocket - for money the city spent defending legal challenges to this stupidity.

You want to pander to left-wing loonies by passing illegal laws, Mr. Mayor?

Fine - have at it - But do it on your own dime.
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 7:14:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mak0:
What could a "1 gun per 90 days" city ordinance possibly accomplish? Anyone could just drive to a FFL in the next town and buy whatever they wanted anyway. A smart FFL would setup shop right over the city border
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He might be getting $$$ from Bloomberg for trying, even if it fails. Ohio is a good swing state to try to get the anti gun hooks into. If it works, it's a stepping stone like it was in Jersey City. If not, it was still a good test of the current climate.
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 7:18:00 PM EDT
Florida has occupied the entire realm of firearms regulation for years, but it wasn't until the law was modified to hold the local politicians personally responsible that the bullshit stopped.
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 7:26:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By millfire517:
Hope they sue the fuck out of him. Or arrest him.
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Arrest him.

USC title 18. Sec 242. Deprivation of Civil Rights under color of Law.
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 7:27:28 PM EDT
if you think the mayor is bad you should look at some of the senators
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 8:05:55 PM EDT
Let's waste more tax payer money on worthless cases.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 9:12:57 AM EDT
I heard the "Safety Director" on the radio this morning. He claimed that local restrictions are a "grey area" and he wants the city council to start over with new local laws.

It's NOT a grey area dumbass, the state law is perfectly clear that local restrictions are forbidden. You guys lost in the state supreme court, remember? I guess Cleveland has plenty of money to waste on another Quixotic endeavor
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 9:29:44 AM EDT
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